AAP for Westgate ES?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Hummmmmm.....Lemon Road is the new AAP Center, but with the establishment of Local Level IV at Westgate and Shrevewood - will there be a critical mass? Doubt it - sounds like the start of the end of the Center program - you should speak up now if you want to maintain Centers....the kids that suffer at the ones in weak local schools - they will miss their opportunity - is that fair and equitable?


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I think there will not be enough kids for a Level IV AAP Center at Lemon Road
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:AAP will follow the elementary school if it's a split feeder.


This is incorrect. Westgate kids who want to go to an AAP center will go to Lemon Road in the future, not Haycock, regardless of whether they are zoned for Kilmer/Marshall or Longfellow/McLean.

If they add Local Level IV at Westgate, that's a different question.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hummmmmm.....Lemon Road is the new AAP Center, but with the establishment of Local Level IV at Westgate and Shrevewood - will there be a critical mass? Doubt it - sounds like the start of the end of the Center program - you should speak up now if you want to maintain Centers....the kids that suffer at the ones in weak local schools - they will miss their opportunity - is that fair and equitable?


+1

I think there will not be enough kids for a Level IV AAP Center at Lemon Road


Agree. Now that they've kicked the Cluster 2 kids out of Haycock, there is no concern with making sure they get something similar to what they were getting before. It's almost as if they are trying to doom the Lemon Road center before it opens. If half of the kids choose LLIV, there will only be about 1 class per grade at the center. How is that a center?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hummmmmm.....Lemon Road is the new AAP Center, but with the establishment of Local Level IV at Westgate and Shrevewood - will there be a critical mass? Doubt it - sounds like the start of the end of the Center program - you should speak up now if you want to maintain Centers....the kids that suffer at the ones in weak local schools - they will miss their opportunity - is that fair and equitable?


+1

I think there will not be enough kids for a Level IV AAP Center at Lemon Road


Agree. Now that they've kicked the Cluster 2 kids out of Haycock, there is no concern with making sure they get something similar to what they were getting before. It's almost as if they are trying to doom the Lemon Road center before it opens. If half of the kids choose LLIV, there will only be about 1 class per grade at the center. How is that a center?


God - do the Cluster 2 people ever stop complaining? Sheesh.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hummmmmm.....Lemon Road is the new AAP Center, but with the establishment of Local Level IV at Westgate and Shrevewood - will there be a critical mass? Doubt it - sounds like the start of the end of the Center program - you should speak up now if you want to maintain Centers....the kids that suffer at the ones in weak local schools - they will miss their opportunity - is that fair and equitable?


+1

I think there will not be enough kids for a Level IV AAP Center at Lemon Road


Agree. Now that they've kicked the Cluster 2 kids out of Haycock, there is no concern with making sure they get something similar to what they were getting before. It's almost as if they are trying to doom the Lemon Road center before it opens. If half of the kids choose LLIV, there will only be about 1 class per grade at the center. How is that a center?

Please attend the upcoming meeting at Lemon Road with current families and new incoming AAP families. Families and Admin need to work together to make the program strong. Negativity is not going to accomplish a thing.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Hummmmmm.....Lemon Road is the new AAP Center, but with the establishment of Local Level IV at Westgate and Shrevewood - will there be a critical mass? Doubt it - sounds like the start of the end of the Center program - you should speak up now if you want to maintain Centers....the kids that suffer at the ones in weak local schools - they will miss their opportunity - is that fair and equitable?


+1

I think there will not be enough kids for a Level IV AAP Center at Lemon Road


Agree. Now that they've kicked the Cluster 2 kids out of Haycock, there is no concern with making sure they get something similar to what they were getting before. It's almost as if they are trying to doom the Lemon Road center before it opens. If half of the kids choose LLIV, there will only be about 1 class per grade at the center. How is that a center?


God - do the Cluster 2 people ever stop complaining? Sheesh.


Let me guess what school you are from. Our kids are out of your school in a couple months, could you please just be nice until then? We're just trying to get them something roughly equivalent to what they had before. One classroom of kids will not be the same as a huge center. It just can't be. IMO, they should have had Shrevewood and Westgate hold off on starting Local Level IV until the Lemon Road center was up and running (1-2 years). They needed to give it a fair chance to work.

I will go to the meeting and am trying to be positive. I think you can't just sit around and wait to see what the district is going to do, though, when the predictive signs are not in your favor.

I am really excited about the Lemon Road community because I've hard really good things about it and the parents I've met so far seem really great. My concern is that with local level IV, the center will not be large enough to be a good center. If you look around, the "good" centers seem to be the larger ones. The smaller centers seem to flounder. It's nothing negative about Lemon Road as a school. I just think FCPS is setting the center up for failure and I really don't want to see that happen. I wouldn't think the other Lemon Road families would want that either. The Lemon Road community seems happy to have a center, so I can only assume they want it to be a good one, not just a center in name only.
Anonymous
PP, why would the needs of your child trump that of the families who would like to stay at their base school? If they stay at the base school, it is because critical mass isn't as important to them as the convenience of staying at their base school. For many people, they have other priorities in their lives other than AAP.
Anonymous
Seriously? Westgate and Shrevewood families were begging to stay at Haycock. Lemon Road is like less than 1 mile from Westgate and a lot less crowded. You're dooming your own AAP program if you don't collaborate together.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:PP, why would the needs of your child trump that of the families who would like to stay at their base school? If they stay at the base school, it is because critical mass isn't as important to them as the convenience of staying at their base school. For many people, they have other priorities in their lives other than AAP.


The problem is that having both Local Level IV and a successful new center is not feasible with the small number of students. The school board has made the policy choice to have a center at Lemon Road and they have told us that our children will have a center with critical mass. Staff has now undermined (intentionally or not -- I'm not a conspiracy theorist) the school board's policy decision by instituting local level IV, which will most likely siphon off enough children so that the center won't have critical mass. Kids in level IV are given a choice between a center and local level IV if it's available, but they always have a center option. Our children will not have a true center option because the center will not meet the minimum standards that the school board has set (i.e. critical mass).

I guess they could move some more families over from Haycock to fill the space. . . .
Anonymous
PP here. Before the Haycock families get all fired up, my comment about moving kids over to Lemon Road was a joke.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

The problem is that having both Local Level IV and a successful new center is not feasible with the small number of students. The school board has made the policy choice to have a center at Lemon Road and they have told us that our children will have a center with critical mass. Staff has now undermined (intentionally or not -- I'm not a conspiracy theorist) the school board's policy decision by instituting local level IV, which will most likely siphon off enough children so that the center won't have critical mass. Kids in level IV are given a choice between a center and local level IV if it's available, but they always have a center option. Our children will not have a true center option because the center will not meet the minimum standards that the school board has set (i.e. critical mass).

I guess they could move some more families over from Haycock to fill the space. . . .


You do like the phrase "critical mass," don't you? Do you ever stop to think about what implies?

Zero sympathy here for your terrible predicament.





Anonymous
I'm not sure I get where you are going, pp. Critical mass is a term FCPS uses. What exactly do you think it implies?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Hummmmmm.....Lemon Road is the new AAP Center, but with the establishment of Local Level IV at Westgate and Shrevewood - will there be a critical mass? Doubt it - sounds like the start of the end of the Center program - you should speak up now if you want to maintain Centers....the kids that suffer at the ones in weak local schools - they will miss their opportunity - is that fair and equitable?


+1

I think there will not be enough kids for a Level IV AAP Center at Lemon Road


Agree. Now that they've kicked the Cluster 2 kids out of Haycock, there is no concern with making sure they get something similar to what they were getting before. It's almost as if they are trying to doom the Lemon Road center before it opens. If half of the kids choose LLIV, there will only be about 1 class per grade at the center. How is that a center?


God - do the Cluster 2 people ever stop complaining? Sheesh.


Let me guess what school you are from. Our kids are out of your school in a couple months, could you please just be nice until then? We're just trying to get them something roughly equivalent to what they had before. One classroom of kids will not be the same as a huge center. It just can't be. IMO, they should have had Shrevewood and Westgate hold off on starting Local Level IV until the Lemon Road center was up and running (1-2 years). They needed to give it a fair chance to work.

I will go to the meeting and am trying to be positive. I think you can't just sit around and wait to see what the district is going to do, though, when the predictive signs are not in your favor.

I am really excited about the Lemon Road community because I've hard really good things about it and the parents I've met so far seem really great. My concern is that with local level IV, the center will not be large enough to be a good center. If you look around, the "good" centers seem to be the larger ones. The smaller centers seem to flounder. It's nothing negative about Lemon Road as a school. I just think FCPS is setting the center up for failure and I really don't want to see that happen. I wouldn't think the other Lemon Road families would want that either. The Lemon Road community seems happy to have a center, so I can only assume they want it to be a good one, not just a center in name only.


Please remember there are many Lemon Road families that read these posts. It is a change for our school and kids as well. Please don't accuse other Posters of things when you don't know who they are.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:PP, why would the needs of your child trump that of the families who would like to stay at their base school? If they stay at the base school, it is because critical mass isn't as important to them as the convenience of staying at their base school. For many people, they have other priorities in their lives other than AAP.


The problem is that having both Local Level IV and a successful new center is not feasible with the small number of students. The school board has made the policy choice to have a center at Lemon Road and they have told us that our children will have a center with critical mass. Staff has now undermined (intentionally or not -- I'm not a conspiracy theorist) the school board's policy decision by instituting local level IV, which will most likely siphon off enough children so that the center won't have critical mass. Kids in level IV are given a choice between a center and local level IV if it's available, but they always have a center option. Our children will not have a true center option because the center will not meet the minimum standards that the school board has set (i.e. critical mass).

I guess they could move some more families over from Haycock to fill the space. . . .


I thought it was the school boards end all intention to have a local level IV in ALL elementary schools(eventually) thus ending AAP(as a name). Is that not what their end all be all goal is???
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Anonymous wrote:Hummmmmm.....Lemon Road is the new AAP Center, but with the establishment of Local Level IV at Westgate and Shrevewood - will there be a critical mass? Doubt it - sounds like the start of the end of the Center program - you should speak up now if you want to maintain Centers....the kids that suffer at the ones in weak local schools - they will miss their opportunity - is that fair and equitable?


+1

I think there will not be enough kids for a Level IV AAP Center at Lemon Road


Agree. Now that they've kicked the Cluster 2 kids out of Haycock, there is no concern with making sure they get something similar to what they were getting before. It's almost as if they are trying to doom the Lemon Road center before it opens. If half of the kids choose LLIV, there will only be about 1 class per grade at the center. How is that a center?


God - do the Cluster 2 people ever stop coymplaining? Sheesh.


Let me guess what school you are from. Our kids are out of your school in a couple months, could you please just be nice until then? We're just trying to get them something roughly equivalent to what they had before. One classroom of kids will not be the same as a huge center. It just can't be. IMO, they should have had Shrevewood and Westgate hold off on starting Local Level IV until the Lemon Road center was up and running (1-2 years). They needed to give it a fair chance to work.

I will go to the meeting and am trying to be positive. I think you can't just sit around and wait to see what the district is going to do, though, when the predictive signs are not in your favor.

I am really excited about the Lemon Road community because I've hard really good things about it and the parents I've met so far seem really great. My concern is that with local level IV, the center will not be large enough to be a good center. If you look around, the "good" centers seem to be the larger ones. The smaller centers seem to flounder. It's nothing negative about Lemon Road as a school. I just think FCPS is setting the center up for failure and I really don't want to see that happen. I wouldn't think the other Lemon Road families would want that either. The Lemon Road community seems happy to have a center, so I can only assume they want it to be a good one, not just a center in name only.


Please remember there are many Lemon Road families that read these posts. It is a change for our school and kids as well. Please don't accuse other Posters of things when you don't know who they are.


I would be surprised if the poster complaining about "cluster 2" parents was from Lemon Road because Lemon Road is also in cluster 2.
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