S/O How Will Romney/Ryan Improve Economy, Debt, Jobs..etc

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the OP that asked this question before. Thanks for trying again! Still can't get anyone to give us anything substantial, can we?

If they can't tell us what they expect from R/R OR tell us how all these things were better under Bush, maybe they can tell us what is so bad about Obama?

Come on, people! What policies are you so upset about? And WHY are you upset about hose policies?

there are several active Obama/Romney threads right now, and I have yet to see anyone give a real reason to dislike Obama. It's pretty disturbing.

Here is how Obama has affected my family and me.

Obamacare (screws medical sales companies)
Obama's threat to raise taxes on people and small business making over 250k a year.
Obama vilifying anyone that makes over 250k a year and proclaiming that taxes are for the good of all where as our donations to charities and churches are less important.

Yes the bush years were much better for our family. The promise of lower taxes and the fact that happened as well as better housing values. Granted those things are not under Obama's control, yes things were better under the Bush years. You asked right?

I am busy working so the above is a few things of a long list but I don't have time to write them all.

As you say give a real reason I have given more than 1 "real reason".

Thanks for playing!

are you the one who posted about medical sales yesterday? If so, sorry I'm repeating myself. the medical sales industry will do just fine with Obamacare! Yes, there will be a 2.3% tax excise tax. But this will be more than balanced by the fact that you are gaining millions of potential customers. Even if this did hurt your field, is that really a valid reason to deny healthcare to millions? You will actually be very fortunate to be in the medical sales field once Obamacare is going full force. Congrats!

Obama wants the 1% to pay their fair share. Do you think it's fair for the poor and middle class to pay a higher percentage in income taxes than the wealthy?

what do you mean when you say "businesses making over $250,000?" Do you have an understanding of how tax brackets work? Marginal tax rates? the difference between revenue and profit? First of all, the higher tax rate will only apply to the income earned above $250,000. So, if the income is $250,020, the increase will only apply to $20 of the income. So one would need to make a lot of money to see a significant hit from the increase. Also, the business owner is only taxed on their take home pay. So, the owner will not pay taxes on money that goes to payroll or is put back into the business. Only the owner's take home pay. A very small percentage of business owners make more than $250K. I believe only 3% of small business owners will be affected. Remember, they do not pay the higher rate on the first $250K that they take home. Obama has done a lot to benefit small business owners. Trying to do even more but can't get it through the House...

yes to all 3 and you can guess what my hhi and business income is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the OP that asked this question before. Thanks for trying again! Still can't get anyone to give us anything substantial, can we?

If they can't tell us what they expect from R/R OR tell us how all these things were better under Bush, maybe they can tell us what is so bad about Obama?

Come on, people! What policies are you so upset about? And WHY are you upset about hose policies?

there are several active Obama/Romney threads right now, and I have yet to see anyone give a real reason to dislike Obama. It's pretty disturbing.

Here is how Obama has affected my family and me.

Obamacare (screws medical sales companies)
Obama's threat to raise taxes on people and small business making over 250k a year.
Obama vilifying anyone that makes over 250k a year and proclaiming that taxes are for the good of all where as our donations to charities and churches are less important.

Yes the bush years were much better for our family. The promise of lower taxes and the fact that happened as well as better housing values. Granted those things are not under Obama's control, yes things were better under the Bush years. You asked right?

I am busy working so the above is a few things of a long list but I don't have time to write them all.

As you say give a real reason I have given more than 1 "real reason".

Thanks for playing!

are you the one who posted about medical sales yesterday? If so, sorry I'm repeating myself. the medical sales industry will do just fine with Obamacare! Yes, there will be a 2.3% tax excise tax. But this will be more than balanced by the fact that you are gaining millions of potential customers. Even if this did hurt your field, is that really a valid reason to deny healthcare to millions? You will actually be very fortunate to be in the medical sales field once Obamacare is going full force. Congrats!

Obama wants the 1% to pay their fair share. Do you think it's fair for the poor and middle class to pay a higher percentage in income taxes than the wealthy?

what do you mean when you say "businesses making over $250,000?" Do you have an understanding of how tax brackets work? Marginal tax rates? the difference between revenue and profit? First of all, the higher tax rate will only apply to the income earned above $250,000. So, if the income is $250,020, the increase will only apply to $20 of the income. So one would need to make a lot of money to see a significant hit from the increase. Also, the business owner is only taxed on their take home pay. So, the owner will not pay taxes on money that goes to payroll or is put back into the business. Only the owner's take home pay. A very small percentage of business owners make more than $250K. I believe only 3% of small business owners will be affected. Remember, they do not pay the higher rate on the first $250K that they take home. Obama has done a lot to benefit small business owners. Trying to do even more but can't get it through the House...

Where do suppose that all of these new customers will be coming from? Are you at all familiar with the term premium support? No one opposes the social safety net, but spare me the soaring hope that shifting even more wealth to the unearned is good for our economy.

I don't expect I've convinced you of everything, after all supporters of R/R can and do site numerous reasons, yet you genius keep saying whitty things like " no one can say anything against Obama".

Small business abhor this administration, the very few that do, like oooh Georgetown Cupcake are considered outliers. It's a simple fact. And you need to research S-corps a little more.

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Crickets

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Agreed with 720, no business owner wants obama

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed with 720, no business owner wants obama

I do.

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Thanks medical sales guy, you're actually citing reasons why you think your -- and the nation's -- overall health.

It also starts with your beginning assumption that some people are just no good, and no amount of government spending (outside of maybe prisons) is going to change that.

I'm just hoping you're not like Joe the Plumber and get gross and net income confused, or are unclear on the idea of marginal tax rates -- from your replies it seems you're not.

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed with 720, no business owner wants obama

I do.

Crack and meth sales don't count

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So, reading all these posts, here's the message I'm getting from republicans:

I'm in the 1% or I believe that I will somehow rise to the 1% the moment Romney is inaugurated. i don't care if R/R raise taxes on 80% of the country. They won't raise my taxes. I wish to continue paying a lower percentage of income tax than those who earn less while still participating in gov't programs. I enjoy all the perks that gov't agencies provide (such as cleaner air and water) but think those agencies should be eliminated anyway. I like to use public transit, roads/highways, etc., but I want other tax payers to pay for them. Not me.

I have no respect for those who are not high earners and think they are all lazy. I don't realize that many of those lowly people have an education equal or superior to mine. They simply chose a career field they cared deeply about even though they knew it would never make them rich (nurses, employees for non-profit, etc.). I also don't realize that others are smarter and work harder than me, but higher education was impossible for them, so they have worked harder than I ever will just to make ends meet.

I am in the medical sales field. I would rather have millions of people go uninsured than for me to endure a small excise tax and fill out a form every now and then. I clearly have not thought this through, and don't realize that my potential customer base will grow more than I could have ever imagined when I entered this field. I am so focused on "how does this affect me right now" that I do not see the many ways this will benefit my family. maybe I will get it someday if, God forbid, someone in my family is diagnosed and ins. companies are not allowed to deny us coverage. Or when my children grow up and won't have to worry about how to obtain coverage as they are trying to find their way in this world. Or when my aging parent are not denied the care that they need. Or when I realize that my ins. premiums will no longer cover the ER visits of uninsured people who could afford coverage.

I don't understand tax brackets and marginal tax rates so I think that small businesses will endure a hefty tax on every dime they receive from their customers and it will destroy their business. I need to study this and figure out that the tax increase will only apply to the portion of the business owners take home income that exceeds $250K. take home pay is whatever the owner is left with after payroll and the $ that is put back into the business.

I am selfish and have no business living in a governed country. I don't even understand government or what it means to live in a democracy. I should take my billions of dollars and buy an island where everything can be about me.

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Without the House and Senate, how much of this could Romney even accomplish if he did become President? My guess is there would be a stalemate for the next 4 years and nothing would get done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is how Obama has affected my family and me.

Obamacare (screws medical sales companies)
Obama's threat to raise taxes on people and small business making over 250k a year.
Obama vilifying anyone that makes over 250k a year and proclaiming that taxes are for the good of all where as our donations to charities and churches are less important.

And you think ending Medicaid and decimating Medicare will help your medical sales company??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is how Obama has affected my family and me.

Obamacare (screws medical sales companies)
Obama's threat to raise taxes on people and small business making over 250k a year.
Obama vilifying anyone that makes over 250k a year and proclaiming that taxes are for the good of all where as our donations to charities and churches are less important.

And you think ending Medicaid and decimating Medicare will help your medical sales company??

further evidence that republicans habitually vote against their own best interest...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agreed with 720, no business owner wants obama

I do.

Crack and meth sales don't count

For a bunch of people who are supposed to b entrepreneurial and self sufficient, you sure act like a bunch of whiny little bitches.

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Anonymous wrote:Ryan said the country needs a turnaround. Romney is a turnaround specialist. That's what they do at Bain. Stop asking so many questions and just have blind faith in your leaders and hope it doesn't get you killed (with apologies to Bruce Springsteen).

Oh, so Romney is going to do a leveraged buyout of the United States? Great! Can't wait.

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Romney, US
is an acronym for
Money R Us

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Obamacare (screws medical sales companies)
Obama's threat to raise taxes on people and small business making over 250k a year.
Obama vilifying anyone that makes over 250k a year and proclaiming that taxes are for the good of all where as our donations to charities and churches are less important.

Yes the bush years were much better for our family. The promise of lower taxes and the fact that happened as well as better housing values. Granted those things are not under Obama's control, yes things were better under the Bush years. You asked right?

I am busy working so the above is a few things of a long list but I don't have time to write them all.

As you say give a real reason I have given more than 1 "real reason".

Translation. I don't give a sh*t about anything other than my tax rate and I have confidence that if Romney is elected, there is no way I'll end up paying more taxes.

-- Signed,

A Democrat that makes $500k / year