S/O How Will Romney/Ryan Improve Economy, Debt, Jobs..etc

[Anonymous]

ok, I'll take a stab at this.

i'm undecided, wholly around social issues and fear of rewarding bad behavior with the white house. but i read a lot of remarks by corp ceo's and they are frozen with uncertainty right now, thus are reluctant to hire.

i believe obama took on the wrong issue out of the box with health care and he and the economy has paid a price since. most of the stimulus money went to transfer payments and bailing out states instead of bricks and mortar--in my view a flawed decision.

dodd-frank is a full employment project for banking lawyers--jamie dimon asked a simple question: did anyone add up the cumulative impact of all the new regs? i think he got back a blank stare. i think there was little focus on the unintended consequences of a new massively complex bill. but i really think dems who want more stimulus spending don't have the background to understand the sand-in-the-gears impact of these and other new regs.

Keystone--should have been an easy call. it sends a terrible message and has much broader impact beyond one pipeline.

my bottom line--over the past decade there have been zero net private jobs in this country..any growth has been wholly in the public sector. there is, i think by now, an appreciation that public sector will not grow, so we must have private sector job growth. i fear that will not happen, or will not happen at a brisk pace, under a 2nd obama term.

now please don't go parsing speeches and ask me to cite "so where exactly does he trash big biz." i'm just saying the cumulative effect of 4 years of this administration is that they don't get how to set the table (and then get out of the way) for robust private sector job creation.

and, fundamentally, i think they don't understand govt's inability to do much here except harm. Was there a master fed policy to encourage growth in social media employment? Natural gas production?

but it's my bias--i think a govt should collect the revenue it needs for some core services--which includes a safety net--and then get out of the way. not every problem has a govt fix.

i think romney gets that far better than obama. doesn't mean i'll vote for him, but i sure don't appreciate being called stupid for so considering---particularly by the limo lib crowd.

[Anonymous]

Vote obama if you want more government jobs and programs.

Vote for romney of you want more private sector jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Vote obama if you want more government jobs and programs.

Vote for romney of you want more private sector jobs.

Really, aren't you the same guy complaining about how he is cutting billions from th military? Exactly what sector is he military?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the OP that asked this question before. Thanks for trying again! Still can't get anyone to give us anything substantial, can we?

If they can't tell us what they expect from R/R OR tell us how all these things were better under Bush, maybe they can tell us what is so bad about Obama?

Come on, people! What policies are you so upset about? And WHY are you upset about hose policies?

there are several active Obama/Romney threads right now, and I have yet to see anyone give a real reason to dislike Obama. It's pretty disturbing.

Here is how Obama has affected my family and me.

Obamacare (screws medical sales companies)
Obama's threat to raise taxes on people and small business making over 250k a year.
Obama vilifying anyone that makes over 250k a year and proclaiming that taxes are for the good of all where as our donations to charities and churches are less important.

Yes the bush years were much better for our family. The promise of lower taxes and the fact that happened as well as better housing values. Granted those things are not under Obama's control, yes things were better under the Bush years. You asked right?

I am busy working so the above is a few things of a long list but I don't have time to write them all.

As you say give a real reason I have given more than 1 "real reason".

How about that last year under Bush? Was that good for your family, too? Or is that year somehow magically Obama's fault even though he wasn't in office?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vote obama if you want more government jobs and programs.

Vote for romney of you want more private sector jobs.

Really, aren't you the same guy complaining about how he is cutting billions from th military? Exactly what sector is he military?

Those complaints may be because like it not, defense is one of our greatest innovators and job engines. Cut or gut it and our physical safety is just one thing of many to worry about. If you can't comprehend the indirect impact it has on NOVA then there's little hope for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ok, I'll take a stab at this.

i'm undecided, wholly around social issues and fear of rewarding bad behavior with the white house. but i read a lot of remarks by corp ceo's and they are frozen with uncertainty right now, thus are reluctant to hire.

i believe obama took on the wrong issue out of the box with health care and he and the economy has paid a price since. most of the stimulus money went to transfer payments and bailing out states instead of bricks and mortar--in my view a flawed decision.

dodd-frank is a full employment project for banking lawyers--jamie dimon asked a simple question: did anyone add up the cumulative impact of all the new regs? i think he got back a blank stare. i think there was little focus on the unintended consequences of a new massively complex bill. but i really think dems who want more stimulus spending don't have the background to understand the sand-in-the-gears impact of these and other new regs.

Keystone--should have been an easy call. it sends a terrible message and has much broader impact beyond one pipeline.

my bottom line--over the past decade there have been zero net private jobs in this country..any growth has been wholly in the public sector. there is, i think by now, an appreciation that public sector will not grow, so we must have private sector job growth. i fear that will not happen, or will not happen at a brisk pace, under a 2nd obama term.

now please don't go parsing speeches and ask me to cite "so where exactly does he trash big biz." i'm just saying the cumulative effect of 4 years of this administration is that they don't get how to set the table (and then get out of the way) for robust private sector job creation.

and, fundamentally, i think they don't understand govt's inability to do much here except harm. Was there a master fed policy to encourage growth in social media employment? Natural gas production?

but it's my bias--i think a govt should collect the revenue it needs for some core services--which includes a safety net--and then get out of the way. not every problem has a govt fix.

i think romney gets that far better than obama. doesn't mean i'll vote for him, but i sure don't appreciate being called stupid for so considering---particularly by the limo lib crowd.

I appreciate your ability to speak in full sentences so Im not going to attack you for it. You have some interesting points but please watch the debates and I think you will feel more confident in O and will have a clearer picture of his 2nd term vision. I will say that I strongly disagree about Keystone. I am an environmental scientist, and I know the impact would have been devastating and costly.

Thanks for sharing your view.

[Anonymous]

Ask Sheldon Adelson how much he going to contribute to pay for the attack on Iran or is it a job creator

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ok, I'll take a stab at this.


I appreciate your ability to speak in full sentences so Im not going to attack you for it. You have some interesting points but please watch the debates and I think you will feel more confident in O and will have a clearer picture of his 2nd term vision. I will say that I strongly disagree about Keystone. I am an environmental scientist, and I know the impact would have been devastating and costly.

Thanks for sharing your view.

ok you were nice so I'll have a light touch too. Do you understand the code behind the "full sentence" crack? I understand that we're not drawing the leading lights of conservative thought here, but why should they hang here? Sry, but I have an intense loathing for the crowd that hates any company except Apple and Whole Foods. Maybe you have a good case against Keystone, but it would be helpful (and smart) of the greens to say if not keystone here's one we can support. That we get higher energy prices are a harsh tax on middle america and we all should be trying to help--which ain't gonna happen with wind and solar. That you can't say no to nuke, coal, oil..and then we get handed this gift of gas and we find a way to say no to that too? So ok to impose a regressive tax on a truck driver or carpenter...but hey don't touch my social security? I truly don't get it.

It's almost like a group of dcum'ers draws straw to see who's gonna be the caricature of the dumb republican that day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ok, I'll take a stab at this.

i'm undecided, wholly around social issues and fear of rewarding bad behavior with the white house. but i read a lot of remarks by corp ceo's and they are frozen with uncertainty right now, thus are reluctant to hire.

i believe obama took on the wrong issue out of the box with health care and he and the economy has paid a price since. most of the stimulus money went to transfer payments and bailing out states instead of bricks and mortar--in my view a flawed decision.

dodd-frank is a full employment project for banking lawyers--jamie dimon asked a simple question: did anyone add up the cumulative impact of all the new regs? i think he got back a blank stare. i think there was little focus on the unintended consequences of a new massively complex bill. but i really think dems who want more stimulus spending don't have the background to understand the sand-in-the-gears impact of these and other new regs.

Keystone--should have been an easy call. it sends a terrible message and has much broader impact beyond one pipeline.

my bottom line--over the past decade there have been zero net private jobs in this country..any growth has been wholly in the public sector. there is, i think by now, an appreciation that public sector will not grow, so we must have private sector job growth. i fear that will not happen, or will not happen at a brisk pace, under a 2nd obama term.

now please don't go parsing speeches and ask me to cite "so where exactly does he trash big biz." i'm just saying the cumulative effect of 4 years of this administration is that they don't get how to set the table (and then get out of the way) for robust private sector job creation.

and, fundamentally, i think they don't understand govt's inability to do much here except harm. Was there a master fed policy to encourage growth in social media employment? Natural gas production?

but it's my bias--i think a govt should collect the revenue it needs for some core services--which includes a safety net--and then get out of the way. not every problem has a govt fix.

i think romney gets that far better than obama. doesn't mean i'll vote for him, but i sure don't appreciate being called stupid for so considering---particularly by the limo lib crowd.

This PP sounds more intelligent than the others who posted. But still not making a very strong argument.

PP, have you ever seen an oil spill? have you ever been one of the responders responsible for cleaning up a spill and leak? I have many times. I can assure you that you do not want this mess throughout the most sensitive lands in our country. Are you one of those who also wants to get rid of EPA? If so, who is going to focus on overseeing this mess and cleaning it up when things go wrong. And things WILL go wrong.

Most of your argument makes you look like the typical American who is obsessed with instant gratification. Republicans are giving Obama a hard time because he still blames Bush. They say he should have his mess cleaned up by now. Bush was president for EIGHT YEARS! those eight years included the most devastating attack in the history of our country and the beginning of 2 wars. Also some insanely irresponsible spending and policy. How the hell do you think Obama should be expected to fix it all in less than 4 years? Obama could have focused more on instant gratification. He could have given us more tax cuts, etc that would put a few dollars in our pockets just to make us cheer for him and make us fell all warm and fuzzy toward him. this would have made re-election much easier, but those "gifts" would make things worse in the long run. Instead, he has a long term plan and vision that will take a second term to complete. he's not superman. though, in my book, he's pretty close. It would have been better politics to make healthcare a second term goal. Or push the changes through so quickly that everyone will experience the benefits of it before they hit the voting booth. But that would have been too much too soon and the adjustment would have created many problems down the road (after Nov.6).

Face it, he leads like an actual responsible grown-up. Not like Bush who is like the kid passing out candy to the other kids at the playground so that they won't tattle on him when he plays in traffic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vote obama if you want more government jobs and programs.

Vote for romney of you want more private sector jobs.

Really, aren't you the same guy complaining about how he is cutting billions from th military? Exactly what sector is he military?

I'm no expert, but when you end a war and are in the process of ending another, doesn't it make sense to cut billions from the military? As in, the billions that are paying for those wars?

[Anonymous]

Great, lets end all wars

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Great, lets end all wars

that's intelligent. Thanks for contributing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ok, I'll take a stab at this.

i'm undecided, wholly around social issues and fear of rewarding bad behavior with the white house. but i read a lot of remarks by corp ceo's and they are frozen with uncertainty right now, thus are reluctant to hire.

i believe obama took on the wrong issue out of the box with health care and he and the economy has paid a price since. most of the stimulus money went to transfer payments and bailing out states instead of bricks and mortar--in my view a flawed decision.

dodd-frank is a full employment project for banking lawyers--jamie dimon asked a simple question: did anyone add up the cumulative impact of all the new regs? i think he got back a blank stare. i think there was little focus on the unintended consequences of a new massively complex bill. but i really think dems who want more stimulus spending don't have the background to understand the sand-in-the-gears impact of these and other new regs.

Keystone--should have been an easy call. it sends a terrible message and has much broader impact beyond one pipeline.

my bottom line--over the past decade there have been zero net private jobs in this country..any growth has been wholly in the public sector. there is, i think by now, an appreciation that public sector will not grow, so we must have private sector job growth. i fear that will not happen, or will not happen at a brisk pace, under a 2nd obama term.

now please don't go parsing speeches and ask me to cite "so where exactly does he trash big biz." i'm just saying the cumulative effect of 4 years of this administration is that they don't get how to set the table (and then get out of the way) for robust private sector job creation.

and, fundamentally, i think they don't understand govt's inability to do much here except harm. Was there a master fed policy to encourage growth in social media employment? Natural gas production?

but it's my bias--i think a govt should collect the revenue it needs for some core services--which includes a safety net--and then get out of the way. not every problem has a govt fix.

i think romney gets that far better than obama. doesn't mean i'll vote for him, but i sure don't appreciate being called stupid for so considering---particularly by the limo lib crowd.

Keystone pipeline would only transport about 6 years worth of oil. That's right, I said "transport" because you do realize, don't you, that a pipeline transports (not produces) oil? And it would actually increase gas prices in America. Especially the midwest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the OP that asked this question before. Thanks for trying again! Still can't get anyone to give us anything substantial, can we?

If they can't tell us what they expect from R/R OR tell us how all these things were better under Bush, maybe they can tell us what is so bad about Obama?

Come on, people! What policies are you so upset about? And WHY are you upset about hose policies?

there are several active Obama/Romney threads right now, and I have yet to see anyone give a real reason to dislike Obama. It's pretty disturbing.

Here is how Obama has affected my family and me.

Obamacare (screws medical sales companies)
Obama's threat to raise taxes on people and small business making over 250k a year.
Obama vilifying anyone that makes over 250k a year and proclaiming that taxes are for the good of all where as our donations to charities and churches are less important.

Yes the bush years were much better for our family. The promise of lower taxes and the fact that happened as well as better housing values. Granted those things are not under Obama's control, yes things were better under the Bush years. You asked right?

I am busy working so the above is a few things of a long list but I don't have time to write them all.

As you say give a real reason I have given more than 1 "real reason".

How about that last year under Bush? Was that good for your family, too? Or is that year somehow magically Obama's fault even though he wasn't in office?

Do you think constantly blaming Bush is going to fix anything today? If so, please explain how it's going to turn the economy around.

[Anonymous]

This is what r/r will do. Blame Obama for everything....oh wait they are doing that already.