and if you have ever gone to the wrong polling station or your name not show up at your assigned location, it is a pain in the ass to fill out a provisional or try to correct that situation to where you almost dont want to go on and vote.
some of you act like bussing 100 of people to anywhere usa is all it takes and said person can just vote without submitting a name of anything. dont dumb down and water your argument so it can fit your narrative |
Vote fraud is an illusion in the US. That is not to say that an occasional idiot votes who should not. But the numbers are meaningless. Meanwhile, in Florida 2000, hundreds of thousands of votes were not counted. These votes represent inviduals who showed up at the poll, and their votes were not counted. This does NOT mean necessarily that Gore won 2000. He may not have even if they had been counted. But we do know that hundreds of thousands of votes were not counted. If those numbers are even somewhat comparable across the country, that could mean millions of Americans who show up to vote do not have their votes counted. That is simply an embarrassment. If the same thing happened in another country, the USG would be complaining, |
they already do this in my neighborhood, they ask for id |
i am more in favor of weighting your vote with either how much tax you pay or intelligence. Why should someone who is sucking down taxes and doesn't put anything in have as much as say as someone who is paying? Wouldn't you always vote for free shit. |
funny.... |
12:06 again. The problem with your "state issued ids with photos" is that the MVA still charges money to get one. Many people who are below the poverty line do not have $15 extra to spend on a card. And they shouldn't have to pay $15 in order to vote. That's classism at work. If you're going to mandate that identification be provided to vote, then that identification needs to be freely available to any citizen eligible to vote. I worked for over 20 years at our local soup kitchen and I watched, especially at the height of the recession, the influx of people who had jobs coming into the kitchen for meals. There were some who could only find part-time work, some who had to find other means of support as businesses raised prices to account for rising fuel prices, etc. For many businesses, when the recession hit, they cut back on hourly workers either firing them or cutting their part-time hours. I knew one guy who had to walk to three autoshops to work. During the worst part of the recession at one point he was cut back to only working 16 hours per week. His paychecks just barely paid his part of a shared apartment. While many were just indigent homeless, there are still many who were the working poor and just couldn't make ends meet. They came to the soup kitchen so that they could save on expenses and stretch that paycheck farther. For these people, $15 could be a week's worth (or more) of groceries to supply their residence while they came into the soup kitchen for dinner. These people don't have $15 extra and if they did, they wouldn't spend it on a state issued ID. And so, you would be depriving these people of their right to vote. Despicable. And this is the attitude of the Republican mascot, Mitt Romney, who really doesn't care about the 15% below the poverty level ($10,890) or the 47.39% that are near-poverty (make under $25K annually). Do you realize that near half of the US makes less than $25K annually. And Mitt Romney doesn't care about them. Voting is not just for the wealthy and those of you who feel poor at $200K HHI, have no idea. |
Why do the people who want voter ID oppose national ID? Seems hypocritical. |
Buying beer and cigarttes or flying arent constitutional rights fundamental to the preservation of a democracy.
Voter fraud is a bogeyman manufactured by the right to keep poor and democratic voters away from the polls. |
For the presidential election, we don't have a democracy anyway. The way it's looking now, your vote will only count if you live in Florida. |
So why dont they issue a photo voter ID card when you register to vote? I vote early all the time as I travel for work and am askEd for a photo ID everytime ( VA) |
Dont they need an id to buy booze, so whats the problem. if they are so poor and are on welfare do they ned id |
but when you go to buy booze or get free health care at the county clinic, you remember your ID. When you go to vote, you always forget it at home. |
yes cause all poor people want to do is buy booze and buy cancer sticks so these poor bums should already have some sort of ID.
great logic |
Because they want them to vote for him. |
That's not true. You get a social security card at birth. Lots of people don't fly planes or by smokes. Unfortunately wealth favors Republicans, and wealthy people have ID. If Republicans wanted fairness, they would allow us to issue government ID's to everyone. They won't because they don't want the government tracking them, or so they say. And they love that it will cut down on the number of Democrats who vote. If you want to know who really wants to prevent issuing IDs, look no further than your own Tea Party: http://www.nhteapartycoalition.org/tea/issues/states-rights/new-real-id-act-s1261the-pass/ |