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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]12:06 i agree with what you said and i dont like addressing the issue on the matter of race cause thats an easy opening for some republicans to play gotcha and move the entire discussion along that line.

as you stated its not race. its class.

many of us on here take things for granted cause we have cars and IDs up the wazoo but most americans dont have the same ease to get around and do things like the rest of us. adding more to a very simple process only turns people away. hell it may turn "regular" people like us off if they want to take it further and require a state issue ID seperate from drivers license to vote[/quote]

You can get get state issued ids with photos if you don't have or qualify for a drivers license or permit.  What about people getting welfare or food stamps?  Photo id on food stamp electronic cards is also an issue-even though recipients have cards.  Welfare photo id?

What about working poor ?  You know people used to buy paper bonds at banks. What about the elderly who don't use computers?  I guess they can't buy them anymore.[/quote]

12:06 again.  The problem with your "state issued ids with photos" is that the MVA still charges money to get one.  Many people who are below the poverty line do not have $15 extra to spend on a card.  And they shouldn't have to pay $15 in order to vote.  That's classism at work.  If you're going to mandate that identification be provided to vote, then that identification needs to be freely available to any citizen eligible to vote.

I worked for over 20 years at our local soup kitchen and I watched, especially at the height of the recession, the influx of people who had jobs coming into the kitchen for meals.  There were some who could only find part-time work, some who had to find other means of support as businesses raised prices to account for rising fuel prices, etc.  For many businesses, when the recession hit, they cut back on hourly workers either firing them or cutting their part-time hours.  I knew one guy who had to walk to three autoshops to work.  During the worst part of the recession at one point he was cut back to only working 16 hours per week.  His paychecks just barely paid his part of a shared apartment.  While many were just indigent homeless, there are still many who were the working poor and just couldn't make ends meet.  They came to the soup kitchen so that they could save on expenses and stretch that paycheck farther.  For these people, $15 could be a week's worth (or more) of groceries to supply their residence while they came into the soup kitchen for dinner.  These people don't have $15 extra and if they did, they wouldn't spend it on a state issued ID.  And so, you would be depriving these people of their right to vote.  Despicable.  And this is the attitude of the Republican mascot, Mitt Romney, who really doesn't care about the 15% below the poverty level ($10,890) or the 47.39% that are near-poverty (make under $25K annually).  Do you realize that near half of the US makes less than $25K annually.  And Mitt Romney doesn't care about them.  Voting is not just for the wealthy and those of you who feel poor at $200K HHI, have no idea. [/quote]

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