Does Beauvoir Adequately Prepare Students Academically for St. Albans / NCS?

[Anonymous]

Another former Beauvoir parent here. I'm not PP, but Beauvoir is different. I disagree about the smart kids, but agree about the discipline. If your child does not walk a straight and narrow line, he will be unhappy at Beauvoir. Not so with many other area privates. I believe the expectations there are very different from other schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:B is a great school. Our DD went there. It, however, is not a great school for every kid. It works best for those super smart kids who have their act together at a relatively young age. Given its feeder reputation, B can be highly selective, meaning that it gets a large share of super smart kids. For these kids, B is great fun, love of learning, etc. And a good portion of them will end up at STA or NCS (where our daughter went). But B is not the best for kids with delayed learning issues, with a need for more discipline, etc. Many kids blossom later.

When did private school become the place to send children with " delayed learning issues" ? Honestly, the private schools are pretty honest when they require an IQ test for admission. If you know your DC has a learning disability, seems a bit unfair to blame the school for failing to help them to completely over come it. Hire a tutor if your child needs 1:1, even in private school with a 10:1 ratio, teachers do have to teach the group, not set everyone aside to teach one kid.

[Anonymous]

My DD went all the way through B and is now in school at NCS. She consistently gets A's in math and science. She was very much prepared by Beauvoir. I don't think the prep came from math drills and memorization but instead from loving to learn, confidence in her abilities, and the ability to critically think her way through a math problem.

[Anonymous]

My DD went all the way through B and is now in school at NCS. She consistently gets A's in math and science. She was very much prepared by Beauvoir. I don't think the prep came from math drills and memorization but instead from loving to learn, confidence in her abilities, and the ability to critically think her way through a math problem.

Great. Someone that knows something about science. Let's drill down a little and tease out potential confounders that may bias your conclusions.
Has your child ever had tutors or atttended supplemental classes after class and in the summers (e.g., SAT, ACT, PSAT, SSAT, ERB, A-P prep, or Math and
Science courses over the summer)?

[Anonymous]

This is 21:44, my child has never had tutoring. Never any academic summer courses. And she is only in 6th grade so jury is still out on how well she will continue to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Beauvoir is an outstanding school.

The reason that some STA faculty have sent their sons to St. Pats is that they receive no break on tuition at Beauvoir and St. Pats has a tradition of working with STA faculty families to make it (almost!!) do-able. (In reality, both schools are completely unaffordable for a family supported by a teacher salary, but St Pats is a little better). The Head at St. Pats, is a former STA faculty member and the relationship between the two schools is very strong.

Because of the extreme cost, we are only talking about a few faculty children, even at St Pats.

And except for one son that I can think of, all the STA faculty sons end up at STA in either 4th or 7th grade.

Your argument doesn't make sense. Of course Beauvoir offers FA, just as St. Patrick's does. There is no "tuition break" for STA teachers at St. Patrick's. At both schools, FA is simply given to those who qualify for it.

[Anonymous]

Nothing can prepare one for the rigors of St. Albans.

My son is one of those 99 percenters and a Beauvoir grad. When we got to STA it was pure culture shock, in terms of the academic rigor/workload and social atmosphere (i.e., its nurturing in a non-coddling kind of way).

We loved Beauvoir and we love STA. But I'm not sure if this would be true if the rigors of STA started off in K-3.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

My DD went all the way through B and is now in school at NCS. She consistently gets A's in math and science. She was very much prepared by Beauvoir. I don't think the prep came from math drills and memorization but instead from loving to learn, confidence in her abilities, and the ability to critically think her way through a math problem.

Great. Someone that knows something about science. Let's drill down a little and tease out potential confounders that may bias your conclusions.
Has your child ever had tutors or atttended supplemental classes after class and in the summers (e.g., SAT, ACT, PSAT, SSAT, ERB, A-P prep, or Math and
Science courses over the summer)?

It is not pp's job to have you, in your infinite wisdom and with your clearly more evolved mind and vocabulary, "drill down" and "tease out" any "bias" based on whether her child has "ever" had a tutor or out-of-school class. This is not the inquisition, and pp appears to have offered information to be helpful. If you'd like additional information, you could try just asking politely, rather than setting her up as one would a deponent. You're clearly looking for some hook to determine that Beauvoir provides a sub par education. Guess what? Many of us believe, based on substantial experience, that the education is high quality, including in math and science. And, yes, our children do take science and engineering-related courses at times during the school year, and sometimes over the summer. In our case our perspective is coming from parents who each has a degree (though DH has 2) in math and/or a science from a top ivy. Tease out those cofounders, and good luck in getting anyone to provide you with helpful information in real life if this is how you behave.

[Anonymous]

NP. What I appreciate most about the education that my DS received from B is that he loves learning. The majority of his teachers at B were top notch and clearly and consistently realized his strengths and challenges and nurtured his gifts without parental prodding. B prepared him much more than merely adequately. And no, he has not been tutored or worksheeted in order to keep up at STA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

My DD went all the way through B and is now in school at NCS. She consistently gets A's in math and science. She was very much prepared by Beauvoir. I don't think the prep came from math drills and memorization but instead from loving to learn, confidence in her abilities, and the ability to critically think her way through a math problem.

Great. Someone that knows something about science. Let's drill down a little and tease out potential confounders that may bias your conclusions.
Has your child ever had tutors or atttended supplemental classes after class and in the summers (e.g., SAT, ACT, PSAT, SSAT, ERB, A-P prep, or Math and
Science courses over the summer)?

A different poster here. My child has attended Beauvoir all the way through, did extremely well on the ERB and STA exam, never had a day of prep, Kumon, or tutoring in his life. I don't even review his home work. Beauvoir also instilled in him a real sense of community.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

My DD went all the way through B and is now in school at NCS. She consistently gets A's in math and science. She was very much prepared by Beauvoir. I don't think the prep came from math drills and memorization but instead from loving to learn, confidence in her abilities, and the ability to critically think her way through a math problem.

Great. Someone that knows something about science. Let's drill down a little and tease out potential confounders that may bias your conclusions.
Has your child ever had tutors or atttended supplemental classes after class and in the summers (e.g., SAT, ACT, PSAT, SSAT, ERB, A-P prep, or Math and
Science courses over the summer)?

It is not pp's job to have you, in your infinite wisdom and with your clearly more evolved mind and vocabulary, "drill down" and "tease out" any "bias" based on whether her child has "ever" had a tutor or out-of-school class. This is not the inquisition, and pp appears to have offered information to be helpful. If you'd like additional information, you could try just asking politely, rather than setting her up as one would a deponent. You're clearly looking for some hook to determine that Beauvoir provides a sub par education. Guess what? Many of us believe, based on substantial experience, that the education is high quality, including in math and science. And, yes, our children do take science and engineering-related courses at times during the school year, and sometimes over the summer. In our case our perspective is coming from parents who each has a degree (though DH has 2) in math and/or a science from a top ivy. Tease out those cofounders, and good luck in getting anyone to provide you with helpful information in real life if this is how you behave.

OP here. I did not make the post to which you are responding above. I agree that the B parent provided helpful information and I very much appreciate all the B parents who are doing so in response to the topic I posed. When I originally posted, it was without any defamatory intention towards B, but rather to try to find out from parents whether they felt that their B graduates were as prepared as their peers when they went on to STA or NCS. In connection with that, was an interest in discovering why some STA teachers choose to send their children to schools other than B as prep for STA. I thank everyone who has responded constructively on those topics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nothing can prepare one for the rigors of St. Albans.

My son is one of those 99 percenters and a Beauvoir grad. When we got to STA it was pure culture shock, in terms of the academic rigor/workload and social atmosphere (i.e., its nurturing in a non-coddling kind of way).

We loved Beauvoir and we love STA. But I'm not sure if this would be true if the rigors of STA started off in K-3.

Beauvoir parent here: can you please elaborate on what was a "culture shock..in terms of social atmosphere" ? Thanks

[Anonymous]

What kind of tutoring do people arrange for their kids: one-to-one with a college kid, Kumon, something else??

[Anonymous]

I think BVR and STA need to be better coordinated. It does not seem like they are on the same page. This past year, the C form academic results skewed hard towards the non-BVR kids. BVR Kids should have a leg up on the other kids but that does not seem to be the case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:STA has their own way -- far different than Beauvoir. They are known for "getting the Beauvor out of the boys."

I totally believe this to be true.