S/O, why is the black woman figure big?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here. The reason for my post is that I am curious why black women who are heavy think that is just the way it is. Sort of like "if I am black, I should be heavy".

I am black and quite thin, but I have heard my whole life that I am shaped like a white woman. How ridiculous is that?
I am thin because I eat little food (health conscious and picky). I have very little genetic contribution from Europe or Asia, so most (>85%) of my genes are African, and I am thin.


I would guess it is a lifestyle you learned and grew up in. The fat lifestyle is the same. Everyone you know is fat, eats junk food and that's the way it is.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. The reason for my post is that I am curious why black women who are heavy think that is just the way it is. Sort of like "if I am black, I should be heavy".

I am black and quite thin, but I have heard my whole life that I am shaped like a white woman. How ridiculous is that?
I am thin because I eat little food (health conscious and picky). I have very little genetic contribution from Europe or Asia, so most (>85%) of my genes are African, and I am thin.


I would guess it is a lifestyle you learned and grew up in. The fat lifestyle is the same. Everyone you know is fat, eats junk food and that's the way it is.


This is not correct. I am fat and eat very little junk food and packaged food. I can't tell you the last time I had a soda with sugar or a potato chip. I have, however, eaten a lot of calories and that, combined with metabolism/PCOS issues and lack of exercise, is why I am fat.

For example, brie cheese and french bread are not junk food, but if you eat too much of them you will gain weight, unless you offset that by a lot of exercise.

it is true that an excess of calories cause you to gain weight and it's a lot easier to get high amounts of calories with junk food.

Anonymous
A lot of African American men find a plump figure attractive. I'm a white woman, size 16. I've dated a black man who not only found my size perfectly acceptable but in fact was crazy about my bod. On the other hand, a lot of white men find my curvy, soft body repugnant. So if you've got what your man wants (even if it's not the prevailing standard of beauty in larger society and you certainly could be more fit and healthy), that in itself is a compelling reason to stay just the way you are.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. The reason for my post is that I am curious why black women who are heavy think that is just the way it is. Sort of like "if I am black, I should be heavy".

I am black and quite thin, but I have heard my whole life that I am shaped like a white woman. How ridiculous is that?
I am thin because I eat little food (health conscious and picky). I have very little genetic contribution from Europe or Asia, so most (>85%) of my genes are African, and I am thin.


I would guess it is a lifestyle you learned and grew up in. The fat lifestyle is the same. Everyone you know is fat, eats junk food and that's the way it is.


This is not correct. I am fat and eat very little junk food and packaged food. I can't tell you the last time I had a soda with sugar or a potato chip. I have, however, eaten a lot of calories and that, combined with metabolism/PCOS issues and lack of exercise, is why I am fat.

For example, brie cheese and french bread are not junk food, but if you eat too much of them you will gain weight, unless you offset that by a lot of exercise.

it is true that an excess of calories cause you to gain weight and it's a lot easier to get high amounts of calories with junk food.



I meant those without medical issues. The metabolism/PCOS issues are medical issues contributing to your weight. But it is a lifestyle choice to eat a lot of calories and not exercise.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Are you for real?

There are several metabolic disorders that will cause one to gain fat even though they consume a well balanced diet and exercise often. Also inumoerous medications can cause weight gain even when the person keeps good habits.

Aging also can cause weight loss/gain Even when the person keeps healthy habits. Freaking weather changes can cause your body to process ATP at a different rate so you'll gain weight even though you're consuming the same diet and doing the same exercise as before!

How ignorant can you be? You really didn't know this or you're just trolling?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Crap.

People who eat more, weigh more. It's not rocket science.

Maybe it is true that some people, black and white, have a propensity to be bigger, but that is just a propensity.... it can't take effect if you aren't eating more than your body needs.

Too much fuel = fat.


I can't believe this! We're almost in 2011 people still believe this is the only reason for one to be fat?!



So what is your explanation? I think you are wrong. High caloric intake is THE ONLY explanation for obesity. Until we accept that, things will never get better.



Take two people with hypothyroidism give one a high calorie diet and the other a low calorie diet, guess which one will be heavier.
Take two old people...
Anonymous
Both will be fat.

I've exercised and ate healthy my entire life. I was a professional athlete in my home country and made a successful career as a personal trainer and fitness coach in a weight loss clinic there. Still my lowest weight ever was 160 lbs at 5ft tall. I have PCOS and low thyroid. My labs are all in the perfect range of normal and my blood pressure/heart rate is always on the low side because of the constant exercising.

In some circumstances there's just no way to go skinny even if you starve yourself. And that is not smart.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are you for real?

There are several metabolic disorders that will cause one to gain fat even though they consume a well balanced diet and exercise often. Also inumoerous medications can cause weight gain even when the person keeps good habits.

Aging also can cause weight loss/gain Even when the person keeps healthy habits. Freaking weather changes can cause your body to process ATP at a different rate so you'll gain weight even though you're consuming the same diet and doing the same exercise as before!

How ignorant can you be? You really didn't know this or you're just trolling?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Crap.

People who eat more, weigh more. It's not rocket science.

Maybe it is true that some people, black and white, have a propensity to be bigger, but that is just a propensity.... it can't take effect if you aren't eating more than your body needs.

Too much fuel = fat.


I can't believe this! We're almost in 2011 people still believe this is the only reason for one to be fat?!



So what is your explanation? I think you are wrong. High caloric intake is THE ONLY explanation for obesity. Until we accept that, things will never get better.



Take two people with hypothyroidism give one a high calorie diet and the other a low calorie diet, guess which one will be heavier.
Take two old people...
Anonymous
THIS to the PP at the top.

I am 5'6", 175, size 12. I have PCOS/hypothyroidism, daily exercise with personal trainer, several medications, diet constructed by my endocrinologist. Cardio health, blood pressure, cholesterol, blood sugars all excellent. But losing weight is literally impossible, and my doctors back that up as fact. Mother and sister are the same way. We are crunchy granola health food nuts, and you can't see it.

Thankfully, my husband loves me healthy and curvy, not starving and full of self-loathing, like I used to be.

Question for those men who like women who look like adolescent boys: why? Where does that come from?


Anonymous wrote:Both will be fat.

I've exercised and ate healthy my entire life. I was a professional athlete in my home country and made a successful career as a personal trainer and fitness coach in a weight loss clinic there. Still my lowest weight ever was 160 lbs at 5ft tall. I have PCOS and low thyroid. My labs are all in the perfect range of normal and my blood pressure/heart rate is always on the low side because of the constant exercising.

In some circumstances there's just no way to go skinny even if you starve yourself. And that is not smart.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are you for real?

There are several metabolic disorders that will cause one to gain fat even though they consume a well balanced diet and exercise often. Also inumoerous medications can cause weight gain even when the person keeps good habits.

Aging also can cause weight loss/gain Even when the person keeps healthy habits. Freaking weather changes can cause your body to process ATP at a different rate so you'll gain weight even though you're consuming the same diet and doing the same exercise as before!

How ignorant can you be? You really didn't know this or you're just trolling?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Crap.

People who eat more, weigh more. It's not rocket science.

Maybe it is true that some people, black and white, have a propensity to be bigger, but that is just a propensity.... it can't take effect if you aren't eating more than your body needs.

Too much fuel = fat.


I can't believe this! We're almost in 2011 people still believe this is the only reason for one to be fat?!



So what is your explanation? I think you are wrong. High caloric intake is THE ONLY explanation for obesity. Until we accept that, things will never get better.



Take two people with hypothyroidism give one a high calorie diet and the other a low calorie diet, guess which one will be heavier.
Take two old people...
Anonymous
The rate of overweight/obesity for black women is higher than any other group at 78%....

Surely PPs with PCOS and other health issues are not suggesting that the reason black women in America have such an astounding rate of overweight or obesity is that they all have metabolic conditions that caused them to retain weight no matter how much they eat!

The reason they gained weight is that they ate too much. They have a cultural acceptance of large sizes and they have a cultural experience that involves making and sharing particularly high fat dishes.

http://minorityhealth.hhs.gov/templates/content.aspx?ID=6456

On the whole, the American population's weight is in SHAMBLES. We no longer recognize what is "normal" weight b/c two-thirds of Americans are overweight or obese. What really is "normal" weight is now considered "skinny" b/c so many people are used to larger sizes.

I see kids on the fast track to obesity in second grade and it makes me sad. Yet, their parents have not put the "lock" on their lunch accounts to stop them from buying ice cream bars and cookies at lunch. We no longer understand what a portion size is. We are so used to a hamburger looking like a big mac, that we think a regular hamburger is deprivation. Eating at home and being a bit lazy (i.e. I don't want to cook a lot) is my biggest asset in keeping normal sized.

Anonymous
Yes, where does that interest in having a women look like stick--no hips, though (trying to have) larger breasts , like this example from another thread of LeAnn Rimes:
Anonymous
Africa is a HUGE continent and people vary greatly. Just like Scandinavians tend to be tall/big (not fat, just big) and French people tend to be small, I would assume it works the same way in Africa.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Crap.

People who eat more, weigh more. It's not rocket science.

Maybe it is true that some people, black and white, have a propensity to be bigger, but that is just a propensity.... it can't take effect if you aren't eating more than your body needs.

Too much fuel = fat.


I can't believe this! We're almost in 2011 people still believe this is the only reason for one to be fat?!



So what is your explanation? I think you are wrong. High caloric intake is THE ONLY explanation for obesity. Until we accept that, things will never get better.


This is simply not true. Many people are genetically predisposed to being heavy, just like some people are predisposed to being thin. What you eat and how much you exercise does has something to do with it, but it is NOT the ONLY explanation.
Anonymous
To answer the OP's original question: Why is the black woman figure big?

The answer is that, as a fact, nearly 80% of black women are overweight or obese.

The image corresponds to the reality.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Africa is a HUGE continent and people vary greatly. Just like Scandinavians tend to be tall/big (not fat, just big) and French people tend to be small, I would assume it works the same way in Africa.


To add only to the genetic (not cultural) aspects: it is my understanding that there is more genetic diversity on the African continent than in the rest of the world combined. This may technically no longer be the case due to modern migrations of African individuals to other parts of the world.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:THIS to the PP at the top.

I am 5'6", 175, size 12. I have PCOS/hypothyroidism, daily exercise with personal trainer, several medications, diet constructed by my endocrinologist. Cardio health, blood pressure, cholesterol, blood sugars all excellent. But losing weight is literally impossible, and my doctors back that up as fact. Mother and sister are the same way. We are crunchy granola health food nuts, and you can't see it.

Thankfully, my husband loves me healthy and curvy, not starving and full of self-loathing, like I used to be.

Question for those men who like women who look like adolescent boys: why? Where does that come from?



Your self-loathing still manifests itself in your insecurity around thin women. Why do you feel the need to make fun of them or the men who like them? Just curious....
Anonymous
There cannot be much truth to the idea about stronger/fatter slaves bringing more propensity for overweight/obesity to the US:

In 1960, the rate of obestity for black women was 25%, in 2008 the rate was 51% (obesity only, not including overweight people). For black men in 1960, the obesity rate was 13.9%, in 2008 it was 37.6%.

During the same time, the rates for white women increased from 13.7% (1960) to 33% (2008). For white men, the obesity rate increased from 10% (1960) to 33% 2008).

The rates of increasing obesity for men (both white and black) were about the same over the 48 year span --- roughly 24% increase in obesity. For black women, the overall increase was 26%; for white women, the increase was 20% for the same timeframe.

It ain't about the genes.... it's about the prevalence of fast food, large portions, refined foods with little nutrition, and the idea that we are supposed to feed our faces whenever we are bored. It also has to do with less physical work, less walking, more automation of chores.

Cheap, low-quality, high calorie food is everywhere and advertised. Nobody advertises "apples." We buy what we are told to buy, by the people who want our money.

Lastly, if there were any "weight" to the genetic/African theory, wouldn't the black people in 1960 have a higher percentage of obesity than people in 2008 since those in 1960 are closer in time and more similar genetically than the black population in 2008?

I rest my case.
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