Onset of autism symptoms?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I had a bright boy of 25 months, super verbal, loving, considerate, helpful, 99th percentile on every test....and then...within two weeks...he was profoundly autistic. Flapping hands, crapping his pants, moaning, snotting at the nose, toe-walking, perseverating, head-banging, has never slept a moment again. It just came as a bolt of out the blue! Damnedest thing I'd ever seen! I wish I'd asked on a parenting board so I could have prepared myself.
There, OP, are you happy you asked? I mean really! What a fucking absurd question!


OP here. Did you not read that I have two children in my family with autism? Do not try to project this kind of horrible prejudice onto me. I thought it would be safe to ask advice from this group. This is one question that my brother couldn't answer, and I was misled by his certainty that parents of kids with autism want to help others find ansers.
Anonymous
OP, sorry some PPs jumped on you. They shouldn't have, but being a SN parent can be tough. Very tough.

My DS was 3.5 before he was diagnosed ASD (PDD-NOS). His symptoms showed up around 3. The Docs at KKI said kids like him (very high functioning) are often not diagnosed until 7-10 years old. They can be mistaken for "boys being boys".

But DS is doing great so far with intervention. But we're broke!
Anonymous
There is a difference between being diagnosed late and regression. Most kids with higher functioning ASDs are diagnosed later, but the signs were there before.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ummm ... am in limbo myself at this point my local school system having labelled my son as autistic and his developmental pediatrician being in wait and see mode. I think the poster asks a legitimate question, though oddly, it's not one i've wondered about. I just want to object though, to the implication of at least one poster above that offended posters somehow "win." There were some readers who were offended, and some who weren't which, it should be said, is the nature of just about every post on DCUM. Offended posters are as entitled to their opinion as OP is to ask the question. No animals are more equal than others here.


I'm the poster I believe you are referring to and the implication was not that the offended posters "win." It's not a zero-sum game or a majority vote. The implication is that if some are offended every time these posts pop up, shouldn't that be enough to signal that the behavior isn't appropriate? Does every single person have to be offended in order to deter the behavior? Isn't etiquette a matter of people being generally comfortable?

Yes, on DCUM some people are always offended by something, but there seems to be a general consensus here on Special Needs that (1) this is a caring and accepting forum that does not follow the DCUM trend; (2) these posts offend a lot of Special Needs parents. Given that fact, why do they keep popping up?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I had a bright boy of 25 months, super verbal, loving, considerate, helpful, 99th percentile on every test....and then...within two weeks...he was profoundly autistic. Flapping hands, crapping his pants, moaning, snotting at the nose, toe-walking, perseverating, head-banging, has never slept a moment again. It just came as a bolt of out the blue! Damnedest thing I'd ever seen! I wish I'd asked on a parenting board so I could have prepared myself.
There, OP, are you happy you asked? I mean really! What a fucking absurd question!


OP here. Did you not read that I have two children in my family with autism? Do not try to project this kind of horrible prejudice onto me. I thought it would be safe to ask advice from this group. This is one question that my brother couldn't answer, and I was misled by his certainty that parents of kids with autism want to help others find ansers.


Horrible prejudice?

May I ask what "signs" it is you are constantly watching your son for, OP, since you state you are constantly on watch for signs of autism? What is the horrible prejudice here?
Anonymous
SN mom here. Why shouldn't OP be worried for her son? We love our children and wouldn't trade them for anything but it's hard as hell on many levels.
Anonymous
PP again. My DD started showing signs I'd delays at around two, but she was a very collicky baby until about 6 months old.
Anonymous
Just wanted to add that it would be different if OP had wandered over here from the general parenting board asking us for reassurance to calm her worries about her typically developing child developing autism. In that case I would be chiming in with the criticism. But OP has a niece and nephew with autism and it is known that there is a strong genetic component. These children are part of her family and in no way am I offended by her post.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I had a bright boy of 25 months, super verbal, loving, considerate, helpful, 99th percentile on every test....and then...within two weeks...he was profoundly autistic. Flapping hands, crapping his pants, moaning, snotting at the nose, toe-walking, perseverating, head-banging, has never slept a moment again. It just came as a bolt of out the blue! Damnedest thing I'd ever seen! I wish I'd asked on a parenting board so I could have prepared myself.
There, OP, are you happy you asked? I mean really! What a fucking absurd question!


OP here. Did you not read that I have two children in my family with autism? Do not try to project this kind of horrible prejudice onto me. I thought it would be safe to ask advice from this group. This is one question that my brother couldn't answer, and I was misled by his certainty that parents of kids with autism want to help others find ansers.


Horrible prejudice?

May I ask what "signs" it is you are constantly watching your son for, OP, since you state you are constantly on watch for signs of autism? What is the horrible prejudice here?


Not the OP but I believe the prejudice she's talking about is judgment by some on here that she's looking for parents of kids with ASD to tell her that her DC isn't like theirs - which is apparently what some people perceive. I didn't take it that way at all since she clearly stated since her niece and nephew are ASD and her brother (presumably the father of her niece and nephew) was unable to tell her when she might stop looking for early signs of it. She also clearly knows the stress and challenge of raising ASD kids. Honestly, who here would wish that on anyone? This isn't like the other thread where the OP was 'terrified' something was wrong with her DD but everyone kept telling her she was within normal range on everything. She sounded like a paranoid, competitive basket case looking for reassurance that her DD wasn't like ours. She just kept wailing about how hurt she was by the responses and couldn't understand why anyone would be offended. It wasn't until several follow up posts that she revealed any family history or symptoms in her DD. This thread isn't like that at all. The OP has close family history and knowledge of ASD challenges and recognized in advance that some might be sensitive to her question.

I gently suggest those who had such a visceral reaction to the OP step back and reflect on what caused them to have that reaction. The OP's question is legitimate and was posted with consideration. That you missed it indicates the prejudice is yours, not hers.
Anonymous
Shame on all of you who don't advocate to your friends, family and inquisitive person about autism.

No one else will tell you this, but I will. As long as you vaccinate and use antibiotics and other pharmaceuticals that are chemical in nature, you run the risk of autism. I'd say that if you got through the first MMR just fine, your child will probably be OK. Many children regress after a set of vaccines. The MMR seems to be particularly nasty for regressions.

You wont get the full truth on THIS board about autism because there is a bunch of denial here. If you seek out the autism boards on Yahoo, you'll get a better and broader version of the truth.
Anonymous
OP has a legitimate question. Even if she didn't have autism in the family, it is still a legitimate question. If you are offended by it, leave or don't answer. But questions like this arise from concern, not vindictiveness.

I don't have an answer for you, OP, though I too am curious, and welcome sincere responses.

People need to realize that jumping on other concerned parents doesn't do anyone any favors. The fact is, people don't want their kids to have autism. It's that simple. That doesn't mean we don't love our kids.
Anonymous
It amazes me how anyone could be offended by OP's post. This is an open forum and there is an infinite range of "special needs". Some parents here are dealing with severe health problems that could shorten their child's life span, while others are dealing with very mild cases of Asperger's or PDD. There are no separate boards for severe/mild so any question is valid. My heart goes out to parents of kids with severe issues, but you have to realize that this board is open to everyone and it's OK if parents express concern over the possibility of atypical development.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Shame on all of you who don't advocate to your friends, family and inquisitive person about autism.

No one else will tell you this, but I will. As long as you vaccinate and use antibiotics and other pharmaceuticals that are chemical in nature, you run the risk of autism. I'd say that if you got through the first MMR just fine, your child will probably be OK. Many children regress after a set of vaccines. The MMR seems to be particularly nasty for regressions.

You wont get the full truth on THIS board about autism because there is a bunch of denial here. If you seek out the autism boards on Yahoo, you'll get a better and broader version of the truth.


So its our fault. Lovely. And to bring this full circle to OP's question, my ds showed signs before any vaccinations, from the get-go. It wasn't vaccines and it wasn't antibiotics and we know this for a fact. he was born this way.

Also, go to Hell.
Anonymous
OP, my son was diagnosed with PDD at 3.5 years and later diagnosed with Asperger's. Looking back at the doctor's notes (we requested copies of all his files from our previous doctor) and my memories, there were signs, some subtle that I ignored mainly because friends and family insisted that he was fine. His original pediatrician was "wait and see". However, these signs/symptoms didn't fully emerge until after 18 months. The only thing I can remember and was documented by the doctor was that he didn't wave hello/goodbye and said other words besides mama and dada around 12 months. From 18 months on, the signs were more obvious but I didn't see the big picture. For example, he was hyperlexic and started to learn letters and numbers at 18 months, had no separation anxiety as a toddler, didn't try to kiss/hug us. Didn't want to hold hands, cut is hair, touch is face, etc. Didn't sustain eye contact, but would look at you. I also noticed some occasional toe walking, pacing/circling and flapping but it didn't really stand out until he was 3.5 yrs old and he really started stimming and perseverating, developing special interests and ignore people around him. He also didn't play with other kids, just next to them. He is now considered high-functioning and we have made a lot of progress with social and OT therapy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Shame on all of you who don't advocate to your friends, family and inquisitive person about autism.

No one else will tell you this, but I will. As long as you vaccinate and use antibiotics and other pharmaceuticals that are chemical in nature, you run the risk of autism. I'd say that if you got through the first MMR just fine, your child will probably be OK. Many children regress after a set of vaccines. The MMR seems to be particularly nasty for regressions.

You wont get the full truth on THIS board about autism because there is a bunch of denial here. If you seek out the autism boards on Yahoo, you'll get a better and broader version of the truth.


So its our fault. Lovely. And to bring this full circle to OP's question, my ds showed signs before any vaccinations, from the get-go. It wasn't vaccines and it wasn't antibiotics and we know this for a fact. he was born this way.

Also, go to Hell.


Geezy petes, lady, sounds like you are already IN hell. So, your child showed signs of autism in his first 2 hours of life before he was injected with Hep B and vit K? How would you know? For all you know it could have been at the 4 month DPT apt. Seriously, get a clue!!!
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