Why do people in DC/MD look down on Virginians?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think this is right at all. I think Virginians look down on Marylanders, and rightfully so. MD was nice 30 years ago, but is a complete crime ridden shithole now. Look at the crime statistics in PG County over the years, and the corruption of the public officials. Montgomery County used to be one of the richest and nicest counties in the country, and now it is so nasty. Howard County is still ok, but way too far from DC.

I agree with this. Grew up in ChCh and now live in Arlington. People in MoCo who think it's all that really have no clue. The traffic and taxes are horrific. The schools might be good compared to DCPS, but they aren't anything close to great.
The commute to downtown really is much faster from Arlington than most of Bethesda, sorry.

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zumbamama wrote:Looking down on people for where they live is rather narrow minded no matter what state you live in.

Word. What a pointless thread. Can't decide if it's more funny or sad that probably most thinking this way pride themselves on their liberal attitudes, and yet are completely fine with not tolerating an entire state of people.

I spent many years of childhood in VA, went to college up north, lived in England for a while, and then moved to DC for several years. Moved to close-in MD when we wanted to buy a house. I've found friends and really good people in all of those places.

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I do think the MD suburbs of DC have gone way downhill in the last two decades, while the Virginia suburbs have managed to grow nicer. I guess I'm being a classist, because basically what I mean are that there are a lot more pockets of poverty (with the associated higher crime) now in PG and Montgomery than in the past. Not too many such areas in Fairfax or Loudoun.

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I'm a Washingtonian and I don't look down on Virginians, but do think MoCo is nicer than Arlington/Fairfax. Don't ask me why, it's just the feeling I get based on the aesthetics of the areas and the people I know who live in those places. Maybe it's all the ugly pockets of development from the 60s in VA. The three most prestigious country clubs (Chevy Chase, Congressional, Columbia) are in MoCo. MoCo has more prestigious private schools than VA. While these things don't matter to me personally, they do make me think that MoCo is more upscale. However, once you get past the suburbs, Virginia is a beautiful state.

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14:49, you hit it. There may be more pockets of poverty in MoCo than there were 30 years ago, but in general, I think MoCo is classier than NoVa because the money has been there longer.

Yes, there are PLENTY of gross, new money people in MD, but VA seems to be far more new money (think disgusting IT McMansions in Ashburn) than MD.

There just isn't as much established wealth in VA as in MD and it shows in the communities.

Also, if politics matter, VA is more red. I find that more conservative newcomers to the area flock to Virginia and liberals tend to choose Maryland.

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and 14:49 is right that once you get past the sprawl and get outside of suburbia, VA is beautiful. But, so is MD. Western Maryland is lovely and so it North of Baltimore and Southern MD has lovely rolling hills and farmland as well.

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if the reason you think MD is better is because of "new money", whatever the hell that means, then you have lost the argument.

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Anonymous wrote:

Why do people in DC/MD look down on Virginians?

Huh? You need to get out more.

Most Virginians are transplanted yankees, and native Virginians can't wait for them to move back to where they came from. The same probably goes for DC and MD.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think this is right at all. I think Virginians look down on Marylanders, and rightfully so. MD was nice 30 years ago, but is a complete crime ridden shithole now. Look at the crime statistics in PG County over the years, and the corruption of the public officials. Montgomery County used to be one of the richest and nicest counties in the country, and now it is so nasty. Howard County is still ok, but way too far from DC.

I agree with this. Grew up in ChCh and now live in Arlington. People in MoCo who think it's all that really have no clue. The traffic and taxes are horrific. The schools might be good compared to DCPS, but they aren't anything close to great.
The commute to downtown really is much faster from Arlington than most of Bethesda, sorry.

Totally agree. Maryland is the only place we've ever lived that we absolutely hated. I wouldn't live there again if you bought me a house and paid me to live in it. We've lived all over this country and overseas and I can't say that about a single other place we've lived. We enjoyed living in D.C. And we loved Fairfax County. But Montgomery Country just sucked in every single way.

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If you hate Montgomery County, and LOVE Fairfax County, then you just don't get Maryland. I am the opposite. Living in Fairfax would be absolute torture to me.

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Anonymous wrote:I lived in Maryland when I first moved here and I loathed it. People in MD are the WORST freaking drivers in the country. Higher taxes, worse roads . . . ugh.

I actually don't get people who live in DC. DC isn't even that great of a city . . . it isn't a city the same way Chicago, New York, and Boston are cities. Everything closes at 5 when everyone flees the city for the burbs. HORRIBLE shopping, except for Georgetown. And don't get me started on schools. Seriously people - move 10 miles in any direction and send your child to some of the best public schools in the country. It's not worth the hell you go through to get junior into Sidwell.

Tell me what closes at 5:00? The Subway on K Street? Expand your knowledge base, please? Been to U St? H St? Even Adams Morgan, for Chrissake? Shopping: Friendship Hts, anyone? I don't think you even KNOW the city.

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Oh . . . .I'm sorry. You are right. There is shopping in Friendship Heights. Friendship Heights IS MD for all intents and purposes . . . one block to the left and you are in MD. It is NOT DC. Sorry.

But I'm sure most DC residents frequent the Tiffanys there.

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I freaking love that PP ignores the 1/4 of the city that is so desolate it lacks even a grocery store, but is trying to claim the Chevy Chase suburb (Friendship Heights) as DC. LOL

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Anonymous wrote:Oh . . . .I'm sorry. You are right. There is shopping in Friendship Heights. Friendship Heights IS MD for all intents and purposes . . . one block to the left and you are in MD. It is NOT DC. Sorry.

But I'm sure most DC residents frequent the Tiffanys there.

I only mentioned Friendship Hts instead of the Target, Best Buy, and other shopping in Columbia Hts b/c if PP thinks that everything "closes at 5" for suburbanites to flee the city she doesn't know where Columbia Hts is. I'm sure she is more familiar with Friendship Hts, DC.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Why do people in DC/MD look down on Virginians?

Huh? You need to get out more.

Most Virginians are transplanted yankees, and native Virginians can't wait for them to move back to where they came from. The same probably goes for DC and MD.

True for northern Virginia around Arlington / DC, but not really the case for the other areas. Now as far as the natives wanting the transplants to return home, well . . . that might be true. :0)