Why do people in DC/MD look down on Virginians?

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Anonymous wrote:I live in VA and at LEAST I have congress representation...unlike DC peeps...

I grew up in MD and love VA much better. Plus...we have WEGMANS!!

I don't look down or up at any other area...

We have WEGMANS in *gasp* PG county. You need a better argument.

There is even a Wegmans in ..wait for it.. Frederick County!!! yes Wegmans in the stix

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Anonymous wrote:I lived in Maryland when I first moved here and I loathed it. People in MD are the WORST freaking drivers in the country. Higher taxes, worse roads . . . ugh.

I actually don't get people who live in DC. DC isn't even that great of a city . . . it isn't a city the same way Chicago, New York, and Boston are cities. Everything closes at 5 when everyone flees the city for the burbs. HORRIBLE shopping, except for Georgetown. And don't get me started on schools. Seriously people - move 10 miles in any direction and send your child to some of the best public schools in the country. It's not worth the hell you go through to get junior into Sidwell.

Worse roads??? When I drove back into Maryland after driving cross country, both DH and I remarked on how nice the roads are here!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in VA and at LEAST I have congress representation...unlike DC peeps...

I grew up in MD and love VA much better. Plus...we have WEGMANS!!

I don't look down or up at any other area...

We have WEGMANS in *gasp* PG county. You need a better argument.

There is even a Wegmans in ..wait for it.. Frederick County!!! yes Wegmans in the stix

Hey, Wegman's in Dumfries, too!!!

This is a bit like celebrating the fact that VA has King's Dominion and DC doesn't. Great to drive to occasionally, but...um....why in the Hell would I want one right next to me again?

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Anonymous wrote:a day honoring Lee and Jackson is not the same as a pro-slavery day, and to assert otherwise is just offensive. two of the greatest military minds in history, whose techniques are studied at military colleges across the globe.

the civil war was 100% about economics, the same as the cause of almost all wars. and of course slavery was a huge part of the wealth of the South.

Lee was a traitor to his country, and betrayed his oath. He's worse than Benedict Arnold. And when I took one of my AA college buddies from Chicago across the river and passed Jefferson Davis Highway, his eyes nearly popped out of his head. Stay classy, Virginia!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I live in DC, and have for 15 years, and I'm not going anywhere. I used to "look down" on Virginians because 1. I didn't know too many and the few who I did know were barely contained religious nutjobs (unfair, I know) and 2. SOMEBODY in that state was voting for all these unapologetically racist winning candidates. Like your current atty general, most of your senators since 1995, a huge chunk of state senators, etc etc etc. And you can't claim it's everybody but NOVA, because for the statewide elections, you need a certain % of NOVA votes to win.

THese elected legislators, judge, and admin types in turn enact/enforce/uphold legislation that is some of the most backward in the nation on a couple of topics, starting with gay rights issues. "Confederate Day." shit like that.

So i think: if you are a corporate atty working on 1100 Penn. Ave, and you can afford to live in any of the 3 jurisdictions, it's sayin' something that you picked ... Virginia.

But as I've mellowed with age and seen more of Virginia (with its McCain/Palin posters still standing strong out there in Warrenton and beyond) ....

I have to give you guys props. Your people are much, much nicer on the whole than the populations of either DC or Maryland. Not even close. More willing to help, kinder, more genteel, more polite.

if you cannot respect people with different political opinions, if you are THAT intolerant, then stay in DC

Exactly, PP. That's what most of the gay folks who have children I know do; they either live in DC or MD. That's because VA has case law that would enable the courts to arbitrarily deny custody to gay parents because of their "filthy, perverse lifestyle." You need to learn to be more tolerant of backwards-ass, homophobia and dog-whistle racism, PP!

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Anonymous wrote:What OP is precisely referring to is DC and MD snobbery toward close-in VA burbs like Alexandria, Arlington and McLean. I think (having lived in both DC and Arlington) it is a question of aesthetics. NWDC, Chevy Chase and Bethesda have many lovely areas with pretty landscaping, forrests, and houses. Arlington is fairly hideous (split levels and ranchers) with a very few pretty pockets like Country Club HIlls and Maywood/Cherrydale but even those areas have some seriously uglies as well. Alexandria is prettier but too many tiny colonials and so inconvenient to everywhere else in the metro area. McLean also has afew pretty pockets but too many McMansions and ranchers. Also, it is an accessibility snobbery - in VA you have to cross a bridge, which is more likely to get backed-up with traffic, to get to the rest of the metro area. Getting stuck crossing a bridge is a serious con to many people.

I see your point on traffic (at least when it comes to rush hour - I don't have trouble on weekends or evenings), but would disagree with your broad brush of aesthetics. There are pockets of Arlington that are indeed those awful ranch and split levels....but far more of Arlington is made up of colonial, arts & crafts, victorian and other styles of homes. Drive around Lyon Village, Ashton Heights, Maywood, Yorktown, Madison Manor, Leeway Heights, Cherrydale and yes neighborhoods like Country Club Hills. The houses and lots may vary in size, but ugly 1970s construction they are not. If your interest and income run more towards townhomes and condos, then Fairlington is just beautiful. The lots are generally smaller than those in parts of MoCo, but it's also generally a more "urban suburban" (if that makes sense) than farther out places. Alexandria also has lots of interesting areas and neighborhoods including Del Ray and Old Town, and south along GW Parkway into the Ffx County portions of Alexandria. I don't know much about McLean so can't speak to it.

No you're not convincing us. Georgetown, Capitol Hill, Spring Valley, CC DC, Forest Hills DC, Normanstone, Bradley Hills, Burdette, CC MD, are all nicer areas than anywhere VA has to offer.

Oh. So the question only concerns the nicest neighborhoods in DC? And you compare those to the houses along Military and Lee because those are - you think - somehow the nicest neighborhoods in NoVa? You guys are nuts. Check out the Ballantrae and Langley Farms neighborhoods in McLean sometime. Then go into the Old Town areas south of King Street with the 18th century homes. Meanwhile, I'm going to go back to Trinidad and Anacostia and see how much nicer they are than Arlington.

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It all sucks. It's the South, without the charm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What OP is precisely referring to is DC and MD snobbery toward close-in VA burbs like Alexandria, Arlington and McLean. I think (having lived in both DC and Arlington) it is a question of aesthetics. NWDC, Chevy Chase and Bethesda have many lovely areas with pretty landscaping, forrests, and houses. Arlington is fairly hideous (split levels and ranchers) with a very few pretty pockets like Country Club HIlls and Maywood/Cherrydale but even those areas have some seriously uglies as well. Alexandria is prettier but too many tiny colonials and so inconvenient to everywhere else in the metro area. McLean also has afew pretty pockets but too many McMansions and ranchers. Also, it is an accessibility snobbery - in VA you have to cross a bridge, which is more likely to get backed-up with traffic, to get to the rest of the metro area. Getting stuck crossing a bridge is a serious con to many people.

I see your point on traffic (at least when it comes to rush hour - I don't have trouble on weekends or evenings), but would disagree with your broad brush of aesthetics. There are pockets of Arlington that are indeed those awful ranch and split levels....but far more of Arlington is made up of colonial, arts & crafts, victorian and other styles of homes. Drive around Lyon Village, Ashton Heights, Maywood, Yorktown, Madison Manor, Leeway Heights, Cherrydale and yes neighborhoods like Country Club Hills. The houses and lots may vary in size, but ugly 1970s construction they are not. If your interest and income run more towards townhomes and condos, then Fairlington is just beautiful. The lots are generally smaller than those in parts of MoCo, but it's also generally a more "urban suburban" (if that makes sense) than farther out places. Alexandria also has lots of interesting areas and neighborhoods including Del Ray and Old Town, and south along GW Parkway into the Ffx County portions of Alexandria. I don't know much about McLean so can't speak to it.

No you're not convincing us. Georgetown, Capitol Hill, Spring Valley, CC DC, Forest Hills DC, Normanstone, Bradley Hills, Burdette, CC MDare all nicer areas than anywhere VA has to offer.

Oh. So the question only concerns the nicest neighborhoods in DC? And you compare those to the houses along Military and Lee because those are - you think - somehow the nicest neighborhoods in NoVa? You guys are nuts. Check out the Ballantrae and Langley Farms neighborhoods in McLean sometime. Then go into the Old Town areas south of King Street with the 18th century homes. Meanwhile, I'm going to go back to Trinidad and Anacostia and see how much nicer they are than Arlington.

Hard to follow huh? This whole thread has been about the nice neighborhoods. How about places off of Columbia Pike in Arlington that look like the set from Man on Fire or the projects in Alexandria or pimmitt hills that looks like trailer park or the MS-13 infested areas of PW county those places all suck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What OP is precisely referring to is DC and MD snobbery toward close-in VA burbs like Alexandria, Arlington and McLean. I think (having lived in both DC and Arlington) it is a question of aesthetics. NWDC, Chevy Chase and Bethesda have many lovely areas with pretty landscaping, forrests, and houses. Arlington is fairly hideous (split levels and ranchers) with a very few pretty pockets like Country Club HIlls and Maywood/Cherrydale but even those areas have some seriously uglies as well. Alexandria is prettier but too many tiny colonials and so inconvenient to everywhere else in the metro area. McLean also has afew pretty pockets but too many McMansions and ranchers. Also, it is an accessibility snobbery - in VA you have to cross a bridge, which is more likely to get backed-up with traffic, to get to the rest of the metro area. Getting stuck crossing a bridge is a serious con to many people.

I see your point on traffic (at least when it comes to rush hour - I don't have trouble on weekends or evenings), but would disagree with your broad brush of aesthetics. There are pockets of Arlington that are indeed those awful ranch and split levels....but far more of Arlington is made up of colonial, arts & crafts, victorian and other styles of homes. Drive around Lyon Village, Ashton Heights, Maywood, Yorktown, Madison Manor, Leeway Heights, Cherrydale and yes neighborhoods like Country Club Hills. The houses and lots may vary in size, but ugly 1970s construction they are not. If your interest and income run more towards townhomes and condos, then Fairlington is just beautiful. The lots are generally smaller than those in parts of MoCo, but it's also generally a more "urban suburban" (if that makes sense) than farther out places. Alexandria also has lots of interesting areas and neighborhoods including Del Ray and Old Town, and south along GW Parkway into the Ffx County portions of Alexandria. I don't know much about McLean so can't speak to it.

No you're not convincing us. Georgetown, Capitol Hill, Spring Valley, CC DC, Forest Hills DC, Normanstone, Bradley Hills, Burdette, CC MDare all nicer areas than anywhere VA has to offer.

Oh. So the question only concerns the nicest neighborhoods in DC? And you compare those to the houses along Military and Lee because those are - you think - somehow the nicest neighborhoods in NoVa? You guys are nuts. Check out the Ballantrae and Langley Farms neighborhoods in McLean sometime. Then go into the Old Town areas south of King Street with the 18th century homes. Meanwhile, I'm going to go back to Trinidad and Anacostia and see how much nicer they are than Arlington.

Hard to follow huh? This whole thread has been about the nice neighborhoods. How about places off of Columbia Pike in Arlington that look like the set from Man on Fire or the projects in Alexandria or pimmitt hills that looks like trailer park or the MS-13 infested areas of PW county those places all suck.

My point was only that the "DC/MD neighborhoods are so much better" are comparing apples and oranges. Try comparing neighborhoods where the houses have similar price points, but they act as though there are no homes in NoVa that go are sold for several million dollars.