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Anonymous
Gingrich lost shutdown #1 with his "Waah they put me on the back of Air Force One" comments. Don't forget Mitch "Our primary goal is to ensure Obama is a one-term President" McConnell may also insert his foot in his mouth as well. But as long as the symbolism of frugality is present, I guess that's all you care about. Hassle workers for printing in color, but don't do squat about Social Security. |
Anonymous
| If the shutdown is less than five days and results in additional budget cuts, Rs win. If there are no additional cuts both sides lose. If the shutdown goes more than one work week, so that Americans start to feel the effects of the shutdown and the Rs don't get significant budget cuts, Ds win. Those are my unscientific predictions. |
Anonymous
Maybe but it didn't affect me during the first govt. shutdown. The Republicans will use this to make Obama look foolish and inept, which isn't hard to do, and then Republicans will come back and say, "because we don't want to hurt Americans we have been forced to give into the President's demands." This makes them look good and a very good plank for the GOP platform for the 2012 campaign. |
Anonymous
I haven't seen demands from Obama, I've seen offers. I wish he had the balls to make demands. |
Anonymous
It makes no difference whether they are termed "offers" or not, because Boehner, McConnell, and Cos. will label them "DEMANDS." I hope in 2012 an Independent canidate will be chosen who is testicullarly equipped, whether male or female, and will win. This person will not be Obama. |
Anonymous
| Anyone care to revise their predictions now that we're drawing closer? |
Anonymous
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From everything I have come across this is what I have:
1. (Shutdown takes place) If the Republicans can figure a way to shut the government down for a week and blame it on the Democrats, and show off as cost cutters to their constituents, the shutdown can happen for a week. 1a. We can come back from a shut down into a CR, which continues the problem. 1b. A budget agreement is finalized. 2. (Shutdown i averted) If the Democrats can yield way more than their logic tells them they should, they can show that they are all about working with the Republicans for the "greater good," and a shutdown will not happen, but it can go two ways. 2a. There is a 'several weeks' CR followed by yet another threat of a shutdown. 2b. A budget agreement is finalized. 1a and 2a delay resolution on the problem. |
Anonymous
| My bet is a four day shutdown that becomes like a furlough but there is always the chance federal employees will be paid after the fact for those days. I give the latter a 50/50 chance. |
Anonymous
Even though I am low on leave and a couple of days off would do wonders for personal time, something that affects so many unwitting victims like a gov shutdown is a sad case period. There are all types of people who will suffer from a shutdown. My question is has anyone done the math of the various pros and cons for dems and republicans? |
Anonymous
| My prediction is a two week CR and then a shutdown |
Anonymous
A two week CR does give both parties lots of time to maneuver on their positions and could give both parties time to come up with good reasons why they can blame the other party for a shutdown. |
Anonymous
This one's looking more and more likely. |
Anonymous
I agree |
Anonymous
| The bottom line is that spending needs to go back to 2007 levels and then cut 10% across the board to even pretend to avoid a real crisis. However that happens who cares. If it doesn't buy gold and commodities and get the f... Out of stocks and bonds. |
Anonymous
| I'm betting a CR until 3/18 or 3/31 than shut down for a 2-4 weeks. |