2011 Admissions Results -- Links to Google doc are in 1st post on page 1

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Might want to get some ideas from College confidential. You could start a thread for each school and then have participants list grade applied for.

Relevant info would be:

Tests scores: IQ and SSAT's
Grades:

Teacher recs
Special talent
Diversity, faculty, sibling, legacy or other tips

Here is a link to a template
http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/brown-university/895009-official-brown-university-class-2014-rd-results.html


ICK ! This is a difficult time of year. Each rejection and wait list letter ends with the statement, " thank you for respecting the integrity of this process" That is a subtle hint to NOT DO exactly what is outlined in the above post.Really, think about it: If your child is rejected it really doesn't matter as no amount of intellectualizing as to why is going to help get rid of that lump in your throat. If you are lucky enough to have your DC accepted, why gloat here as your friends and family will be happy for you and who else matters. certainly not a bunch of anonymous voyeuristic people.
Anonymous
Maybe the schools should just post the acceptances and rejections here so everyone can read like the do for the drama tryouts at school
Anonymous
Go 4:26! I agree. What's the point of a thread on this?
Anonymous
make it stop! of course there's going to be a thread on this, but can't this wait until March?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Go 4:26! I agree. What's the point of a thread on this?

It seems to happen every year, so it's really inevitable. People have just been through a long and stressful process, and when it's over they want to talk through it and share experiences. At its best, it's a way to celebrate and congratulate small victories, and to commiserate over losses. People are also curious how they compare to other applicants, suss out waitlist possibilities, and ask questions about how the process works. Sure, it's got potential for ugliness. But take a look at last year's thread -- http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/95625.page -- it's pretty positive and informative, with surprisingly little negativity over 17 pages.
Anonymous
Thanks for the perspective, 12:14.
Anonymous
I meant 13:14. Last year's thread started on MARCH 5!
SAM2
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OK, I found some time to create a short survey. Here is a beta-test version: https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dFFHRklQWDFuOWNaSlMtdlRPd3hORmc6MA . What I need now is people to enter data so I can see how it works. Please take a moment to answer the questions. Think about it this way ... How often do you get to report that your academically challenged child was admitted to every school where he applied? Or how often do you get to flag yourself as a big-donor VIP, whose 99th percentile child was rejected by every school in town?

I don't have experience drafting surveys, so if you can think of a better structure, I'm happy to hear it (as long as it's not too much work). Thanks for your input.

ETA: Here are what the results look like: https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewanalytics?formkey=dFFHRklQWDFuOWNaSlMtdlRPd3hORmc6MA
Anonymous
Thanks, SAM2. This will be interesting!
Anonymous
As a parent of 3, who's been through this process 4 times, with 2 different schools, this idea makes me cringe. I just think it will generate more heat than light. I don't doubt your good intentions, SAHM2, but what you're proposing sounds like the data bases that many of the large public high schools in the area set up for college admissions info. I know of several parents and teens who put a lot of faith into thiese systems, figuring that "if X students got into Y university with SAT scores and GPAs similar to mine, then I should get in too", and who were disappointed when the data didn't match up with their experiences. This is likely to be even more the case with independent schools, where the applicant pool for any school will be too small to yield statistically significant data. Moreover, I think admissions decisions are based largely on nuances that can't fit into a survey or data grid. Really, this way lies madness.
SAM2
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Anonymous wrote:... what you're proposing sounds like the data bases that many of the large public high schools in the area set up for college admissions info. I know of several parents and teens who put a lot of faith into thiese systems ... and who were disappointed when the data didn't match up with their experiences. This is likely to be even more the case with independent schools, where the applicant pool for any school will be too small to yield statistically significant data. Moreover, I think admissions decisions are based largely on nuances that can't fit into a survey or data grid.

I understand your fear about over-reliance on data, and I agree with you about nuances. But this same reporting already occurs every year on DCUM -- I'm just trying to create a mechanism that will capture and summarize the data in some organized fashion. Also, neither of us really know what these bits of data might suggest. You are concerned that people will think they see a clear pattern in the data that suggests how admissions decisions are made -- I wonder whether we might all be surprised to discovery that there is no clear pattern or "code" (which would support the "decisions based on nuances" point).

Sam2
Anonymous
No objection on principle, but since you already have 8 responses, many of which list schools which haven't sent out notifications yet, I don't think this can be labeled "2011 admissions results"!
Anonymous
Thx Sam2 - will check in after the 4th
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No objection on principle, but since you already have 8 responses, many of which list schools which haven't sent out notifications yet, I don't think this can be labeled "2011 admissions results"!


I think those results are the made up ones that SAM2 asked people to submit as a beta-test. I'm sure they will be erased shortly before real results begin to come in.
Anonymous
And I'm also sure that some of the real results will be fake results. A crucial difference between the local HS dbs and this one is that the HSs have the ability to verify at least some of the information submitted (identity, admissions, SATs, GPA). And, presumably, those dbs include the whole sample rather than self-selected respondents.

This data (whether it shows patterns or not) will be garbage.
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