
I think some do that. I believe that the PTO manages their employees to output targets. But quotas are not easy to set in many jobs, which is why the private sector only uses them in certain areas as well. |
The Government is bankrupt. It needs layoffs, salary reductions, cutbacks and they need to to more with less like the private sector does. Nothing against the goverment but it is temporarily not living in reality. Reality will not be avoided very long. This is gonna get ugly. |
WTH?! We are hemming-n-hawwing over pennies, relatively. Do folks really have a clue what the actions of the exec branch would do? Here is a snippet -- according to the Partnership's M. Stier, if the government cut 10 percent of the fed workforce - about 200,000 employees - as rec by the president's deficit commission and contracted out those jobs to the private sector, the savings could be minimal or it could actually cost us more! If govt employees are not replaced and their salaries are returned to the Treasury, the government would save at most $20 billion annually, or roughly 0.5 percent of total budget outlays. Budget experts know that we cannot come close to balancing the budget simply by cutting feds and their salaries. Folks, there are bigger fish to fry -- this is all about optics and political sensationalism to appease a few crack heads who just moved in next door. Certainly not the time to pit the private sec against the fed sec. -- we're all going to feel this pain...
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You can't possibly know this, and you make yourself look really silly when you say that. It is like saying that black people are ugly because you used to live next to one once and he was really hideous. So you interned for the feds for awhile. That doesn't make you an expert on federal workforce productivity. All it means is that you got a short snapshot of the small office inside the directorate at one particular agency. That is what is known as an anecdote. Look up the definition in the dictionary, so you aren't confused by the difference between anecdotes and thorough analysis. The agency I work at is filled with high-flying workaholics that work easily 60 hours a week, 7 days a week. |
I think the work ethic varies, and it has a lot to do with whether you are in a job that makes you marketable later in the private sector, or whether you plan to be at more or less the same desk for your career. For instance, time speant in Treasury or Justice makes you valuable once you leave. That's different. |
So let me get this straight. The only reason that a Federal employee could possibly have a good work ethic is if they're somehow salivating over an eventual private sector position?!? Is this post for real?? Here's a clue. I'm a Federal employee and I love my job. The work is interesting and I do it because I want to and because I believe in our mission. I work 10 hour days (including many weekends), I don't make a ton of money and I have ZERO interest in ever working for the private sector. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. |
A very important point made by the OP is that many federal workers took significant pay cuts many years ago. They traded high pay for job security and good benefits, and now people who made the opposite trade want to cry foul. I have a lot of job security now as a government lawyer, but eight years ago when I left a big nyc law firm and cut my pay in half, no one wanted my job then. |
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That is the most inept analogy I've ever heard. Most of the people posting here are not automotive workers -- some who chose to unionize and some who did not -- with those who did not now insulting unionized auto workers because the unionized workers made a better choice than they did. No. People posting here are in what we generally refer to as learned professions. Some of us chose to practice our professions within the federal government. The greedy ones opted for the private sector. And right now, it looks like those who opted for the federal government made the better choice. And yes, you're jealous. But go ahead and continue with your lame analogies if it makes you sleep better at night. |
Because most federal employees are L-A-Z-Y. You really don't get it? Seriously? |
Because it is easier for people to scapegoat other individual people or groups of people than to understand that larger forces are to blame. The same reason why Puritans burned single women at the stake as witches if there was a drought. |
Are there any statistics demonstrating feds are lazier than other employees? Or are they only lazy because they put in 40-45 a week and aren't taking calls on the weekend all the time? |
My fed DH is a mix of that. He only does a 40 hour work week in the office, but he's pretty connected by e-mail and phone when he's off, in case a problem arises. And he works for a 24/7 operation, so he gets calls at all hours. |
The analogy is fine. The contention is that posters are because critical of federal workers, therefore they must be jealous. The obvious example that disproves it is auto workers. Posters frequently criticize auto workers for their salary, the union work rules that make it so hard to get fired, their generous pensions, the fact that the government ensured their employment during this crisis. And yet no one would say we are jealous of them. It is not inept, it is spot on. If we lived in an area with a lot of auto workers and they ran across an OP complaining about the bailout, I am 100% certain that one of them would have accused the OP of being jealous. The key difference is that you are not an auto worker, and therefore it sounds absurd to you. |