Why are heaven or hell the only options

[Anonymous]

You have to come to a conclusion about what you think is actually true. Otherwise, you are just making things up in your head.

For me, after exploring different religions and systems of belief, I came to the conclusion that Christianity was most likely to be true — not 100% convinced, but at the same confidence level that I make any other important life decision (which is always less than 100%).

Hell is one of the Christian doctrines that makes the most sense to me. If there is no hell at all, no final judgment, then there is really no basis for any moral obligation. We can just act however we want, no matter how terrible or cruel it is. The current occupant of the White House is exhibit A of the horrible place where this leads. That way of looking at the world doesn’t seem like any way to live.

Also, trying to “delete” hell from Christianity is a very western way of looking at the world. People living in oppressive regimes care a lot more about a God of justice making things right in the end than a God who just loves everyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You have to come to a conclusion about what you think is actually true. Otherwise, you are just making things up in your head.

For me, after exploring different religions and systems of belief, I came to the conclusion that Christianity was most likely to be true — not 100% convinced, but at the same confidence level that I make any other important life decision (which is always less than 100%).

Hell is one of the Christian doctrines that makes the most sense to me. If there is no hell at all, no final judgment, then there is really no basis for any moral obligation. We can just act however we want, no matter how terrible or cruel it is. The current occupant of the White House is exhibit A of the horrible place where this leads. That way of looking at the world doesn’t seem like any way to live.

Also, trying to “delete” hell from Christianity is a very western way of looking at the world. People living in oppressive regimes care a lot more about a God of justice making things right in the end than a God who just loves everyone.

Completely agree with all of this. Christianity, while difficult to come to terms with, makes as much sense as any other belief system, and more so than many. It's also the only one that has some level of historical and anthropological back up supporting it.

And I agree that the afterlife is where all of this will play out. There is no reason for any moral or legal code on earth whatsoever without that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You have to come to a conclusion about what you think is actually true. Otherwise, you are just making things up in your head.

For me, after exploring different religions and systems of belief, I came to the conclusion that Christianity was most likely to be true — not 100% convinced, but at the same confidence level that I make any other important life decision (which is always less than 100%).

Hell is one of the Christian doctrines that makes the most sense to me. If there is no hell at all, no final judgment, then there is really no basis for any moral obligation. We can just act however we want, no matter how terrible or cruel it is. The current occupant of the White House is exhibit A of the horrible place where this leads. That way of looking at the world doesn’t seem like any way to live.

Also, trying to “delete” hell from Christianity is a very western way of looking at the world. People living in oppressive regimes care a lot more about a God of justice making things right in the end than a God who just loves everyone.

The issue is that some people cannot think in shades of grey and they need the idiotic simplicity of two extremes when neither fits the bill for 99.9% of the souls in the world.
Your TDS is an excellent example of this dim witted lack of critical thinking process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, sitting on purgatory dreading hell must he hell itself.

if enough people pray for you, maybe you can go to heaven. The nuns at my catholic school had us praying for aborted fetuses to get to heaven. weird.

I didn’t know that! Aborted fetuses carry original sin from conception? Original sin is from Eve eating the apple in Eden? Is there a metaphorical way to explain original sin or is it taken literally for Catholics?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You have to come to a conclusion about what you think is actually true. Otherwise, you are just making things up in your head.

For me, after exploring different religions and systems of belief, I came to the conclusion that Christianity was most likely to be true — not 100% convinced, but at the same confidence level that I make any other important life decision (which is always less than 100%).

Hell is one of the Christian doctrines that makes the most sense to me. If there is no hell at all, no final judgment, then there is really no basis for any moral obligation. We can just act however we want, no matter how terrible or cruel it is. The current occupant of the White House is exhibit A of the horrible place where this leads. That way of looking at the world doesn’t seem like any way to live.

Also, trying to “delete” hell from Christianity is a very western way of looking at the world. People living in oppressive regimes care a lot more about a God of justice making things right in the end than a God who just loves everyone.

What brought you to that caonclusion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, Heaven and Hell are simply place descriptors for being with God or away from God, forever. There is no in between. You are either redeemed of your earthly sin or you are not.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ridiculous to think that you can only choose between those 2 options once you die.
Surely the other side has multiple options on how to be. With each option having their own leaders and entrance requirements.
There are numerous benefits anyway.

What is the other side? What are their options? Sort of vague posting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I mostly like my religion but this is where I get confused, on one side God claims to be merciful and love each of us many times more than any mother can and on other side, he can't take disobedience and feels like people should burn in hell.

God’s nature includes mercy, justice, compassion, and forgiveness — not just punishment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mostly like my religion but this is where I get confused, on one side God claims to be merciful and love each of us many times more than any mother can and on other side, he can't take disobedience and feels like people should burn in hell.

It’s not that he “can’t take disobedience.”

God is by definition perfect. There can be no sin in His presence. You make the choice between remaining in a sinful state or seeking the redemption he offers.

That's just your belief, not definitively true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You have to come to a conclusion about what you think is actually true. Otherwise, you are just making things up in your head.

For me, after exploring different religions and systems of belief, I came to the conclusion that Christianity was most likely to be true — not 100% convinced, but at the same confidence level that I make any other important life decision (which is always less than 100%).

Hell is one of the Christian doctrines that makes the most sense to me. If there is no hell at all, no final judgment, then there is really no basis for any moral obligation. We can just act however we want, no matter how terrible or cruel it is. The current occupant of the White House is exhibit A of the horrible place where this leads. That way of looking at the world doesn’t seem like any way to live.

Also, trying to “delete” hell from Christianity is a very western way of looking at the world. People living in oppressive regimes care a lot more about a God of justice making things right in the end than a God who just loves everyone.

The issue is that some people cannot think in shades of grey and they need the idiotic simplicity of two extremes when neither fits the bill for 99.9% of the souls in the world.
Your TDS is an excellent example of this dim witted lack of critical thinking process.

Oh, the irony.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mostly like my religion but this is where I get confused, on one side God claims to be merciful and love each of us many times more than any mother can and on other side, he can't take disobedience and feels like people should burn in hell.

It’s not that he “can’t take disobedience.”

God is by definition perfect. There can be no sin in His presence. You make the choice between remaining in a sinful state or seeking the redemption he offers.

That's just your belief, not definitively true.

It is true to people who believe in God.

[Anonymous]

"I was a medium person. I should get to spend eternity in a medium place. Like Cincinnati."

— Eleanor Shellstrop

[Anonymous]

THE BIG SLEEP!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mostly like my religion but this is where I get confused, on one side God claims to be merciful and love each of us many times more than any mother can and on other side, he can't take disobedience and feels like people should burn in hell.

It’s not that he “can’t take disobedience.”

God is by definition perfect. There can be no sin in His presence. You make the choice between remaining in a sinful state or seeking the redemption he offers.

That's just your belief, not definitively true.

It is true to people who believe in God.

No, this is incorrect. Whether or not you believe something has absolutely no affect on whether it is true or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"I was a medium person. I should get to spend eternity in a medium place. Like Cincinnati."

— Eleanor Shellstrop

Exactly! That was the first thing that crossed my mind when I read the thread title.
Honestly the Good Place is one of the most interesting and deep sitcoms ever made. And it makes a lot of sense!