Anti-Immigrant Rhetoric

[Anonymous]

just as easy as having proof of insurance

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How exactly would YOU prove your citizenship if you were in an accident? Would you run home first and get your passport?

You know, conservatives are so two-faced on this. You want proof of citizenship but only a few years ago you called RealID an intrusion on freedom-loving Americans. And forget about national ID. You would rather have a world where only illegals are harassed but forget that there are millions of Hispanic citizens who look just like the leople you want to round up.

So maybe you could do some work within your own party to fix some thinking.

Go to Hyde Park and get on your soapbos. Your argument is crap.

No it's not. We need ID if you want good enforcement. All of us. What's the problem with that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:just as easy as having proof of insurance

It would be if the states would make a secure ID. Guess which state, among many, refused? AZ.

[Anonymous]

Heart attack would entail a long hospital stay. Plenty of time to check legal residency. Maybe relatives can post bail to release illegal from detention to pay medical bills.

[Anonymous]

Social security number would b fine. With a federal database check.

[Anonymous]

The detention area should be kept up to Mexican safety and hygeine standards so that it is UN approved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Social security number would b fine. With a federal database check.

A social security number is not identification. It is a number. You can get one anywhere. How are you supposed to know whether the person is the real individual issued the SSN? The numbers are issued at birth. There are no photos, no fingerprints, nothing. So you run the database check and it comes back that yes, there is a Jose Cancion who is about 40 years old. What do you do now?

[Anonymous]

you use the IRS meathod. You don't have to catch all illegals, you just have to make life miserable for a decent portion of them so that they are afraid to go to the hospital and begin to think about returning home.

[Anonymous]

no insurance means a detailed investigation of citizenship right off the bat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:you use the IRS meathod. You don't have to catch all illegals, you just have to make life miserable for a decent portion of them so that they are afraid to go to the hospital and begin to think about returning home.

If you make it miserable for a decent portion of hispanic legal immigrants, and some of them end up not getting treated, your whole plan blows up. Americans don't like negligence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:you use the IRS meathod. You don't have to catch all illegals, you just have to make life miserable for a decent portion of them so that they are afraid to go to the hospital and begin to think about returning home.

If you make it miserable for a decent portion of hispanic legal immigrants, and some of them end up not getting treated, your whole plan blows up. Americans don't like negligence.

They can get all the treatment they want, it's their choice. They may just have to be detained, fined and deported after treatment. If they choose to continue illegal activity instead of treatment thats their problem. And they can always go home to their own country and get treatment.

[Anonymous]

Some people die from the stress the IRS puts on them. I don't see Americans blowing up the IRS's plans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some people die from the stress the IRS puts on them. I don't see Americans blowing up the IRS's plans.

Not the same as refusing medical treatment because of a clerical error.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How exactly would YOU prove your citizenship if you were in an accident? Would you run home first and get your passport?

You know, conservatives are so two-faced on this. You want proof of citizenship but only a few years ago you called RealID an intrusion on freedom-loving Americans. And forget about national ID. You would rather have a world where only illegals are harassed but forget that there are millions of Hispanic citizens who look just like the leople you want to round up.

So maybe you could do some work within your own party to fix some thinking.

Go to Hyde Park and get on your soapbos. Your argument is crap.

Compelling rebuttal. Well done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:you use the IRS meathod. You don't have to catch all illegals, you just have to make life miserable for a decent portion of them so that they are afraid to go to the hospital and begin to think about returning home.

If you make it miserable for a decent portion of hispanic legal immigrants, and some of them end up not getting treated, your whole plan blows up. Americans don't like negligence.

They can get all the treatment they want, it's their choice. They may just have to be detained, fined and deported after treatment. If they choose to continue illegal activity instead of treatment thats their problem. And they can always go home to their own country and get treatment.

I'm not worried about the illegals. I'm worried about a guy who can't get seen in the ER because of the backlog of people who can't be discharged until their citizenship check is done. They would have to do it on everyone. Or would they be allowed to skip it if the people look American enough?

It would be a heck of a lot easier if we would just issue a reliable ID card. Why we refuse to do it is beyond me. Apparently some Republicans think your actions will be tracked with it. To me, who cares? Every time you pull out a credit card, your actions are tracked. Every time you turn on a cell phone, your location is recorded. That EZ Pass allows you to be tracked anywhere they choose to read it, grocery store card, the Smartrip card. They all track where you are and what you do. So I hardly care if some database knows I opened a bank account or got my ID checked at a bar or went to the ER (which as we all know goes into about ten different databases).