Children's National Hospital wants to move

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They probably want to move to NOVA or Howard County where they don't have to serve so many poor people.

Their primary care clinics throughout the city, which see mostly kids on Medicaid, are excellent. What makes you think that they want to avoid serving poor people?

Because it's not profitable to see Medicaid patients.

[Anonymous]

Folks, it's stressful to get to the current location from certain parts of town.

Wherever they move will have the same problem.

People who live close to the current location do not find it hard to get there. If you live in Petworth, Brookland, Capitol Hill, etc., the current location is pretty great. If you live across the river or Georgetown, it's a pain. But moving it to another neighborhood doesn't solve this problem, it just shifts who it is convenient for and who it's not convenient for.

Also the people complaining about the difficulty of reaching the current location and the parking garage in the same breath are working at cross purposes. A more central location would make it more accessible by public transit, but would likely make parking even worse than it currently is. You also have to think about emergency vehicle traffic -- the current location can be a pain to drive to but there are advantages of being near the junction of two major thoroughfares with multiple lanes, because it makes it easier for ambulances to get to there.

One of the major features of Children's is that it is the only Trauma 1 level children's ER in the entire region. So ER accessibility is really important, more so than access to specialists, sadly for those of us whose kids need to see specialists there frequently!

Hospital location can be really difficult. I am not sure I can think of a site elsewhere in the city that is obviously superior to their current site, even though I totally understand what is not ideal about the current site.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They probably want to move to NOVA or Howard County where they don't have to serve so many poor people.

Their primary care clinics throughout the city, which see mostly kids on Medicaid, are excellent. What makes you think that they want to avoid serving poor people?

Because it's not profitable to see Medicaid patients.

Children's doesn't think about these matters quite the way a regular hospital would. As a pediatric hospital, they are truly the only game in town for a lot of what they do. Serving Medicaid patients may not be as profitable but it's also often the only source of healthcare for many kids in this area, they are not going to abandon those kids. Likewise, rich kids who need specialized pediatric care often have no other options anyway, so they will travel a distance to go to Children's because it may be the only place they can access certain specialists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Folks, it's stressful to get to the current location from certain parts of town.

Wherever they move will have the same problem.

People who live close to the current location do not find it hard to get there. If you live in Petworth, Brookland, Capitol Hill, etc., the current location is pretty great. If you live across the river or Georgetown, it's a pain. But moving it to another neighborhood doesn't solve this problem, it just shifts who it is convenient for and who it's not convenient for.

Also the people complaining about the difficulty of reaching the current location and the parking garage in the same breath are working at cross purposes. A more central location would make it more accessible by public transit, but would likely make parking even worse than it currently is. You also have to think about emergency vehicle traffic -- the current location can be a pain to drive to but there are advantages of being near the junction of two major thoroughfares with multiple lanes, because it makes it easier for ambulances to get to there.

One of the major features of Children's is that it is the only Trauma 1 level children's ER in the entire region. So ER accessibility is really important, more so than access to specialists, sadly for those of us whose kids need to see specialists there frequently!

Hospital location can be really difficult. I am not sure I can think of a site elsewhere in the city that is obviously superior to their current site, even though I totally understand what is not ideal about the current site.

You are assuming they don't want to move further away from certain populations. Make it harder for the poor to access care, easier for the wealthy. I've got my money on Sibley or another suburban hospital.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Folks, it's stressful to get to the current location from certain parts of town.

Wherever they move will have the same problem.

People who live close to the current location do not find it hard to get there. If you live in Petworth, Brookland, Capitol Hill, etc., the current location is pretty great. If you live across the river or Georgetown, it's a pain. But moving it to another neighborhood doesn't solve this problem, it just shifts who it is convenient for and who it's not convenient for.

Also the people complaining about the difficulty of reaching the current location and the parking garage in the same breath are working at cross purposes. A more central location would make it more accessible by public transit, but would likely make parking even worse than it currently is. You also have to think about emergency vehicle traffic -- the current location can be a pain to drive to but there are advantages of being near the junction of two major thoroughfares with multiple lanes, because it makes it easier for ambulances to get to there.

One of the major features of Children's is that it is the only Trauma 1 level children's ER in the entire region. So ER accessibility is really important, more so than access to specialists, sadly for those of us whose kids need to see specialists there frequently!

Hospital location can be really difficult. I am not sure I can think of a site elsewhere in the city that is obviously superior to their current site, even though I totally understand what is not ideal about the current site.

Is INOVA Childrens in Fairfax not Level 1 Trauma? (I'm unsure).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Folks, it's stressful to get to the current location from certain parts of town.

Wherever they move will have the same problem.

People who live close to the current location do not find it hard to get there. If you live in Petworth, Brookland, Capitol Hill, etc., the current location is pretty great. If you live across the river or Georgetown, it's a pain. But moving it to another neighborhood doesn't solve this problem, it just shifts who it is convenient for and who it's not convenient for.

Also the people complaining about the difficulty of reaching the current location and the parking garage in the same breath are working at cross purposes. A more central location would make it more accessible by public transit, but would likely make parking even worse than it currently is. You also have to think about emergency vehicle traffic -- the current location can be a pain to drive to but there are advantages of being near the junction of two major thoroughfares with multiple lanes, because it makes it easier for ambulances to get to there.

One of the major features of Children's is that it is the only Trauma 1 level children's ER in the entire region. So ER accessibility is really important, more so than access to specialists, sadly for those of us whose kids need to see specialists there frequently!

Hospital location can be really difficult. I am not sure I can think of a site elsewhere in the city that is obviously superior to their current site, even though I totally understand what is not ideal about the current site.

Is INOVA Childrens in Fairfax not Level 1 Trauma? (I'm unsure).

It is...🤷‍♀️ I guess it's not considered in the region by the author?

[Anonymous]

St Elizabeth campus, or mixed use with the new stadium?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Link? Why do they want to move? What is wrong with their current location?

Selfishly I would prefer they stay where they are because we live on the east side and it's reassuring to me to know they are not too hard to get to. When we have had to go to the emergency room for an adult, it sucks from where we live, and that would be so much worse with a kid in a medical emergency.

But just for access to specialists, I'm more neutral. The current location is convenient, but I've gone much further for specialists appointments so that's not as big of a deal. The main issue is the ER and being in a central location accessible from many parts of town.

For people who don't use it as a general hospital, its painful to get to, especially since so many of Children's patients have to see specialists several times a month or year AT least. Its so stressful just getting there.

It is literally in the dead center of the entire Metropolitan area. What are you talking about? There could be no more fair a location for all potential patients.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Folks, it's stressful to get to the current location from certain parts of town.

Wherever they move will have the same problem.

People who live close to the current location do not find it hard to get there. If you live in Petworth, Brookland, Capitol Hill, etc., the current location is pretty great. If you live across the river or Georgetown, it's a pain. But moving it to another neighborhood doesn't solve this problem, it just shifts who it is convenient for and who it's not convenient for.

Also the people complaining about the difficulty of reaching the current location and the parking garage in the same breath are working at cross purposes. A more central location would make it more accessible by public transit, but would likely make parking even worse than it currently is. You also have to think about emergency vehicle traffic -- the current location can be a pain to drive to but there are advantages of being near the junction of two major thoroughfares with multiple lanes, because it makes it easier for ambulances to get to there.

One of the major features of Children's is that it is the only Trauma 1 level children's ER in the entire region. So ER accessibility is really important, more so than access to specialists, sadly for those of us whose kids need to see specialists there frequently!

Hospital location can be really difficult. I am not sure I can think of a site elsewhere in the city that is obviously superior to their current site, even though I totally understand what is not ideal about the current site.

You are assuming they don't want to move further away from certain populations. Make it harder for the poor to access care, easier for the wealthy. I've got my money on Sibley or another suburban hospital.

Revising my prediction - it's not going to Maryland since Maryland essentially made their hospitals socialized medicine with their All-Payer model.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:St Elizabeth campus, or mixed use with the new stadium?

Lol could you imagine the chaos? Football game and emergency transports.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Folks, it's stressful to get to the current location from certain parts of town.

Wherever they move will have the same problem.

People who live close to the current location do not find it hard to get there. If you live in Petworth, Brookland, Capitol Hill, etc., the current location is pretty great. If you live across the river or Georgetown, it's a pain. But moving it to another neighborhood doesn't solve this problem, it just shifts who it is convenient for and who it's not convenient for.

Also the people complaining about the difficulty of reaching the current location and the parking garage in the same breath are working at cross purposes. A more central location would make it more accessible by public transit, but would likely make parking even worse than it currently is. You also have to think about emergency vehicle traffic -- the current location can be a pain to drive to but there are advantages of being near the junction of two major thoroughfares with multiple lanes, because it makes it easier for ambulances to get to there.

One of the major features of Children's is that it is the only Trauma 1 level children's ER in the entire region. So ER accessibility is really important, more so than access to specialists, sadly for those of us whose kids need to see specialists there frequently!

Hospital location can be really difficult. I am not sure I can think of a site elsewhere in the city that is obviously superior to their current site, even though I totally understand what is not ideal about the current site.

You are assuming they don't want to move further away from certain populations. Make it harder for the poor to access care, easier for the wealthy. I've got my money on Sibley or another suburban hospital.

You think Children's Hospital is going to move to Sibley? Not a chance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Folks, it's stressful to get to the current location from certain parts of town.

Wherever they move will have the same problem.

People who live close to the current location do not find it hard to get there. If you live in Petworth, Brookland, Capitol Hill, etc., the current location is pretty great. If you live across the river or Georgetown, it's a pain. But moving it to another neighborhood doesn't solve this problem, it just shifts who it is convenient for and who it's not convenient for.

Also the people complaining about the difficulty of reaching the current location and the parking garage in the same breath are working at cross purposes. A more central location would make it more accessible by public transit, but would likely make parking even worse than it currently is. You also have to think about emergency vehicle traffic -- the current location can be a pain to drive to but there are advantages of being near the junction of two major thoroughfares with multiple lanes, because it makes it easier for ambulances to get to there.

One of the major features of Children's is that it is the only Trauma 1 level children's ER in the entire region. So ER accessibility is really important, more so than access to specialists, sadly for those of us whose kids need to see specialists there frequently!

Hospital location can be really difficult. I am not sure I can think of a site elsewhere in the city that is obviously superior to their current site, even though I totally understand what is not ideal about the current site.

You are assuming they don't want to move further away from certain populations. Make it harder for the poor to access care, easier for the wealthy. I've got my money on Sibley or another suburban hospital.

Revising my prediction - it's not going to Maryland since Maryland essentially made their hospitals socialized medicine with their All-Payer model.

You might want to inform the multiple Children's satellite locations right in the middle of Silver Spring.

[Anonymous]

Virginia caps medmal claims and has for years, meaning doctors and hospitals want to be there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Link? Why do they want to move? What is wrong with their current location?

Selfishly I would prefer they stay where they are because we live on the east side and it's reassuring to me to know they are not too hard to get to. When we have had to go to the emergency room for an adult, it sucks from where we live, and that would be so much worse with a kid in a medical emergency.

But just for access to specialists, I'm more neutral. The current location is convenient, but I've gone much further for specialists appointments so that's not as big of a deal. The main issue is the ER and being in a central location accessible from many parts of town.

For people who don't use it as a general hospital, its painful to get to, especially since so many of Children's patients have to see specialists several times a month or year AT least. Its so stressful just getting there.

It is literally in the dead center of the entire Metropolitan area. What are you talking about? There could be no more fair a location for all potential patients.

It takes us 45 minutes everytime. We are equal distant to Children's INOVA, but it takes us just 15 to get there. It might be "dead center" but the roads are slow and filled with traffic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Folks, it's stressful to get to the current location from certain parts of town.

Wherever they move will have the same problem.

People who live close to the current location do not find it hard to get there. If you live in Petworth, Brookland, Capitol Hill, etc., the current location is pretty great. If you live across the river or Georgetown, it's a pain. But moving it to another neighborhood doesn't solve this problem, it just shifts who it is convenient for and who it's not convenient for.

Also the people complaining about the difficulty of reaching the current location and the parking garage in the same breath are working at cross purposes. A more central location would make it more accessible by public transit, but would likely make parking even worse than it currently is. You also have to think about emergency vehicle traffic -- the current location can be a pain to drive to but there are advantages of being near the junction of two major thoroughfares with multiple lanes, because it makes it easier for ambulances to get to there.

One of the major features of Children's is that it is the only Trauma 1 level children's ER in the entire region. So ER accessibility is really important, more so than access to specialists, sadly for those of us whose kids need to see specialists there frequently!

Hospital location can be really difficult. I am not sure I can think of a site elsewhere in the city that is obviously superior to their current site, even though I totally understand what is not ideal about the current site.

You are assuming they don't want to move further away from certain populations. Make it harder for the poor to access care, easier for the wealthy. I've got my money on Sibley or another suburban hospital.

Revising my prediction - it's not going to Maryland since Maryland essentially made their hospitals socialized medicine with their All-Payer model.

You might want to inform the multiple Children's satellite locations right in the middle of Silver Spring.

The socialism is just among hospitals and not individual clinics.