Working in big tech and the writing on the wall for our kids

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not just big tech. I don’t understand what jobs and fields will be open to our kids. I still think writing and thinking are important, but many people seem to think AI can do that for us.

this is the point. They're all going

https://www.techspot.com/news/111306-ai-could-wipe-out-most-white-collar-jobs.html

[Anonymous]

Keyboards replaced typewriters

The next thing is coming. Don't fear too much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work in law and AI is constantly hallucinating things. How is this going to replace anyone at all?

Dude, AI is getting better every day. You are in denial/ living in a world of past AIs

https://www.zdnet.com/article/stop-saying-ai-hallucinates-it-doesnt-and-the-mischaracterization-is-dangerous/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Childcare workers to help children socialize with each other. As long as people producing babies, need for some level of child care. Or doggie care if people no longer want humans.

Adopt a kid, there are countless family-less kids.

Plant a garden

i'm sorry how does adopting a child help with income?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ll believe it when I see it.

AI still hallucinates like crazy and needs a lot of prompt engineering and training to do anything useful.

The notion that AI can replace “the vast majority of what we do in white collar jobs” is kind of laughable.

Yes, it will replace some things.

But it is very unlikely to replace the “vast majority” of people.

You're wrong. Google anything about this and read. This is a real thing that is happening.

[Anonymous]

It's true that AI still isn't great, but so many white collar tech jobs don't need great AI. It's scary to think about if you work in the high tech industry. And what does it spell for the future of our economy if so many middle class and upper middle class jobs are suddenly gone? The US will have 75 multi-billionaires and everyone else will be out on their ass. This feels so reminiscent of when US got rid of all the manufacturing jobs. Those jobs were not replaced by better options for the most part, and we just saw the decline of so much of the country.

[Anonymous]

And all the jonbs like nursing, HVAC, firfighting etc that can't be done by AI will be so oversaturated with workers that the salaries will go way down.

[Anonymous]

Are you the same poster who keeps posting this. Tech is changing as will jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's true that AI still isn't great, but so many white collar tech jobs don't need great AI. It's scary to think about if you work in the high tech industry. And what does it spell for the future of our economy if so many middle class and upper middle class jobs are suddenly gone? The US will have 75 multi-billionaires and everyone else will be out on their ass. This feels so reminiscent of when US got rid of all the manufacturing jobs. Those jobs were not replaced by better options for the most part, and we just saw the decline of so much of the country.

Who do these companies think will buy their products or provide a valid market for the ads they sell if nobody has a job. They need to think like Henry Ford who paid his workers well so that they could afford to buy his cars (and improved productivity, loyalty, etc).

[Anonymous]

Universal basic income.
Remember that dude, A Yang and his MATH campaign?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ll believe it when I see it.

AI still hallucinates like crazy and needs a lot of prompt engineering and training to do anything useful.

The notion that AI can replace “the vast majority of what we do in white collar jobs” is kind of laughable.

Yes, it will replace some things.

But it is very unlikely to replace the “vast majority” of people.

You're wrong. Google anything about this and read. This is a real thing that is happening.

Ok, let’s take one example.

Explain to me how AI will replace lawyers.

I’m not talking about AI being incorporated into legal workflows.

I mean a world in which we have no lawyers because AI is doing all legal work.

Will an AI agent represent a client in court?

What about doctors? Professors?

Will kids enter a classroom and be taught by an AI agent?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's true that AI still isn't great, but so many white collar tech jobs don't need great AI. It's scary to think about if you work in the high tech industry. And what does it spell for the future of our economy if so many middle class and upper middle class jobs are suddenly gone? The US will have 75 multi-billionaires and everyone else will be out on their ass. This feels so reminiscent of when US got rid of all the manufacturing jobs. Those jobs were not replaced by better options for the most part, and we just saw the decline of so much of the country.

Who do these companies think will buy their products or provide a valid market for the ads they sell if nobody has a job. They need to think like Henry Ford who paid his workers well so that they could afford to buy his cars (and improved productivity, loyalty, etc).

Yep.

if AI replaced most white collar jobs (which is highly unlikely), millions of people would be unable to purchase much of anything.

So then what? We have a few uber rich people but then the economy implodes, along with their wealth.

It makes absolutely no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We’re about to hit a Tsnami of old people. Will AI care for them?

AI needs to come up with neutral death panels and the means to execute (hah pun intended).
We can't have useless old people clogging up the care workers' time. And we can't keep importing loads of immigrants to take care of them and no Americans want those jobs (wiping butts).

(sarcasm but only slightly)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ll believe it when I see it.

AI still hallucinates like crazy and needs a lot of prompt engineering and training to do anything useful.

The notion that AI can replace “the vast majority of what we do in white collar jobs” is kind of laughable.

Yes, it will replace some things.

But it is very unlikely to replace the “vast majority” of people.

You're wrong. Google anything about this and read. This is a real thing that is happening.

Ok, let’s take one example.

Explain to me how AI will replace lawyers.

I’m not talking about AI being incorporated into legal workflows.

I mean a world in which we have no lawyers because AI is doing all legal work.

Will an AI agent represent a client in court?

What about doctors? Professors?

Will kids enter a classroom and be taught by an AI agent?

I have these questions, too.

And I think AI largely sucks right now. It gives my elementary kid the wrong answer on math problems in class (why are they using it in school for young kids??). It hallucinates citations for papers I did not write. And it cannot reliably answer basic questions about things like, “did X restaurant permanently close?”

However, rich & powerful people want it take over everything, so it probably will, with disastrous results that go beyond no one having a job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
OP, is this realization just now hitting you lol? I had this convo with my colleagues 5 years ago.

I work in big tech and have no concerns about my kids. DH and I need to be able to hold on for 10 years to retire, I am nervous about that.

My kids are young but all interested in blue collar jobs that exist in the real world, not just the digital world. They will be fine.

I call absolute bs that you were having this conversation 5 years ago. 5 years ago AI as we know it categorically did not exist. The only thing that existed 5 years ago was suggested sentence finishers and vague language interpretation, things like BERT. Also call bs on your 'young kids who are interested in blue collar jobs'. Your 5 year old wanting to be a fireman is not a solution for this moment dude. If in fact you were high enough up the food chain in tech and smart enough to truly know this was coming 5 years ago, then your net worth should be high enough you dont both need to work for another decade.

DP. My DH also works in tech (he’s in consulting, but nowhere near high up enough in the food chain to not need to work) and we’ve been talking about this for years. Heck Andrew Yang has been campaigning on UBI due to AI replacement for nearly a decade now.

If you weren’t worried about AI 5 years ago the you live under a rock.