Working in big tech and the writing on the wall for our kids

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is interesting that people think blue collar jobs are somehow immune. Maybe from AI alone but not from robotics and AI. Have you all seen the recent robot performances during China's lunar new year performance? When would I need human plumbers and roofers and electricians when the robots can move better than humans, can be configured to be any size, and is potentially smarter with AI brain? Blue collar will be first to go.

What if people are cheaper than robots?

Like human-driven cars are cheaper than autonomous cars?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is interesting that people think blue collar jobs are somehow immune. Maybe from AI alone but not from robotics and AI. Have you all seen the recent robot performances during China's lunar new year performance? When would I need human plumbers and roofers and electricians when the robots can move better than humans, can be configured to be any size, and is potentially smarter with AI brain? Blue collar will be first to go.

What if people are cheaper than robots?

Like human-driven cars are cheaper than autonomous cars?

That might true now because all these are cutting edge and expensive tech. But someday, and perhaps some day soon, the tech will get cheaper. Humans will always cost more over time because of a consistent standard of living requirement plus inflation. Robot cost will decrease over time with innovation.

And humans require insurance for these blue collar work, which tend to be rough on the body. Roofers may fall or electricians get shocked, all of which may cost a lot of money. Robots don't have the same liability concerns.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, AI is a multiplier that removes lower-level people, so those lower-level people need to use AI, as that is the lower-level role requirement now. So if you don't use AI to replace manual jobs and focus on a manual job, you are in trouble. You still need some to be the orchestra conductor, but the orchestra is no longer people. I always thought electronic music and systems would replace the orchestra, but I guess people still want to see someone play an instrument.

[Anonymous]

Quick question for you guys.

If self driving cars go mainstream in say 10 years, then why would an insurer underwrite insurance for a privately and human driven car? And if they do so, don't you think will jack up the prices so much that you will simply give up on owning a car.

I think that's Uber long term plan. They are betting that you will be forced to give up your car.

Don't underestimate Tech Bros' drive to siphon every single dollar you owe into their pockets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, AI is a multiplier that removes lower-level people, so those lower-level people need to use AI, as that is the lower-level role requirement now. So if you don't use AI to replace manual jobs and focus on a manual job, you are in trouble. You still need some to be the orchestra conductor, but the orchestra is no longer people. I always thought electronic music and systems would replace the orchestra, but I guess people still want to see someone play an instrument.

How many people do you think go to the orchestra these days?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is interesting that people think blue collar jobs are somehow immune. Maybe from AI alone but not from robotics and AI. Have you all seen the recent robot performances during China's lunar new year performance? When would I need human plumbers and roofers and electricians when the robots can move better than humans, can be configured to be any size, and is potentially smarter with AI brain? Blue collar will be first to go.

What if people are cheaper than robots?

Like human-driven cars are cheaper than autonomous cars?

That might true now because all these are cutting edge and expensive tech. But someday, and perhaps some day soon, the tech will get cheaper. Humans will always cost more over time because of a consistent standard of living requirement plus inflation. Robot cost will decrease over time with innovation.

And humans require insurance for these blue collar work, which tend to be rough on the body. Roofers may fall or electricians get shocked, all of which may cost a lot of money. Robots don't have the same liability concerns.

Robots fall and get shocked and may be made of very expensive components. They have the same expensive ingredients in them as smartphones and electric vehicles.

People's labor is cheap. That's why Asia is still exporting handwork instead of factories making the stuff without people in high cost countries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Quick question for you guys.

If self driving cars go mainstream in say 10 years, then why would an insurer underwrite insurance for a privately and human driven car? And if they do so, don't you think will jack up the prices so much that you will simply give up on owning a car.

I think that's Uber long term plan. They are betting that you will be forced to give up your car.

Don't underestimate Tech Bros' drive to siphon every single dollar you owe into their pockets.

Don't forget about public transportation. It exists mainly to benefit lower income people.

Also, truth be told, cars are very expensive. So is Uber, but people who do the math sometimes willingly give up their cars. Yes, even in America.

I have known a few people who commuted by Uber in suburbia. Mainly because they hadn't learned to drive in their home countries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
OP, is this realization just now hitting you lol? I had this convo with my colleagues 5 years ago.

I work in big tech and have no concerns about my kids. DH and I need to be able to hold on for 10 years to retire, I am nervous about that.

My kids are young but all interested in blue collar jobs that exist in the real world, not just the digital world.c They will be fine.

Oh, I just LOVE this post! It is so DCUM. You admit your kids are young, so just admit they don’t know what they actually want to do for living, as the vast majority of 18 year olds do not. Not to mention, they may try something and hate it.

And, coming from a blue collar family, as does my husband, I just love it when white collar, privileged people post crap like this. It’s so naive and condescending. I’ll let you in on a little secret: blue collar jobs are hard — hard on your body, hard to stay in business, and hard to keep the hustle going. There is a reason why blue collar workers want their kids to get an education. But sure, romanticize it to your kids as you like in your privileged, little bubble.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
OP, is this realization just now hitting you lol? I had this convo with my colleagues 5 years ago.

I work in big tech and have no concerns about my kids. DH and I need to be able to hold on for 10 years to retire, I am nervous about that.

My kids are young but all interested in blue collar jobs that exist in the real world, not just the digital world.c They will be fine.

Oh, I just LOVE this post! It is so DCUM. You admit your kids are young, so just admit they don’t know what they actually want to do for living, as the vast majority of 18 year olds do not. Not to mention, they may try something and hate it.

And, coming from a blue collar family, as does my husband, I just love it when white collar, privileged people post crap like this. It’s so naive and condescending. I’ll let you in on a little secret: blue collar jobs are hard — hard on your body, hard to stay in business, and hard to keep the hustle going. There is a reason why blue collar workers want their kids to get an education. But sure, romanticize it to your kids as you like in your privileged, little bubble.

Not to mention that by the very nature of the coming AI crisis, the blue collar world will be flooded with oversupply. $150k as a 5-year-in HVAC technician is not going to be so attainable when there are a bunch of other guys standing around willing to do it for $60k.

[Anonymous]

News got better for your kids and others who fear they may be replaced by AI.

SCOTUS declined to hear an appellate decision that ruled that AI content is not copyrightable. In order to obtain a copyright, the author must be human.

This is good news since, in addition to art, literature and music, most software is protected by copyright. So, if a business is in the business of selling software that is an asset protected by copyright, it had better ensure there is sufficient human input to allow copyright protection. This will likely also apply to patents, since they already require a human "inventor". Fears of AI taking everything over tomorrow may be premature.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Quick question for you guys.

If self driving cars go mainstream in say 10 years, then why would an insurer underwrite insurance for a privately and human driven car? And if they do so, don't you think will jack up the prices so much that you will simply give up on owning a car.

I think that's Uber long term plan. They are betting that you will be forced to give up your car.

Don't underestimate Tech Bros' drive to siphon every single dollar you owe into their pockets.

I understand the fascination with self driving cars and wiring up all this tech. I'm sure hopping around SanFran or whatever and seeing all these robo taxis/waymo's, or being in one, seems like a dream come true. How long do you think that'll last exactly? How about 10 years from now and we have another Trump in office, and an even more powerful Palantir, and suddenly they get to decide who gets to go where?

That's not really a question for you, but I participate in a lot of tech focused boards and to suggest this stuff isn't the greatest thing ever is met with forceful condemnation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
OP, is this realization just now hitting you lol? I had this convo with my colleagues 5 years ago.

I work in big tech and have no concerns about my kids. DH and I need to be able to hold on for 10 years to retire, I am nervous about that.

My kids are young but all interested in blue collar jobs that exist in the real world, not just the digital world.c They will be fine.

Oh, I just LOVE this post! It is so DCUM. You admit your kids are young, so just admit they don’t know what they actually want to do for living, as the vast majority of 18 year olds do not. Not to mention, they may try something and hate it.

And, coming from a blue collar family, as does my husband, I just love it when white collar, privileged people post crap like this. It’s so naive and condescending. I’ll let you in on a little secret: blue collar jobs are hard — hard on your body, hard to stay in business, and hard to keep the hustle going. There is a reason why blue collar workers want their kids to get an education. But sure, romanticize it to your kids as you like in your privileged, little bubble.

No need to be nasty. White collar work is dreadful frankly. You're just sitting in front of box having meaningless conversations half the time. Of course people yearn for something else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
OP, is this realization just now hitting you lol? I had this convo with my colleagues 5 years ago.

I work in big tech and have no concerns about my kids. DH and I need to be able to hold on for 10 years to retire, I am nervous about that.

My kids are young but all interested in blue collar jobs that exist in the real world, not just the digital world.c They will be fine.

Oh, I just LOVE this post! It is so DCUM. You admit your kids are young, so just admit they don’t know what they actually want to do for living, as the vast majority of 18 year olds do not. Not to mention, they may try something and hate it.

And, coming from a blue collar family, as does my husband, I just love it when white collar, privileged people post crap like this. It’s so naive and condescending. I’ll let you in on a little secret: blue collar jobs are hard — hard on your body, hard to stay in business, and hard to keep the hustle going. There is a reason why blue collar workers want their kids to get an education. But sure, romanticize it to your kids as you like in your privileged, little bubble.

No need to be nasty. White collar work is dreadful frankly. You're just sitting in front of box having meaningless conversations half the time. Of course people yearn for something else.

The children yearn for the mines.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-children-yearn-for-the-mines

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work in big tech and what I am learning every day about the future of AI is so so concerning when it comes to our kids future.

The vast majority of what we do in white collar jobs is about to become obsolete. Our kids will largely either vibe code their way to solopreneurship, be part of the 2% of people who might get a rare ‘corporate job’, do something you need a physical body for, learn to invest or be without income. College is going to be overhauled and in many ways no longer necessary

Jamie dimon is correct that countries need to quickly make it illegal to fire your whole workforce and replace with AI, so we can buy time to figure out what the f to do.

In the meantime we are moving and saving hard. Truly a nuts situation that I think people are only just starting to grasp

Written (poorly) by AI.