Why don’t democrats stoop to republicans level?
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Anonymous
First of all, the fact that “the Democrats you know” share an opinion, does not mean they are representative of Democrats you don’t know, much less the general population. If everyone around you is agreeing with you, you should probably seek out other people who have different perspectives. Secondly, while in a party as large as the Republicans (or Democrats), you will find some people who want to deprive others of human rights, I think that the vast majority of voters (regardless of affiliation) want human rights to be respected, but they may differ on how they define those rights and consequently, how they think human rights are best protected. I don’t think Trump cares about human rights (by any definition), as he is only motivated by self-interest, as are the Republican sycophants who support him despite knowing better. MAGA voters/cultists have been too brainwashed by their idolatry to think rationally, but they couldn’t have elected Trump by themselves. The fact is that most of the voters who put Trump into office (many of whom had previously voted for Biden and Obama) felt that the Democratic platform in 2024 did not represent them (and yes, as previously stated, anyone should have known that Trump, caring only for himself, wouldn’t either). Democrats can continue to embrace positions that the general public doesn’t and demonize them for disagreeing with your take on human rights, but that’s unlikely to win over their votes to put Democrats into power where they can support whatever human rights however they wish. Or you can take an alternate route, listen to what the voters want, support the issues you can agree with, and give them the latitude to disagree on other issues without turning them into your enemy. The Democrats seem to have the voting dynamic backwards. They seem to think it is the voters duty to serve the candidate by giving them their vote, rather than remembering that the representative should be the public SERVANT, who should earn votes by serving the public interest. |
Anonymous
No, that's not it at all. They just need the hammer the truth in simple language instead of wonk-talk. The Dems just need to repeat talking points that question Trump's ethics like the Repubs did. For example, Trump has a crypto currency. Every democrat politician should bring that up in every time they are on camera. |
Anonymous
The swing voters who elected Trump did it because they were hurting from inflation. All exit polling confirms this. The culture war nonsense you’re alluding to was a non-factor. |
Anonymous
opposite. I am originally from Ca, never liked Newsom, but I see now he's got balls and can stand up to bullies. I may vote for him in the future. -Independent |
Anonymous
PP here and I completely agree. That was actually the point I was trying to make, apparently ineffectively. Democrats need to listen to what voters care about (like inflation) and address those concerns instead of claiming moral superiority as the champions of human rights and demonizing anyone who doesn’t vote for them as opposing human rights. |
Anonymous
| Because they control orthodoxy in academic and corporate thought. There is no need for them to be flamboyant because they set the baseline |
Anonymous
Being right hasn't done us much good. They are still destroying the country. At some point, you need to do what is necessary to win the fight. All's fair in love and war for a reason. You can't win against an opponent willing to do literally anything necessary to win if you tie your hands behind your back so you can claim some kind of imagined moral victory. |
Anonymous
Running your mouth isn't standing up to anything. What of substance has he done to oppose this regime? |
Anonymous
| This has been rehashed over and over again. It is easy to destroy things. That’s what Republicans like to do. Have they ever passed any legislation other than tax cuts? Democrats want to build things to enact policy that will make peoples lives better. That takes consensus that takes cooperation, and intelligence all of those skills that are void in the current Republican Party. |
Anonymous
What makes Republicans successful isn't the policies they support, obviously. It's that they know how to hammer a message so the low information voters understand it. And they focus on attacking the other side's ideas more than defending their own ideas. Republicans have coordinated talking points. And they know how to go on offense, putting Democrats on defense. Democrats fall for it everytime. |
Anonymous
Speaking out against nonsense is standing up to it. What kind of foolish thinks otherwise? |
Anonymous
This. |
Anonymous
Repeating ad nauseam only makes people time out more. I didn’t vote MAGA but I’ve learned the Democrats dont represent me either. They care more about the party than people. It is a lot of crocodile tears about people but it’s more about power for themselves. They infantilize the everyone else in the party. They listen for key word workout listening to intent and ahoit people done (a la MN yoga studio). What both major parties do is weaponize law and forget the net party in power will use those same powers against them. It’s a frickin’ hamster wheel. |
Anonymous
Maybe? He kinda mirrors Trump. I’d like to see some more originality. And someone who can think beyond Trump. He could maybe pull it off if he focuses more on independents and less on MAGA. The Dems he already has … except those who have been forced to independent by their (formerly) fellow Dems. |
Anonymous
There is standing up and there is throwing a toddler tantrum. |