“I’m not against immigrants. I just want them to come here legally.”

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We can debate all day long how many illegals there are, but can we agree that those who are illegal, should be deported?
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Anonymous wrote:We can debate all day long how many illegals there are, but can we agree that those who are illegal, should be deported?


Sure, if we can agree that ICE going to courthouses where legal immigrants are going through the normal process and yet being abducted is proof against the idea that they are only going after illegal immigrants.
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Anonymous wrote:We can debate all day long how many illegals there are, but can we agree that those who are illegal, should be deported?


Immigrants are detained appearing in court for routine immigration hearings. What else are they supposed to do? They’re appearing regularly as asked.
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Yes, immigrants should come here legally.
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Anonymous wrote:We can debate all day long how many illegals there are, but can we agree that those who are illegal, should be deported?


Immigrants are detained appearing in court for routine immigration hearings. What else are they supposed to do? They’re appearing regularly as asked.
You didn’t answer the question, if they’re here illegally should they be deported ? It’s not a trick question.


I did above. Once again, "sure."

Now your turn. Can we agree that ICE going to courthouses where legal immigrants are going through the normal process and yet still being abducted by ICE is proof that they are not only going after illegal immigrants, and that this is bad?

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Anonymous wrote:I voted for Clinton, Biden, and Harris. I have not and would never vote for the modern Republican party.

I do think they are semi-correct on immigration. The majority of immigrants are here illegally and need to be deported. I would be in favor of pausing immigration and ending birthright citizenship.

I do not support backtracking and denaturalizing citizens who went through the process correctly. ICE is also way too violent. There was no need for them to drive that Hmong man around Minneapolis while he was shirtless in the cold, only to find out that he was a legal citizen.


What do you mean “the majority of immigrants are here illegally”? Where do you get that statistic? There are a number of different statuses that migrants can have and most are not illegal.


Not PP, but it's probably safe to say the majority of immigrants over the last several years are here illegally. For instance, 10 million+ crossed the border under Biden. Not sure how many legal immigrants entered, but i'm guessing the illegal ones vastly outnumbered legal by like 100:1.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/08/21/key-findings-about-us-immigrants/



Whoa whoa whoa, your numbers are way off. The "10 million" number is for encounters, but that does not mean entered. That can mean people turned back at the border. That can mean multiple encounters with the same guy. Plus, people come and go, and they didn't stop deportations and removals under Biden. But MAGA and anti-immigrant folks ignore all of that reality and come to the completely wrong conclusion that number of illegals in the country went +10 million under Biden, and that's wrong.

As for 100:1 illegal to legal is WAY out of whack with reality and I have absolutely no idea where you got that idea. If someone out there said it, they need to be shut down. Pew Research (the people from your own paper) say there are roughly 35-37 million LEGAL immigrants, to 10-11 million illegal. So not only is it not 100:1, illegal to legal it's 1:3 illegal to legal.

But that's where we are - in a place where anyone foreign born is (by some) automatically believed to be here illegally, "100:1" even though that's wrong, and for that matter we see it too with anyone US born who is a spanish speaker, or latino, or otherwise person of color.

It's pretty awful to hear that ICE even profiled off duty POLICE OFFICERS accusing them of being here illegally.
+1000
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Anonymous wrote:I voted for Clinton, Biden, and Harris. I have not and would never vote for the modern Republican party.

I do think they are semi-correct on immigration. The majority of immigrants are here illegally and need to be deported. I would be in favor of pausing immigration and ending birthright citizenship.

I do not support backtracking and denaturalizing citizens who went through the process correctly. ICE is also way too violent. There was no need for them to drive that Hmong man around Minneapolis while he was shirtless in the cold, only to find out that he was a legal citizen.


What do you mean “the majority of immigrants are here illegally”? Where do you get that statistic? There are a number of different statuses that migrants can have and most are not illegal.


51 million foreign-born people in the US. Estimates of the undocumented population are generally around 11-13 million. Half million of those have active DACA status, which applies to a specific age and arrival range. There are many more (of the undocumented) who have lived in the US since they were children (or babies) but who are too old for DACA. There's some percentage who have had active immigration cases including but not limited to asylum applications who have been allowed to remain in the US while their cases are pending.

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Anonymous wrote:We can debate all day long how many illegals there are, but can we agree that those who are illegal, should be deported?


Immigrants are detained appearing in court for routine immigration hearings. What else are they supposed to do? They’re appearing regularly as asked.
You didn’t answer the question, if they’re here illegally should they be deported ? It’s not a trick question.


I did above. Once again, "sure."

Now your turn. Can we agree that ICE going to courthouses where legal immigrants are going through the normal process and yet still being abducted by ICE is proof that they are not only going after illegal immigrants, and that this is bad?

Well, this would highly fact specific. But if they entered illegally (so already broke immigration law), and are working the process to extend their stay, then they can be detained, courthouse or wherever. The original infraction is the problem.


It is true that people who have active immigration cases don't get to stop the clock on deportation or whatever, but going after the people who are complying with the requirements of those cases is a poor use of resources if the idea is to prioritize those who present a threat to public safety or national security. 94% of the people currently in detention are coded as presenting 0 threat, but we're paying for-profit corporations millions of dollars to keep them there, while adding to the national debt.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a well-off immigrant from Europe with multiple degrees. I've spent two decades on work visas and now I'm waiting for a green card.

The majority of foreigners in the US are here legally, yet they're being harassed, detained and deported.

We will look back on this time with horror at the rampant xenophobia that was unleashed in 2025-2028.

The detention camps house foreigners (and US citizens) in inhumane conditions. Some of them sleep on the floor, exposed to unpleasant climate conditions. None of them receive adequate medical care. More people have died in ICE detention in 2025 than died under all 4 years of Biden's last term.

These are like the concentration camps of WWII, people. Many Americans may not see it that way right now, but once this President's term is over, and undercover journalists start going into these prisons, you will see how terrible they are.

The most powerful democracy in the world, the one who claims to defend freedom and the civil rights, is putting thousands of innocent people into concentration camps all over the country.

For shame.




Oh please. Stop the ludicrous “concentration camps” analogies it is offensive to the Jews (and Chinese laogai and Russian gulags prisoners ) who experienced atrocities at these camps.

People who break the law are detained in prison, including Americans. It isn’t nice or comfortable. Some may die, just like people die everyday.

PS why are you residing in a place that you feel resembles Nazi Germany? Take a look in the mirror, hypocrite.
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Anonymous wrote:We can debate all day long how many illegals there are, but can we agree that those who are illegal, should be deported?


Immigrants are detained appearing in court for routine immigration hearings. What else are they supposed to do? They’re appearing regularly as asked.
You didn’t answer the question, if they’re here illegally should they be deported ? It’s not a trick question.


I did above. Once again, "sure."

Now your turn. Can we agree that ICE going to courthouses where legal immigrants are going through the normal process and yet still being abducted by ICE is proof that they are not only going after illegal immigrants, and that this is bad?

Well, this would highly fact specific. But if they entered illegally (so already broke immigration law), and are working the process to extend their stay, then they can be detained, courthouse or wherever. The original infraction is the problem.


So the judge is engaging in the importation of illegal aliens and conspiring to falsely legalize them, AND is colluding in breaking the laws?
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Anonymous wrote:Yes, immigrants should come here legally.
Still can’t answer the question.


Question?
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Anonymous wrote:We can debate all day long how many illegals there are, but can we agree that those who are illegal, should be deported?


Immigrants are detained appearing in court for routine immigration hearings. What else are they supposed to do? They’re appearing regularly as asked.
You didn’t answer the question, if they’re here illegally should they be deported ? It’s not a trick question.


I did above. Once again, "sure."

Now your turn. Can we agree that ICE going to courthouses where legal immigrants are going through the normal process and yet still being abducted by ICE is proof that they are not only going after illegal immigrants, and that this is bad?

Well, this would highly fact specific. But if they entered illegally (so already broke immigration law), and are working the process to extend their stay, then they can be detained, courthouse or wherever. The original infraction is the problem.


It is true that people who have active immigration cases don't get to stop the clock on deportation or whatever, but going after the people who are complying with the requirements of those cases is a poor use of resources if the idea is to prioritize those who present a threat to public safety or national security. 94% of the people currently in detention are coded as presenting 0 threat, but we're paying for-profit corporations millions of dollars to keep them there, while adding to the national debt.
Oh please, poor use of resources ? If they didn’t waste it on this, it would be something else. Biden let in millions and just cut them loose. The pendulum went too far “left.” And now you’re seeing the opposite reaction, which some may see as too far “right”, but it is what people voted for. It was the main issue in the election. I’m sure the next Dem president will reverse and we can repeat the whole process.
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Anonymous wrote:We can debate all day long how many illegals there are, but can we agree that those who are illegal, should be deported?


Immigrants are detained appearing in court for routine immigration hearings. What else are they supposed to do? They’re appearing regularly as asked.
You didn’t answer the question, if they’re here illegally should they be deported ? It’s not a trick question.


I did above. Once again, "sure."

Now your turn. Can we agree that ICE going to courthouses where legal immigrants are going through the normal process and yet still being abducted by ICE is proof that they are not only going after illegal immigrants, and that this is bad?

Well, this would highly fact specific. But if they entered illegally (so already broke immigration law), and are working the process to extend their stay, then they can be detained, courthouse or wherever. The original infraction is the problem.


If they are attending hearings and working through the process as the US has asked them to do, why detain them?
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Anonymous wrote:We can debate all day long how many illegals there are, but can we agree that those who are illegal, should be deported?


Immigrants are detained appearing in court for routine immigration hearings. What else are they supposed to do? They’re appearing regularly as asked.
You didn’t answer the question, if they’re here illegally should they be deported ? It’s not a trick question.


I did above. Once again, "sure."

Now your turn. Can we agree that ICE going to courthouses where legal immigrants are going through the normal process and yet still being abducted by ICE is proof that they are not only going after illegal immigrants, and that this is bad?

Well, this would highly fact specific. But if they entered illegally (so already broke immigration law), and are working the process to extend their stay, then they can be detained, courthouse or wherever. The original infraction is the problem.


So the judge is engaging in the importation of illegal aliens and conspiring to falsely legalize them, AND is colluding in breaking the laws?
No one said a judge is importing illegal aliens, but nice try.
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Anonymous wrote:We can debate all day long how many illegals there are, but can we agree that those who are illegal, should be deported?


Immigrants are detained appearing in court for routine immigration hearings. What else are they supposed to do? They’re appearing regularly as asked.
You didn’t answer the question, if they’re here illegally should they be deported ? It’s not a trick question.


I did above. Once again, "sure."

Now your turn. Can we agree that ICE going to courthouses where legal immigrants are going through the normal process and yet still being abducted by ICE is proof that they are not only going after illegal immigrants, and that this is bad?

Well, this would highly fact specific. But if they entered illegally (so already broke immigration law), and are working the process to extend their stay, then they can be detained, courthouse or wherever. The original infraction is the problem.


If they are attending hearings and working through the process as the US has asked them to do, why detain them?
Deterrence, so that millions of others don’t replicate their illegal entry, expecting to get a pass if they show up to court.
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