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[Anonymous]

ICE kidnapped elderly man and paraded him around outside in freezing temperatures wearing no shirt.

He was not a criminal. They busted down his door, too. Eventually, they returned him to his home.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/st-paul-hmong-elder-u-214000995.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Illegal immigrants are not being kidnapped. They are being arrested for violating our laws and being unlawfully present in this country.

Is that why they kicked a US citizen Sae Joon Park, who earned a Purple Heart, out of the US and sent him to Korea?

Please explain how doing so made the US safer given that he risked his life for America.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/investigations-and-features/2025/12/15/purple-heart-veteran-deported-last-june-confronts-noem-congressional-hearing.html

They left out the crimes he committed.

Trump committed crimes, and he's president. But now, we suddenly want to kick out criminals?

Sae Joon Park for President!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a humane way to do this and inhumane. MAGA do not care if it is humane, if people including US citizens, are detained using illegal unnecessary use of force, or if immigrants are illegally deported without due process or in violation of court order (like the college student above)

Agree. The humane way would be for state & local law enforcement to turn illegals over to feds for processing.

But since Democrats WANT there to be chaos & conflict, they won’t cooperate with ICE.

What "illegals" EXACTLY are you talking about. If you're talking about someone who committed a crime and is already in local or state custody, then you might have a point. But if you're talking about using state and local law enforcement to round up undocumented people the way ICE does--in workplaces, at Target or Home Depot, on the street because they "look" foreign, on the street where they pull cars over because they're been driven by someone who looks foreign, in parking lots, etc. etc. etc., that is not the job of local or state LEO. That is the job of BP and ICE--local/state LEO are not authorized to do that kind of work. Can you be specific about what types of "illegals" exactly you mean?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Illegal immigrants are not being kidnapped. They are being arrested for violating our laws and being unlawfully present in this country.

Is that why they kicked a US citizen Sae Joon Park, who earned a Purple Heart, out of the US and sent him to Korea?

Please explain how doing so made the US safer given that he risked his life for America.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/investigations-and-features/2025/12/15/purple-heart-veteran-deported-last-june-confronts-noem-congressional-hearing.html

They left out the crimes he committed.

He got addicted to drugs after he left the military, not great, but he has a purple heart, he is more american than you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a humane way to do this and inhumane. MAGA do not care if it is humane, if people including US citizens, are detained using illegal unnecessary use of force, or if immigrants are illegally deported without due process or in violation of court order (like the college student above)

Agree. The humane way would be for state & local law enforcement to turn illegals over to feds for processing.

But since Democrats WANT there to be chaos & conflict, they won’t cooperate with ICE.

What "illegals" EXACTLY are you talking about. If you're talking about someone who committed a crime and is already in local or state custody, then you might have a point. But if you're talking about using state and local law enforcement to round up undocumented people the way ICE does--in workplaces, at Target or Home Depot, on the street because they "look" foreign, on the street where they pull cars over because they're been driven by someone who looks foreign, in parking lots, etc. etc. etc., that is not the job of local or state LEO. That is the job of BP and ICE--local/state LEO are not authorized to do that kind of work. Can you be specific about what types of "illegals" exactly you mean?

DP. I’m sure the PP is referring to noncitizens who have no right to be here. Ie illegal aliens who are subject to deportation. It’s not like they need to commit additional violations of US law in order to be deported. Such a weird hill you guys die on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ICE kidnapped elderly man and paraded him around outside in freezing temperatures wearing no shirt.

He was not a criminal. They busted down his door, too. Eventually, they returned him to his home.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/st-paul-hmong-elder-u-214000995.html

They were there to arrest two sex offender illegal immigrants. This guy was sharing the place with them, and refused to be fingerprinted or facially IDd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a humane way to do this and inhumane. MAGA do not care if it is humane, if people including US citizens, are detained using illegal unnecessary use of force, or if immigrants are illegally deported without due process or in violation of court order (like the college student above)

Agree. The humane way would be for state & local law enforcement to turn illegals over to feds for processing.

But since Democrats WANT there to be chaos & conflict, they won’t cooperate with ICE.

What "illegals" EXACTLY are you talking about. If you're talking about someone who committed a crime and is already in local or state custody, then you might have a point. But if you're talking about using state and local law enforcement to round up undocumented people the way ICE does--in workplaces, at Target or Home Depot, on the street because they "look" foreign, on the street where they pull cars over because they're been driven by someone who looks foreign, in parking lots, etc. etc. etc., that is not the job of local or state LEO. That is the job of BP and ICE--local/state LEO are not authorized to do that kind of work. Can you be specific about what types of "illegals" exactly you mean?

DP. I’m sure the PP is referring to noncitizens who have no right to be here. Ie illegal aliens who are subject to deportation. It’s not like they need to commit additional violations of US law in order to be deported. Such a weird hill you guys die on.

You're not very bright. You just parrot MAGA points but have you stopped to think about what you're saying? Immigration enforcement is a FEDERAL responsibility, not a local one. How do you propose that local cops 1) identify and 2) "capture" these folks? There a number categories of people who may be in this country without proper documentation.

*visa overstays (they're not always POC--they can be white and from Europe or Canada)
*"border crossers" who did not go through passport control at the border (how do you find them since they're not officially here?)
*visa violators (other than overstays)--for example, people who enter legally but are working without authorization on a non-work visa.
*people with temporary protections who lose status--e.g., initially allowed entry under programs like humanitarian parole but who remain after protections end or are revoked

And then there are the folks who are here perfectly legally but who may "look" or "sound"foreign:

*green card holders
*people on the following visas: Tourists/business visitors (B-1/B-2 visas), Students (F-1 academic or M-1 vocational), Temporary workers (e.g., H-1B specialty occupations, H-2A/H-2B seasonal, L-1 intracompany transfers, O-1 extraordinary ability), Exchange visitors (J-1), Treaty traders/investors (E-1/E-2)
*protected status holder such as refugees
*asylees (granted asylum)
*Temporary Protected Status (TPS) recipients
*parolees (humanitarian or other parole)
*victims of trafficking (T visa) or crime (U visa)

Local cops are not tasked with ascertaining whether someone is here legally and then arresting them if they're not. Being here illegally is not a crime, even if your cult has told you it is. See Supreme Court case: In Arizona v. United States, 567 U.S. 387 (2012), the Court explicitly stated: "As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain present in the United States."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would appreciate a thread with videos and other proof of ICE taking away citizens and non-citizens.

What about the criminals?

Don't care about their victims.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is a humane way to do this and inhumane. MAGA do not care if it is humane, if people including US citizens, are detained using illegal unnecessary use of force, or if immigrants are illegally deported without due process or in violation of court order (like the college student above)

If a jurisdiction won't cooperate with ICE, how should ICE remove criminal aliens?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a humane way to do this and inhumane. MAGA do not care if it is humane, if people including US citizens, are detained using illegal unnecessary use of force, or if immigrants are illegally deported without due process or in violation of court order (like the college student above)

Agree. The humane way would be for state & local law enforcement to turn illegals over to feds for processing.

But since Democrats WANT there to be chaos & conflict, they won’t cooperate with ICE.

What "illegals" EXACTLY are you talking about. If you're talking about someone who committed a crime and is already in local or state custody, then you might have a point. But if you're talking about using state and local law enforcement to round up undocumented people the way ICE does--in workplaces, at Target or Home Depot, on the street because they "look" foreign, on the street where they pull cars over because they're been driven by someone who looks foreign, in parking lots, etc. etc. etc., that is not the job of local or state LEO. That is the job of BP and ICE--local/state LEO are not authorized to do that kind of work. Can you be specific about what types of "illegals" exactly you mean?

DP. I’m sure the PP is referring to noncitizens who have no right to be here. Ie illegal aliens who are subject to deportation. It’s not like they need to commit additional violations of US law in order to be deported. Such a weird hill you guys die on.

You're not very bright. You just parrot MAGA points but have you stopped to think about what you're saying? Immigration enforcement is a FEDERAL responsibility, not a local one. How do you propose that local cops 1) identify and 2) "capture" these folks? There a number categories of people who may be in this country without proper documentation.

*visa overstays (they're not always POC--they can be white and from Europe or Canada)
*"border crossers" who did not go through passport control at the border (how do you find them since they're not officially here?)
*visa violators (other than overstays)--for example, people who enter legally but are working without authorization on a non-work visa.
*people with temporary protections who lose status--e.g., initially allowed entry under programs like humanitarian parole but who remain after protections end or are revoked

And then there are the folks who are here perfectly legally but who may "look" or "sound"foreign:

*green card holders
*people on the following visas: Tourists/business visitors (B-1/B-2 visas), Students (F-1 academic or M-1 vocational), Temporary workers (e.g., H-1B specialty occupations, H-2A/H-2B seasonal, L-1 intracompany transfers, O-1 extraordinary ability), Exchange visitors (J-1), Treaty traders/investors (E-1/E-2)
*protected status holder such as refugees
*asylees (granted asylum)
*Temporary Protected Status (TPS) recipients
*parolees (humanitarian or other parole)
*victims of trafficking (T visa) or crime (U visa)

Local cops are not tasked with ascertaining whether someone is here legally and then arresting them if they're not. Being here illegally is not a crime, even if your cult has told you it is. See Supreme Court case: In Arizona v. United States, 567 U.S. 387 (2012), the Court explicitly stated: "As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain present in the United States."

What do you propose to solve the problem?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a humane way to do this and inhumane. MAGA do not care if it is humane, if people including US citizens, are detained using illegal unnecessary use of force, or if immigrants are illegally deported without due process or in violation of court order (like the college student above)

Agree. The humane way would be for state & local law enforcement to turn illegals over to feds for processing.

But since Democrats WANT there to be chaos & conflict, they won’t cooperate with ICE.

What "illegals" EXACTLY are you talking about. If you're talking about someone who committed a crime and is already in local or state custody, then you might have a point. But if you're talking about using state and local law enforcement to round up undocumented people the way ICE does--in workplaces, at Target or Home Depot, on the street because they "look" foreign, on the street where they pull cars over because they're been driven by someone who looks foreign, in parking lots, etc. etc. etc., that is not the job of local or state LEO. That is the job of BP and ICE--local/state LEO are not authorized to do that kind of work. Can you be specific about what types of "illegals" exactly you mean?

DP. I’m sure the PP is referring to noncitizens who have no right to be here. Ie illegal aliens who are subject to deportation. It’s not like they need to commit additional violations of US law in order to be deported. Such a weird hill you guys die on.

You're not very bright. You just parrot MAGA points but have you stopped to think about what you're saying? Immigration enforcement is a FEDERAL responsibility, not a local one. How do you propose that local cops 1) identify and 2) "capture" these folks? There a number categories of people who may be in this country without proper documentation.

*visa overstays (they're not always POC--they can be white and from Europe or Canada)
*"border crossers" who did not go through passport control at the border (how do you find them since they're not officially here?)
*visa violators (other than overstays)--for example, people who enter legally but are working without authorization on a non-work visa.
*people with temporary protections who lose status--e.g., initially allowed entry under programs like humanitarian parole but who remain after protections end or are revoked

And then there are the folks who are here perfectly legally but who may "look" or "sound"foreign:

*green card holders
*people on the following visas: Tourists/business visitors (B-1/B-2 visas), Students (F-1 academic or M-1 vocational), Temporary workers (e.g., H-1B specialty occupations, H-2A/H-2B seasonal, L-1 intracompany transfers, O-1 extraordinary ability), Exchange visitors (J-1), Treaty traders/investors (E-1/E-2)
*protected status holder such as refugees
*asylees (granted asylum)
*Temporary Protected Status (TPS) recipients
*parolees (humanitarian or other parole)
*victims of trafficking (T visa) or crime (U visa)

Local cops are not tasked with ascertaining whether someone is here legally and then arresting them if they're not. Being here illegally is not a crime, even if your cult has told you it is. See Supreme Court case: In Arizona v. United States, 567 U.S. 387 (2012), the Court explicitly stated: "As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain present in the United States."

What do you propose to solve the problem?

Not the overkill actually happening. Means don't justify Ends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a humane way to do this and inhumane. MAGA do not care if it is humane, if people including US citizens, are detained using illegal unnecessary use of force, or if immigrants are illegally deported without due process or in violation of court order (like the college student above)

Agree. The humane way would be for state & local law enforcement to turn illegals over to feds for processing.

But since Democrats WANT there to be chaos & conflict, they won’t cooperate with ICE.

What "illegals" EXACTLY are you talking about. If you're talking about someone who committed a crime and is already in local or state custody, then you might have a point. But if you're talking about using state and local law enforcement to round up undocumented people the way ICE does--in workplaces, at Target or Home Depot, on the street because they "look" foreign, on the street where they pull cars over because they're been driven by someone who looks foreign, in parking lots, etc. etc. etc., that is not the job of local or state LEO. That is the job of BP and ICE--local/state LEO are not authorized to do that kind of work. Can you be specific about what types of "illegals" exactly you mean?

DP. I’m sure the PP is referring to noncitizens who have no right to be here. Ie illegal aliens who are subject to deportation. It’s not like they need to commit additional violations of US law in order to be deported. Such a weird hill you guys die on.

You're not very bright. You just parrot MAGA points but have you stopped to think about what you're saying? Immigration enforcement is a FEDERAL responsibility, not a local one. How do you propose that local cops 1) identify and 2) "capture" these folks? There a number categories of people who may be in this country without proper documentation.

*visa overstays (they're not always POC--they can be white and from Europe or Canada)
*"border crossers" who did not go through passport control at the border (how do you find them since they're not officially here?)
*visa violators (other than overstays)--for example, people who enter legally but are working without authorization on a non-work visa.
*people with temporary protections who lose status--e.g., initially allowed entry under programs like humanitarian parole but who remain after protections end or are revoked

And then there are the folks who are here perfectly legally but who may "look" or "sound"foreign:

*green card holders
*people on the following visas: Tourists/business visitors (B-1/B-2 visas), Students (F-1 academic or M-1 vocational), Temporary workers (e.g., H-1B specialty occupations, H-2A/H-2B seasonal, L-1 intracompany transfers, O-1 extraordinary ability), Exchange visitors (J-1), Treaty traders/investors (E-1/E-2)
*protected status holder such as refugees
*asylees (granted asylum)
*Temporary Protected Status (TPS) recipients
*parolees (humanitarian or other parole)
*victims of trafficking (T visa) or crime (U visa)

Local cops are not tasked with ascertaining whether someone is here legally and then arresting them if they're not. Being here illegally is not a crime, even if your cult has told you it is. See Supreme Court case: In Arizona v. United States, 567 U.S. 387 (2012), the Court explicitly stated: "As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain present in the United States."

What do you propose to solve the problem?

I've been thinking about this for a long time. Here goes:

*start by dialing back the white supremacist/racist rhetoric
*treat people with dignity and humanity--they are not criminals in most cases unless they committed actual crimes or entered without being processed at the border
*get rid of the crazy daily quota imposed by Stephen Miller and develop a systematic plan for deporting people that is humane
*as was done under Obama, focus on deporting criminals, gang members, and recent border crossers first
*instead of hiring 10,000+ more ICE officers, hire more judges and staff to clear backlogs (faster fair trials mean quicker removals without long and costly detention)
*increase incentives for voluntary self-deportation (it's cheaper in the long run than putting people in detention)
*improve detention standards and reduce the need for detention for low-risk people by using tech like ankle monitors, check-ins, etc. that allow them to stay outside detention facilities while waiting for their trials
*get rid of the masks and para-military outfits (they frighten everyone and decrease community trust in the LE community)
*provide incentives to home countries to repatriate their citizens

This is just a start. By now most Americans agree that we should have a well-controlled border--they just don't like the draconian tactics currently being used to deport people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I think that happened Sunday. By Saturday temps in MN had fallen to subzero and single digits (and will be there for most of the next 2 weeks, with the coldest days of the winter so far happening in a few days)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would appreciate a thread with videos and other proof of ICE taking away citizens and non-citizens.

What about the criminals?

That's what I keep saying. What about the actual criminals who now get to commit crimes happily because all resources are directed to detaining people wo work at Target or attend their immigration hearings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I think that happened Sunday. By Saturday temps in MN had fallen to subzero and single digits (and will be there for most of the next 2 weeks, with the coldest days of the winter so far happening in a few days)

The worst was that Chicago apartment building raid where approximately 300 federal agents, supported by Black Hawk helicopters and flashbang grenades, raided a large apartment building on the South Side around 1am. Residents—including children and U.S. citizens—were pulled from their beds in the middle of the night, zip-tied, and held outside or in vans for hours.
https://time.com/7323334/ice-raid-chicago-pritzker-trump/