Deferral is DEFINITELY not the end of the application - detailed analysis

[Anonymous]

Depends on both the high school and the college.

Deferral from ED or EA to RD is not the same as being waitlisted. Also, waitlists are usually a no, but some are more positive than others.

The Common data set for each college will tell you how many they put on the waitlist and how many actual got off the waitlist. For VT and UVA and JMU the waitlist basically means no. For Pitt it’s a higher chance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://standoutcollegeprep.com/college-deferral-statistics/
Ivy+ schools: 2–8% of deferred students are eventually admitted
Top 20 privates: 5–15% of deferred students eventually admitted
Top 50 schools: 10–25% of deferred students eventually admitted

Take a few T10 schools as examples:
Northwestern: ~10–15% of deferred Admitted from Deferral Pool
Penn: ~8–12% of deferred Admitted from Deferral Pool
Johns Hopkins: ~10–15% of deferred Admitted from Deferral Pool
Duke: ~8–12% of deferred Admitted from Deferral Pool

These admit rates are much higher (2x) than their RD admit rates.

The highest admit rate from deferral Pool among T20 is Cornell:
~15–20% of deferred Admitted from Deferral Pool

I suspect they admit most deferrals from private high schools where counselors can ensure the admits withdraw from all other application upon acceptance.

The deferral admit rates are really high. See, Cornell.

ED2 doesn't provide any real advantage compared to RD. That's why schools do not disclose ED2 acceptance rate any more. The only one that discloses is Rice, with ED2 acceptance rate ~6%. Most of the T20 schools have similar ED2 admit rate. It's not really worth it to sign up for a binding ED2, particularly in view of the high deferral admit rate. Agree that defrral admit is particularly used to admit private school kids.

Most of the top 20 schools do not have ED2. And if you think, say, Chicago, gives no major ED2 advantage, I can only wonder what pipe you are smoking.

Chicago ED2 still has an advantage over RD (less than 1% acceptance rate).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://standoutcollegeprep.com/college-deferral-statistics/
Ivy+ schools: 2–8% of deferred students are eventually admitted
Top 20 privates: 5–15% of deferred students eventually admitted
Top 50 schools: 10–25% of deferred students eventually admitted

Take a few T10 schools as examples:
Northwestern: ~10–15% of deferred Admitted from Deferral Pool
Penn: ~8–12% of deferred Admitted from Deferral Pool
Johns Hopkins: ~10–15% of deferred Admitted from Deferral Pool
Duke: ~8–12% of deferred Admitted from Deferral Pool

These admit rates are much higher (2x) than their RD admit rates.

The highest admit rate from deferral Pool among T20 is Cornell:
~15–20% of deferred Admitted from Deferral Pool

I suspect they admit most deferrals from private high schools where counselors can ensure the admits withdraw from all other application upon acceptance.

The deferral admit rates are really high. See, Cornell.

ED2 doesn't provide any real advantage compared to RD. That's why schools do not disclose ED2 acceptance rate any more. The only one that discloses is Rice, with ED2 acceptance rate ~6%. Most of the T20 schools have similar ED2 admit rate. It's not really worth it to sign up for a binding ED2, particularly in view of the high deferral admit rate. Agree that defrral admit is particularly used to admit private school kids.

Most of the top 20 schools do not have ED2. And if you think, say, Chicago, gives no major ED2 advantage, I can only wonder what pipe you are smoking.

Chicago RD is suicidal. So ED2 is their binding RD.

[Anonymous]

these are still pretty low odds bro!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think you need to interpret the numbers in the context.

Deferrals are mostly designed to admit private high school deferred kids. A 15% deferral admit rate in the context of private high school may be 30-50% deferral admit rate.

For our public high school, you might as well consider the deferral admit rate is close to 0%.

This is nonsense. I can’t think of a single deferral that turned into an acceptance last year at our school. Kids did better with waitlist but that was likely a limited phenomena due to Trump policies implemented in early spring,

- parent at a top private school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://standoutcollegeprep.com/college-deferral-statistics/
Ivy+ schools: 2–8% of deferred students are eventually admitted
Top 20 privates: 5–15% of deferred students eventually admitted
Top 50 schools: 10–25% of deferred students eventually admitted

Take a few T10 schools as examples:
Northwestern: ~10–15% of deferred Admitted from Deferral Pool
Penn: ~8–12% of deferred Admitted from Deferral Pool
Johns Hopkins: ~10–15% of deferred Admitted from Deferral Pool
Duke: ~8–12% of deferred Admitted from Deferral Pool

These admit rates are much higher (2x) than their RD admit rates.

The highest admit rate from deferral Pool among T20 is Cornell:
~15–20% of deferred Admitted from Deferral Pool

I suspect they admit most deferrals from private high schools where counselors can ensure the admits withdraw from all other application upon acceptance.

The deferral admit rates are really high. See, Cornell.

ED2 doesn't provide any real advantage compared to RD. That's why schools do not disclose ED2 acceptance rate any more. The only one that discloses is Rice, with ED2 acceptance rate ~6%. Most of the T20 schools have similar ED2 admit rate. It's not really worth it to sign up for a binding ED2, particularly in view of the high deferral admit rate. Agree that defrral admit is particularly used to admit private school kids.

Most of the top 20 schools do not have ED2. And if you think, say, Chicago, gives no major ED2 advantage, I can only wonder what pipe you are smoking.

Chicago ED2 still has an advantage over RD (less than 1% acceptance rate).

Even at 1% that is ~500 kids. Not a small number.

[Anonymous]

Plenty of good schools out there that might be easier admits at RD basis. Colgate and Holy Cross 2 top 25 SLACs both have January 15 th deadlines. Not Ivy but both have great outcomes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of good schools out there that might be easier admits at RD basis. Colgate and Holy Cross 2 top 25 SLACs both have January 15 th deadlines. Not Ivy but both have great outcomes.

I actually think HC is a great college to apply ED2. Big advantage, and often a better outcome than kids have who leave everything to RD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:these are still pretty low odds bro!

One in five deferrals got in Cornell. In what world you call that "pretty low"?

[Anonymous]

Holy Cross has great outcomes and very popular recently. Jan 15 deadline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mine is emotionally moving on. Chances of getting in deferred or waitlist is slim in general.

This is the way.

If you can't be with the one you love, honey
Love the one you're with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mine is emotionally moving on. Chances of getting in deferred or waitlist is slim in general.

This is the way.

If you can't be with the one you love, honey
Love the one you're with.

Love the one who loves you back. 1000%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mine is emotionally moving on. Chances of getting in deferred or waitlist is slim in general.

This is the way.

If you can't be with the one you love, honey
Love the one you're with.

Love the one who loves you back. 1000%

Wow, this is not healthy. You are equating college admissions to love?
It's a transaction, not "love", you don't have to be emotionally attached.

Steady and practical. That's what you should be doing.
A deferral is not a rejection.
Confidence without fixation.
And you are still choosing when you got accepted after deferral, it's not binding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://standoutcollegeprep.com/college-deferral-statistics/
Ivy+ schools: 2–8% of deferred students are eventually admitted
Top 20 privates: 5–15% of deferred students eventually admitted
Top 50 schools: 10–25% of deferred students eventually admitted

Take a few T10 schools as examples:
Northwestern: ~10–15% of deferred Admitted from Deferral Pool
Penn: ~8–12% of deferred Admitted from Deferral Pool
Johns Hopkins: ~10–15% of deferred Admitted from Deferral Pool
Duke: ~8–12% of deferred Admitted from Deferral Pool

These admit rates are much higher (2x) than their RD admit rates.

The highest admit rate from deferral Pool among T20 is Cornell:
~15–20% of deferred Admitted from Deferral Pool

I suspect they admit most deferrals from private high schools where counselors can ensure the admits withdraw from all other application upon acceptance.

The deferral admit rates are really high. See, Cornell.

ED2 doesn't provide any real advantage compared to RD. That's why schools do not disclose ED2 acceptance rate any more. The only one that discloses is Rice, with ED2 acceptance rate ~6%. Most of the T20 schools have similar ED2 admit rate. It's not really worth it to sign up for a binding ED2, particularly in view of the high deferral admit rate. Agree that defrral admit is particularly used to admit private school kids.

Most of the top 20 schools do not have ED2. And if you think, say, Chicago, gives no major ED2 advantage, I can only wonder what pipe you are smoking.

Chicago ED2 still has an advantage over RD (less than 1% acceptance rate).

Even at 1% that is ~500 kids. Not a small number.

You have math problems: do not spread the contagion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:these are still pretty low odds bro!

One in five deferrals got in Cornell. In what world you call that "pretty low"?

If you have a 20% chance of surviving surgery, most people would consider that "pretty low".