Love paying to spectate at a champs meet and they have no scoreboard running

[Anonymous]

As does Turkey Clause and KLI - a great way to make your money back at WC is to volunteer and get a voucher for $10.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People love to complain about Winter Classic in particular. I find it really strange.
1. It is not the custom in PVS that host clubs provide all the timers. Its literally in the meet announcement- "Participating clubs are requested to provide timers in proportion to their entries. One timer is
requested for each 25 entries.
● Volunteer Sign-Up Form will be distributed to participating teams. " This is pretty typical language for PVS meets. If you don't like it- don't participate.
2. GMU uses the gen 7 timing system, it is built into the pool. In some ways it works better, but it is also glitchy. The built into the pool part means that facilities staff has to get involved whenever it doesn't work.
3. The scoreboard is run by the GMU computer- it's not run from the tables. The table literally takes a thumb drive to the GMU office and has them load the scoreboard.
4. GMU has a lot to offer as a venue, and also some limitations. It's not like there is competition to host meets like this, pools are hard to come by.
5. I have no idea whether or not the Marlins 'make money' on the meet. But, as is true for virtually all meets, there is a lot of stuff they have no control over. I know they have really strong officials running the dry side this year (I personally am not one of them.)

And it’s not custom in PVS to charge a spectator fee. Yet this meet does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As does Turkey Clause and KLI - a great way to make your money back at WC is to volunteer and get a voucher for $10.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People love to complain about Winter Classic in particular. I find it really strange.
1. It is not the custom in PVS that host clubs provide all the timers. Its literally in the meet announcement- "Participating clubs are requested to provide timers in proportion to their entries. One timer is
requested for each 25 entries.
● Volunteer Sign-Up Form will be distributed to participating teams. " This is pretty typical language for PVS meets. If you don't like it- don't participate.
2. GMU uses the gen 7 timing system, it is built into the pool. In some ways it works better, but it is also glitchy. The built into the pool part means that facilities staff has to get involved whenever it doesn't work.
3. The scoreboard is run by the GMU computer- it's not run from the tables. The table literally takes a thumb drive to the GMU office and has them load the scoreboard.
4. GMU has a lot to offer as a venue, and also some limitations. It's not like there is competition to host meets like this, pools are hard to come by.
5. I have no idea whether or not the Marlins 'make money' on the meet. But, as is true for virtually all meets, there is a lot of stuff they have no control over. I know they have really strong officials running the dry side this year (I personally am not one of them.)

And it’s not custom in PVS to charge a spectator fee. Yet this meet does.

I’m happy to pay the KLI fee because they have Marymount students time finals. I don’t know if they are paying the Marymount students, but that is such a nice thing to have as a parent who volunteers at every meet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People love to complain about Winter Classic in particular. I find it really strange.
1. It is not the custom in PVS that host clubs provide all the timers. Its literally in the meet announcement- "Participating clubs are requested to provide timers in proportion to their entries. One timer is
requested for each 25 entries.
● Volunteer Sign-Up Form will be distributed to participating teams. " This is pretty typical language for PVS meets. If you don't like it- don't participate.
2. GMU uses the gen 7 timing system, it is built into the pool. In some ways it works better, but it is also glitchy. The built into the pool part means that facilities staff has to get involved whenever it doesn't work.
3. The scoreboard is run by the GMU computer- it's not run from the tables. The table literally takes a thumb drive to the GMU office and has them load the scoreboard.
4. GMU has a lot to offer as a venue, and also some limitations. It's not like there is competition to host meets like this, pools are hard to come by.
5. I have no idea whether or not the Marlins 'make money' on the meet. But, as is true for virtually all meets, there is a lot of stuff they have no control over. I know they have really strong officials running the dry side this year (I personally am not one of them.)

And it’s not custom in PVS to charge a spectator fee. Yet this meet does.

It’s also not a custom in PVS to have an eight lane warm-up/warm down pool. Do you think that’s free?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every.single.year

BTW - where does the spectator fee go? Bag tags? Not sure why there are meet entry fees, spectator fees, and food donations. Stop nickel and diming.

I don't think they get bag tags or caps.

My swimmer got a bag tag yesterday - they’ve gotten one every year

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People love to complain about Winter Classic in particular. I find it really strange.
1. It is not the custom in PVS that host clubs provide all the timers. Its literally in the meet announcement- "Participating clubs are requested to provide timers in proportion to their entries. One timer is
requested for each 25 entries.
● Volunteer Sign-Up Form will be distributed to participating teams. " This is pretty typical language for PVS meets. If you don't like it- don't participate.
2. GMU uses the gen 7 timing system, it is built into the pool. In some ways it works better, but it is also glitchy. The built into the pool part means that facilities staff has to get involved whenever it doesn't work.
3. The scoreboard is run by the GMU computer- it's not run from the tables. The table literally takes a thumb drive to the GMU office and has them load the scoreboard.
4. GMU has a lot to offer as a venue, and also some limitations. It's not like there is competition to host meets like this, pools are hard to come by.
5. I have no idea whether or not the Marlins 'make money' on the meet. But, as is true for virtually all meets, there is a lot of stuff they have no control over. I know they have really strong officials running the dry side this year (I personally am not one of them.)

I worked the meet yesterday and it was less of a disaster than years past. The scoreboard was glitchy at the beginning, but then it started working. And Meet Mobile was working.

The volunteer issue seems to persist, however. Not sure if there are any Marlins parents on here, but one thing that could make the meet run smoother is to allocate an exact number of volunteer spots for each team. And then hold the teams accountable for filling them versus walking the stands yelling “we need volunteers”

[Anonymous]

The people who complain the loudest do the least volunteering.

Get off your backsides, people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People love to complain about Winter Classic in particular. I find it really strange.
1. It is not the custom in PVS that host clubs provide all the timers. Its literally in the meet announcement- "Participating clubs are requested to provide timers in proportion to their entries. One timer is
requested for each 25 entries.
● Volunteer Sign-Up Form will be distributed to participating teams. " This is pretty typical language for PVS meets. If you don't like it- don't participate.
2. GMU uses the gen 7 timing system, it is built into the pool. In some ways it works better, but it is also glitchy. The built into the pool part means that facilities staff has to get involved whenever it doesn't work.
3. The scoreboard is run by the GMU computer- it's not run from the tables. The table literally takes a thumb drive to the GMU office and has them load the scoreboard.
4. GMU has a lot to offer as a venue, and also some limitations. It's not like there is competition to host meets like this, pools are hard to come by.
5. I have no idea whether or not the Marlins 'make money' on the meet. But, as is true for virtually all meets, there is a lot of stuff they have no control over. I know they have really strong officials running the dry side this year (I personally am not one of them.)

I worked the meet yesterday and it was less of a disaster than years past. The scoreboard was glitchy at the beginning, but then it started working. And Meet Mobile was working.

The volunteer issue seems to persist, however. Not sure if there are any Marlins parents on here, but one thing that could make the meet run smoother is to allocate an exact number of volunteer spots for each team. And then hold the teams accountable for filling them versus walking the stands yelling “we need volunteers”

The sign up genius had been completely full for over a week. The problem is people who signed up and then no-show...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People love to complain about Winter Classic in particular. I find it really strange.
1. It is not the custom in PVS that host clubs provide all the timers. Its literally in the meet announcement- "Participating clubs are requested to provide timers in proportion to their entries. One timer is
requested for each 25 entries.
● Volunteer Sign-Up Form will be distributed to participating teams. " This is pretty typical language for PVS meets. If you don't like it- don't participate.
2. GMU uses the gen 7 timing system, it is built into the pool. In some ways it works better, but it is also glitchy. The built into the pool part means that facilities staff has to get involved whenever it doesn't work.
3. The scoreboard is run by the GMU computer- it's not run from the tables. The table literally takes a thumb drive to the GMU office and has them load the scoreboard.
4. GMU has a lot to offer as a venue, and also some limitations. It's not like there is competition to host meets like this, pools are hard to come by.
5. I have no idea whether or not the Marlins 'make money' on the meet. But, as is true for virtually all meets, there is a lot of stuff they have no control over. I know they have really strong officials running the dry side this year (I personally am not one of them.)

I worked the meet yesterday and it was less of a disaster than years past. The scoreboard was glitchy at the beginning, but then it started working. And Meet Mobile was working.

The volunteer issue seems to persist, however. Not sure if there are any Marlins parents on here, but one thing that could make the meet run smoother is to allocate an exact number of volunteer spots for each team. And then hold the teams accountable for filling them versus walking the stands yelling “we need volunteers”

The sign up genius had been completely full for over a week. The problem is people who signed up and then no-show...

Not requiring a timer from the club of the no-show is garbage move.

[Anonymous]

When they needed 2 timers for the boys pool yesterday morning, they did make an announcement requesting two from a specific team.

I’m a Marlins parent who works multiple shifts at this meet and I agree that requiring a certain number per club might help but ultimately if people sign up and no show AND don’t remove their names from the sign up in advance, I don’t know what the solution is.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People love to complain about Winter Classic in particular. I find it really strange.
1. It is not the custom in PVS that host clubs provide all the timers. Its literally in the meet announcement- "Participating clubs are requested to provide timers in proportion to their entries. One timer is
requested for each 25 entries.
● Volunteer Sign-Up Form will be distributed to participating teams. " This is pretty typical language for PVS meets. If you don't like it- don't participate.
2. GMU uses the gen 7 timing system, it is built into the pool. In some ways it works better, but it is also glitchy. The built into the pool part means that facilities staff has to get involved whenever it doesn't work.
3. The scoreboard is run by the GMU computer- it's not run from the tables. The table literally takes a thumb drive to the GMU office and has them load the scoreboard.
4. GMU has a lot to offer as a venue, and also some limitations. It's not like there is competition to host meets like this, pools are hard to come by.
5. I have no idea whether or not the Marlins 'make money' on the meet. But, as is true for virtually all meets, there is a lot of stuff they have no control over. I know they have really strong officials running the dry side this year (I personally am not one of them.)

I worked the meet yesterday and it was less of a disaster than years past. The scoreboard was glitchy at the beginning, but then it started working. And Meet Mobile was working.

The volunteer issue seems to persist, however. Not sure if there are any Marlins parents on here, but one thing that could make the meet run smoother is to allocate an exact number of volunteer spots for each team. And then hold the teams accountable for filling them versus walking the stands yelling “we need volunteers”

The sign up genius had been completely full for over a week. The problem is people who signed up and then no-show...

Not requiring a timer from the club of the no-show is garbage move.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When they needed 2 timers for the boys pool yesterday morning, they did make an announcement requesting two from a specific team.

I’m a Marlins parent who works multiple shifts at this meet and I agree that requiring a certain number per club might help but ultimately if people sign up and no show AND don’t remove their names from the sign up in advance, I don’t know what the solution is.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People love to complain about Winter Classic in particular. I find it really strange.
1. It is not the custom in PVS that host clubs provide all the timers. Its literally in the meet announcement- "Participating clubs are requested to provide timers in proportion to their entries. One timer is
requested for each 25 entries.
● Volunteer Sign-Up Form will be distributed to participating teams. " This is pretty typical language for PVS meets. If you don't like it- don't participate.
2. GMU uses the gen 7 timing system, it is built into the pool. In some ways it works better, but it is also glitchy. The built into the pool part means that facilities staff has to get involved whenever it doesn't work.
3. The scoreboard is run by the GMU computer- it's not run from the tables. The table literally takes a thumb drive to the GMU office and has them load the scoreboard.
4. GMU has a lot to offer as a venue, and also some limitations. It's not like there is competition to host meets like this, pools are hard to come by.
5. I have no idea whether or not the Marlins 'make money' on the meet. But, as is true for virtually all meets, there is a lot of stuff they have no control over. I know they have really strong officials running the dry side this year (I personally am not one of them.)

I worked the meet yesterday and it was less of a disaster than years past. The scoreboard was glitchy at the beginning, but then it started working. And Meet Mobile was working.

The volunteer issue seems to persist, however. Not sure if there are any Marlins parents on here, but one thing that could make the meet run smoother is to allocate an exact number of volunteer spots for each team. And then hold the teams accountable for filling them versus walking the stands yelling “we need volunteers”

The sign up genius had been completely full for over a week. The problem is people who signed up and then no-show...

Not requiring a timer from the club of the no-show is garbage move.

This did not happen at the girls pool. My spouse, signed up to time other sessions, timed yesterday because of no shows not associated with our club.

[Anonymous]

They got a timer for the girls pool quickly but then called for 2 timers from a specific club on the boys pool. I have no idea if those timers were from the club they were looking for or not but people did step up.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When they needed 2 timers for the boys pool yesterday morning, they did make an announcement requesting two from a specific team.

I’m a Marlins parent who works multiple shifts at this meet and I agree that requiring a certain number per club might help but ultimately if people sign up and no show AND don’t remove their names from the sign up in advance, I don’t know what the solution is.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People love to complain about Winter Classic in particular. I find it really strange.
1. It is not the custom in PVS that host clubs provide all the timers. Its literally in the meet announcement- "Participating clubs are requested to provide timers in proportion to their entries. One timer is
requested for each 25 entries.
● Volunteer Sign-Up Form will be distributed to participating teams. " This is pretty typical language for PVS meets. If you don't like it- don't participate.
2. GMU uses the gen 7 timing system, it is built into the pool. In some ways it works better, but it is also glitchy. The built into the pool part means that facilities staff has to get involved whenever it doesn't work.
3. The scoreboard is run by the GMU computer- it's not run from the tables. The table literally takes a thumb drive to the GMU office and has them load the scoreboard.
4. GMU has a lot to offer as a venue, and also some limitations. It's not like there is competition to host meets like this, pools are hard to come by.
5. I have no idea whether or not the Marlins 'make money' on the meet. But, as is true for virtually all meets, there is a lot of stuff they have no control over. I know they have really strong officials running the dry side this year (I personally am not one of them.)

I worked the meet yesterday and it was less of a disaster than years past. The scoreboard was glitchy at the beginning, but then it started working. And Meet Mobile was working.

The volunteer issue seems to persist, however. Not sure if there are any Marlins parents on here, but one thing that could make the meet run smoother is to allocate an exact number of volunteer spots for each team. And then hold the teams accountable for filling them versus walking the stands yelling “we need volunteers”

The sign up genius had been completely full for over a week. The problem is people who signed up and then no-show...

Not requiring a timer from the club of the no-show is garbage move.

This did not happen at the girls pool. My spouse, signed up to time other sessions, timed yesterday because of no shows not associated with our club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They got a timer for the girls pool quickly but then called for 2 timers from a specific club on the boys pool. I have no idea if those timers were from the club they were looking for or not but people did step up.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When they needed 2 timers for the boys pool yesterday morning, they did make an announcement requesting two from a specific team.

I’m a Marlins parent who works multiple shifts at this meet and I agree that requiring a certain number per club might help but ultimately if people sign up and no show AND don’t remove their names from the sign up in advance, I don’t know what the solution is.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People love to complain about Winter Classic in particular. I find it really strange.
1. It is not the custom in PVS that host clubs provide all the timers. Its literally in the meet announcement- "Participating clubs are requested to provide timers in proportion to their entries. One timer is
requested for each 25 entries.
● Volunteer Sign-Up Form will be distributed to participating teams. " This is pretty typical language for PVS meets. If you don't like it- don't participate.
2. GMU uses the gen 7 timing system, it is built into the pool. In some ways it works better, but it is also glitchy. The built into the pool part means that facilities staff has to get involved whenever it doesn't work.
3. The scoreboard is run by the GMU computer- it's not run from the tables. The table literally takes a thumb drive to the GMU office and has them load the scoreboard.
4. GMU has a lot to offer as a venue, and also some limitations. It's not like there is competition to host meets like this, pools are hard to come by.
5. I have no idea whether or not the Marlins 'make money' on the meet. But, as is true for virtually all meets, there is a lot of stuff they have no control over. I know they have really strong officials running the dry side this year (I personally am not one of them.)

I worked the meet yesterday and it was less of a disaster than years past. The scoreboard was glitchy at the beginning, but then it started working. And Meet Mobile was working.

The volunteer issue seems to persist, however. Not sure if there are any Marlins parents on here, but one thing that could make the meet run smoother is to allocate an exact number of volunteer spots for each team. And then hold the teams accountable for filling them versus walking the stands yelling “we need volunteers”

The sign up genius had been completely full for over a week. The problem is people who signed up and then no-show...

Not requiring a timer from the club of the no-show is garbage move.

This did not happen at the girls pool. My spouse, signed up to time other sessions, timed yesterday because of no shows not associated with our club.

What’s your point?

[Anonymous]

What’s yours other than being miserable?

Again I have don’t get the complaining when people bailed on volunteering and they filed the roles relatively quickly.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They got a timer for the girls pool quickly but then called for 2 timers from a specific club on the boys pool. I have no idea if those timers were from the club they were looking for or not but people did step up.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When they needed 2 timers for the boys pool yesterday morning, they did make an announcement requesting two from a specific team.

I’m a Marlins parent who works multiple shifts at this meet and I agree that requiring a certain number per club might help but ultimately if people sign up and no show AND don’t remove their names from the sign up in advance, I don’t know what the solution is.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People love to complain about Winter Classic in particular. I find it really strange.
1. It is not the custom in PVS that host clubs provide all the timers. Its literally in the meet announcement- "Participating clubs are requested to provide timers in proportion to their entries. One timer is
requested for each 25 entries.
● Volunteer Sign-Up Form will be distributed to participating teams. " This is pretty typical language for PVS meets. If you don't like it- don't participate.
2. GMU uses the gen 7 timing system, it is built into the pool. In some ways it works better, but it is also glitchy. The built into the pool part means that facilities staff has to get involved whenever it doesn't work.
3. The scoreboard is run by the GMU computer- it's not run from the tables. The table literally takes a thumb drive to the GMU office and has them load the scoreboard.
4. GMU has a lot to offer as a venue, and also some limitations. It's not like there is competition to host meets like this, pools are hard to come by.
5. I have no idea whether or not the Marlins 'make money' on the meet. But, as is true for virtually all meets, there is a lot of stuff they have no control over. I know they have really strong officials running the dry side this year (I personally am not one of them.)

I worked the meet yesterday and it was less of a disaster than years past. The scoreboard was glitchy at the beginning, but then it started working. And Meet Mobile was working.

The volunteer issue seems to persist, however. Not sure if there are any Marlins parents on here, but one thing that could make the meet run smoother is to allocate an exact number of volunteer spots for each team. And then hold the teams accountable for filling them versus walking the stands yelling “we need volunteers”

The sign up genius had been completely full for over a week. The problem is people who signed up and then no-show...

Not requiring a timer from the club of the no-show is garbage move.

This did not happen at the girls pool. My spouse, signed up to time other sessions, timed yesterday because of no shows not associated with our club.

What’s your point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People love to complain about Winter Classic in particular. I find it really strange.
1. It is not the custom in PVS that host clubs provide all the timers. Its literally in the meet announcement- "Participating clubs are requested to provide timers in proportion to their entries. One timer is
requested for each 25 entries.
● Volunteer Sign-Up Form will be distributed to participating teams. " This is pretty typical language for PVS meets. If you don't like it- don't participate.
2. GMU uses the gen 7 timing system, it is built into the pool. In some ways it works better, but it is also glitchy. The built into the pool part means that facilities staff has to get involved whenever it doesn't work.
3. The scoreboard is run by the GMU computer- it's not run from the tables. The table literally takes a thumb drive to the GMU office and has them load the scoreboard.
4. GMU has a lot to offer as a venue, and also some limitations. It's not like there is competition to host meets like this, pools are hard to come by.
5. I have no idea whether or not the Marlins 'make money' on the meet. But, as is true for virtually all meets, there is a lot of stuff they have no control over. I know they have really strong officials running the dry side this year (I personally am not one of them.)

And it’s not custom in PVS to charge a spectator fee. Yet this meet does.

Exactly- it is the most expensive holiday meet. And they are always disorganized!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People love to complain about Winter Classic in particular. I find it really strange.
1. It is not the custom in PVS that host clubs provide all the timers. Its literally in the meet announcement- "Participating clubs are requested to provide timers in proportion to their entries. One timer is
requested for each 25 entries.
● Volunteer Sign-Up Form will be distributed to participating teams. " This is pretty typical language for PVS meets. If you don't like it- don't participate.
2. GMU uses the gen 7 timing system, it is built into the pool. In some ways it works better, but it is also glitchy. The built into the pool part means that facilities staff has to get involved whenever it doesn't work.
3. The scoreboard is run by the GMU computer- it's not run from the tables. The table literally takes a thumb drive to the GMU office and has them load the scoreboard.
4. GMU has a lot to offer as a venue, and also some limitations. It's not like there is competition to host meets like this, pools are hard to come by.
5. I have no idea whether or not the Marlins 'make money' on the meet. But, as is true for virtually all meets, there is a lot of stuff they have no control over. I know they have really strong officials running the dry side this year (I personally am not one of them.)

And it’s not custom in PVS to charge a spectator fee. Yet this meet does.

Exactly- it is the most expensive holiday meet. And they are always disorganized!

KLI charges separately for prelims and finals. So $10/day or $25/all session.