| The bottom is falling out of the college market, not the top |
| Oh stop. There have always been colleges that are basically open enrollment. It's not like it was impossible to get into college "before." |
You must be new here. This has been going on for a long, long time. |
This is it. My son is a legit average student and has, for the most part, applied accordingly. The only school he didn't get into so far is our state school. This wasn't a surprise. He also applied to a top 50 SLAC. This one is interesting because he isn't a lock for acceptance. He is a male, the school is 60/40 female to male, so that should help. They also need bodies. Their freshman class was down 10% this year. |
Here is the summary. This is my senior. 3.74 gpa. No honors classes. No SATs, skipped the PSATs. We are wealthy, I’ll just say it. He’s not seeking out schools so don’t know how’s he’s on lists. He’s bombarded with fee waiver emails and somehow I even get them and sometimes calls. Some are really good schools. He’s already applied and accepted the school he wants to go to and has no idea how these others got his info. He thinks his HS sold all of their info. |
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Poorly written article. The Cal State direct admission excludes Cal Poly SLO, Pomona, San Jose State, Long Beach, SDSU and Fullerton. These schools are actually difficult to get into depending on your major and regional area. The other CSUs have never and still aren’t difficult to get into..at all.
30 years ago C students outside the region easily got into SDSU. Today, they would need 3.7-4.0 depending on major outside the service area. The same is true for the UC schools. I can’t tell you how many GenX parents in the Bay Area are shocked when their UW4.0 took every AP got a 5 kid gets rejected from Davis and Irvine. 30-40 years ago these were sure safeties for every A/B student. |
| ^^ agree. And the people quoted are trying to sell services and products. The real truth is that struggling LACs fill the seats just fine with full pay international students. They don’t give a squat about demographics. And before you say “but Trump!”, nothing has changed at my LAC or the university where I went to law school where 27% of the students are international. This will continue to be the future unless something changes |
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It also helps that enrollments from international students are down. Although there are still too many from certain countries.
In 2025, India was #1 at 370,000 and China#2 with 270,000, a combined total of 640,000 seats at US colleges. |
Are these numbers for undergrad? That is a lot. |
| OP might not know about the list that goes out in May with all the colleges still accepting applications because they still have open seats. |
This makes it easier for students with lower test scores. It makes it harder for students with strong test scores simply because there is more competition. Anyway, I think some of you are probably overly focusing on your kids' particular experiences. It will not be easier at highly selective colleges in an way we will perceive. |
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Not directly relevant to most people on this board but still interesting data. I work with a first gen high school senior who is a strong but but not extraordinarily exceptional (top 5%,
test-optional) student. At last count, she has received direct admissions offers in the Common App to 92 schools. Quite a large percentage of them are schools I have literally never heard of, but there are a handful that might be interesting. But it’s just crazy. |
No. Fewer supplemental essays is due to AI. |
| The problem isn't getting in; the problem is the cost. |
Michigan State had an 84% admit rate for 2025. |