Can someone explain why it’s OK for TX but not for CA to redistrict?

[Anonymous]

It’s not ok all around. Governor Moore just launched a redistricting commission and it’s also not ok, so much so that the bipartisan senators have told him it is not a good idea.

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Anonymous wrote:Watching Prop 50 in CA. People opposed say it’s not right but support TX doing it. Trump being the biggest hypocrite here. Can someone please explain their reasoning? Not their sound bites, their arguments. Or do they have real arguments?

I have seen literally the opposite phenomenon

You're seeing people saying it's OK for Texas to have the Republicans take over virtually everything even though they only have around 56% of the voter base, but HOW DARE California neutralize what Texas is doing?

Umm, okay whatever. You got some people with some weird takes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s not ok all around. Governor Moore just launched a redistricting commission and it’s also not ok, so much so that the bipartisan senators have told him it is not a good idea.

Lol i didnt know Andy Harris posted on DCUM

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Anonymous wrote:My cousin was ranting on FB about how terrible prop 50 was and I had to remind her she was lucky to have a governor who put it to the people, instead of disenfranchising them like the Texas governor did.

I didn’t get a comment back.

[Anonymous]

OP knows all this. OP was sarcastically asking for the Republican "justification" for TX. Quit circlejerking each other

[Anonymous]

As a general principle, either both are OK or neither are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Republicans FAFO on gerrymandering.

It is the other way around. Texas started it, but after Newsom responded, several more Republican states joined in, leaving Democrats even further behind,

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans FAFO on gerrymandering.

It is the other way around. Texas started it, but after Newsom responded, several more Republican states joined in, leaving Democrats even further behind,

Keep up, Democrats are redistricting in Virginia, and Maryland and New York are coming along as well. Plus redrawing all these Republican seats for a Democratic cycle is going to lose them some.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s even more interesting is that it won in areas like the Central Valley and Orange County…not democratic strongholds at all, pretty red. The GOP is wrecking the country and people are sick of it.

Remember Texas did it without putting it to the voters. It was just Abbott and his merry men in the state legislature. Texas may not even gain those seats people are so angry.

Trump has declared war on Californians and is rounding up anyone who looks Hispanic to place them in concentration camps. Of course the Hispanic areas are voting against him. Wait till you see what happens in Texas. The Republican moved Hispanics around to get their new districts. If the midterms are like similar to last night republicans in Texas will have given up 5-6 blue seat. Though the way Trump is going it may be 6-10.

The corruption and graft of Trump is just insane not to mention the destruction of the economy and the Nazish attack on Hispanics and others.

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Anonymous wrote:Watching Prop 50 in CA. People opposed say it’s not right but support TX doing it. Trump being the biggest hypocrite here. Can someone please explain their reasoning? Not their sound bites, their arguments. Or do they have real arguments?

I don't really care if they do it or don't, but it's the results.

Have you looked at the maps. All the Texas maps look pretty natural and geographically plausible. California maps have all of these long districts with thin corridors connecting small urban areas to remote rural regions. Much like MD's district eight. Same for Louisianna and the other Southern districts that are now being contested. I mean geographically the Republican's districts seem to make much more sense.

The only one in Texas that looks kind of weird is when they connected the two cities together. But that kind of makes sense, they aren't that far apart and will have similar interests.

When the Republicans did it these didn't lead to "swing" districts, they lead to stable Republican districts stable Democrat districts. I think California stretched much further.

In the long run I think it'll lead to some unexpected wins for Republican's in California from time to time, that's the thing about Gerrymandering. It's not a guarantee, those will likely be competitive districts.

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Anonymous wrote:Watching Prop 50 in CA. People opposed say it’s not right but support TX doing it. Trump being the biggest hypocrite here. Can someone please explain their reasoning? Not their sound bites, their arguments. Or do they have real arguments?

Texas has been notified by the Department of Justice that its districts are in violation of federal law.

California's redistricting measure was passed in violation of the California constitution. It requires a certain amount of time for a bill to be made available to be read before being voted on.
This would not have worked for being on the ballot right now, so they instead took another bill that was already posted and replaced its text.

If this is true, so what? Who from the current DOJ is going to pursue and prosecute this? Name someone who could do this and not get fired.

[Anonymous]

Democrats sued Texas in 2022 over its maps. Then they sued again in 2023 over the redrawn maps, citing racism.
The gerrymander favoring Republicans is because Hispanics have been voting more Republican, so some of these minority districts that are being drawn could end up voting Republican.

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats sued Texas in 2022 over its maps. Then they sued again in 2023 over the redrawn maps, citing racism.
The gerrymander favoring Republicans is because Hispanics have been voting more Republican, so some of these minority districts that are being drawn could end up voting Republican.

Someone didn’t see how Hispanic areas voted on Tuesday.

[Anonymous]

“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

The "anti-semite" bit is literally 100% interchangeable with "Republicans." They are not operating in good faith. They are hypocrites and they know it, and don't care one bit. It's all about grabbing power by any means necessary.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Republicans FAFO on gerrymandering.

It is the other way around. Texas started it, but after Newsom responded, several more Republican states joined in, leaving Democrats even further behind,

Keep up, Democrats are redistricting in Virginia, and Maryland and New York are coming along as well. Plus redrawing all these Republican seats for a Democratic cycle is going to lose them some.

+1

Believe that their advantage may have shrunk if the Tuesday results carry forward - they can't give everyone a double-digit advantage so any district that may now be in the +5-7 margin are now vulnerable. The VA House of Dem delegates raised their seats from 51->64. They didn't get to 64 without knocking off some seats with margins of +7 or more.

And the Dems should've just been silent? That's such the GOP playbook - we can behave badly, but Dems gotta follow the rules.