What SAT score/GPA/ and # of AP will give you a reasonable shot at a top 20 college from a NOVA public school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trying to figure out where the lottery line/actual chance actually is for a T20.

1500, 3.85/4.6, 12 AP?

Well two years ago my 1560, 3.98/4.5, 9 AP+2DE kid was denied by 2 ivies and WL at UVA and NEU...

Where did they end up?

Ended up with 8 acceptances. Attending UMD with some merit. CS major. Loves it there, so it all worked out.

[Anonymous]

A lot depends on what APs were taken. Also, Naviance shows gpa at time of graduation. Usually it’s lower when they apply in the fall. Regular job or volunteer, or did they hold leadership positions?

[Anonymous]

Need to get SAT up to 1530 or ideally 1550 or above

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trying to figure out where the lottery line/actual chance actually is for a T20.

1500, 3.85/4.6, 12 AP?

Well two years ago my 1560, 3.98/4.5, 9 AP+2DE kid was denied by 2 ivies and WL at UVA and NEU...

Expected…without more. This is the holistic view and why other posters said you need more than just scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot depends on what APs were taken. Also, Naviance shows gpa at time of graduation. Usually it’s lower when they apply in the fall. Regular job or volunteer, or did they hold leadership positions?

Sometimes the GPA is higher when they apply and falls due to senior slide.

[Anonymous]

For Top 20s it’s all about your spike/ECs. You have to be singularly focused in a particular area and have impressive talents, skills or achievements. Or have legacy status LOL!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trying to figure out where the lottery line/actual chance actually is for a T20.

1500, 3.85/4.6, 12 AP?

Well two years ago my 1560, 3.98/4.5, 9 AP+2DE kid was denied by 2 ivies and WL at UVA and NEU...

Expected…without more. This is the holistic view and why other posters said you need more than just scores.

I bet UVA would have admitted if ED. This is a common mistake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trying to figure out where the lottery line/actual chance actually is for a T20.

1500, 3.85/4.6, 12 AP?

Well two years ago my 1560, 3.98/4.5, 9 AP+2DE kid was denied by 2 ivies and WL at UVA and NEU...

Expected…without more. This is the holistic view and why other posters said you need more than just scores.

I bet UVA would have admitted if ED. This is a common mistake.

Mistake? I guess your view is high stats kids should settle on UVA even if they don’t want to ED there bc they have a good chance for admission there compared to the school they really want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trying to figure out where the lottery line/actual chance actually is for a T20.

1500, 3.85/4.6, 12 AP?

Well two years ago my 1560, 3.98/4.5, 9 AP+2DE kid was denied by 2 ivies and WL at UVA and NEU...

Expected…without more. This is the holistic view and why other posters said you need more than just scores.

I bet UVA would have admitted if ED. This is a common mistake.

Going to UVA is a common mistake as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trying to figure out where the lottery line/actual chance actually is for a T20.

1500, 3.85/4.6, 12 AP?

Except for a few schools (like McGill in Canada which is numbers only) it's not a scientific equation. It's holistic. If someone has top stats but their teacher recs make them sound self-absorbed or not empathetic, some schools won't admit. They really are looking for consistency across essays/teacher and counselor recs/interviews if applicable/videos if applicable. They aren't just looking for high grades, high SAT, top rigor. A lot of those people without hooks or without an especially appealing personality/character as demonstrated by letters/essays/activities makes it to the final rounds but ultimately gets cut.

As parents, I know we are all trying to make sense and find patterns to predict what is a very subjective grading process without patterns. We have to accept that we just can't know what is going to happen and that's ok.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trying to figure out where the lottery line/actual chance actually is for a T20.

1500, 3.85/4.6, 12 AP?

Well two years ago my 1560, 3.98/4.5, 9 AP+2DE kid was denied by 2 ivies and WL at UVA and NEU...

Expected…without more. This is the holistic view and why other posters said you need more than just scores.

I bet UVA would have admitted if ED. This is a common mistake.

Going to UVA is a common mistake as well.

I disagree. It's not necessarily a mistake to ED, IF that college is your top choice and you're confident it’s the best fit academically, socially, financially.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trying to figure out where the lottery line/actual chance actually is for a T20.

1500, 3.85/4.6, 12 AP?

Except for a few schools (like McGill in Canada which is numbers only) it's not a scientific equation. It's holistic. If someone has top stats but their teacher recs make them sound self-absorbed or not empathetic, some schools won't admit. They really are looking for consistency across essays/teacher and counselor recs/interviews if applicable/videos if applicable. They aren't just looking for high grades, high SAT, top rigor. A lot of those people without hooks or without an especially appealing personality/character as demonstrated by letters/essays/activities makes it to the final rounds but ultimately gets cut.

As parents, I know we are all trying to make sense and find patterns to predict what is a very subjective grading process without patterns. We have to accept that we just can't know what is going to happen and that's ok.

True.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trying to figure out where the lottery line/actual chance actually is for a T20.

1500, 3.85/4.6, 12 AP?

Well two years ago my 1560, 3.98/4.5, 9 AP+2DE kid was denied by 2 ivies and WL at UVA and NEU...

Expected…without more. This is the holistic view and why other posters said you need more than just scores.

Im aware jackass. Thread is about scores. Didnt ask for resume.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trying to figure out where the lottery line/actual chance actually is for a T20.

1500, 3.85/4.6, 12 AP?

Well two years ago my 1560, 3.98/4.5, 9 AP+2DE kid was denied by 2 ivies and WL at UVA and NEU...

Expected…without more. This is the holistic view and why other posters said you need more than just scores.

I bet UVA would have admitted if ED. This is a common mistake.

Mistake? I guess your view is high stats kids should settle on UVA even if they don’t want to ED there bc they have a good chance for admission there compared to the school they really want.

I know several who have ended up at a much lower ranked school because they shot their ED shot too high and then got boxed out of the good EA’s. It’s a common story. Kids who, in hindsight, should have just ED’d to UVA. It’s a known risk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trying to figure out where the lottery line/actual chance actually is for a T20.

1500, 3.85/4.6, 12 AP?

Well two years ago my 1560, 3.98/4.5, 9 AP+2DE kid was denied by 2 ivies and WL at UVA and NEU...

Expected…without more. This is the holistic view and why other posters said you need more than just scores.

I bet UVA would have admitted if ED. This is a common mistake.

Mistake? I guess your view is high stats kids should settle on UVA even if they don’t want to ED there bc they have a good chance for admission there compared to the school they really want.

I know several who have ended up at a much lower ranked school because they shot their ED shot too high and then got boxed out of the good EA’s. It’s a common story. Kids who, in hindsight, should have just ED’d to UVA. It’s a known risk.

You know several kids, their stats, round of application, where the ended up and the quality of each institution? Wow. Thats impressive.