Heard a podcast claiming 30% of college students disabled?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. The “disabilities” accommodation system is being fully gamed by UMC parents to squeeze out whatever additional advantage they can get for their kid. Meanwhile those of us with kids with actual disabilities see that they are still stigmatized because they aren’t the right type of disability. And here I am wanting my kid to take tests with no extended time (because I think he can, and I want him to learn to focus under pressure) but realizing that this puts him at too much of a disadvantage since all the kids with “ADHD”
get double time. But what really rankles is the parents who claim their kids are so disabled for certain purposes (ie when there is an advantage) but then either a) make arguments for excluding my kid or b) their kid becomes suddenly neurotypical when the label would be a detriment.

I think most of the disabilities are fabricated adhd diagnosis bought by umc white parents gaming the system from high school to college.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. The “disabilities” accommodation system is being fully gamed by UMC parents to squeeze out whatever additional advantage they can get for their kid. Meanwhile those of us with kids with actual disabilities see that they are still stigmatized because they aren’t the right type of disability. And here I am wanting my kid to take tests with no extended time (because I think he can, and I want him to learn to focus under pressure) but realizing that this puts him at too much of a disadvantage since all the kids with “ADHD”
get double time. But what really rankles is the parents who claim their kids are so disabled for certain purposes (ie when there is an advantage) but then either a) make arguments for excluding my kid or b) their kid becomes suddenly neurotypical when the label would be a detriment.

I think most of the disabilities are fabricated adhd diagnosis bought by umc white parents gaming the system from high school to college.

PP here. To be more charitable, I think that the intense anxiety and competition around college and parenting makes parents hyper vigilant to any kind of difference. Schools also are very quick to suggest that a kid might need a diagnosis - especially private schools, which I understand often make medicating kids a condition of continued enrollment. Ritalin will make any child more compliant (for a while!)

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. The “disabilities” accommodation system is being fully gamed by UMC parents to squeeze out whatever additional advantage they can get for their kid. Meanwhile those of us with kids with actual disabilities see that they are still stigmatized because they aren’t the right type of disability. And here I am wanting my kid to take tests with no extended time (because I think he can, and I want him to learn to focus under pressure) but realizing that this puts him at too much of a disadvantage since all the kids with “ADHD”
get double time. But what really rankles is the parents who claim their kids are so disabled for certain purposes (ie when there is an advantage) but then either a) make arguments for excluding my kid or b) their kid becomes suddenly neurotypical when the label would be a detriment.

I think most of the disabilities are fabricated adhd diagnosis bought by umc white parents gaming the system from high school to college.

Absolutely true.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. The “disabilities” accommodation system is being fully gamed by UMC parents to squeeze out whatever additional advantage they can get for their kid. Meanwhile those of us with kids with actual disabilities see that they are still stigmatized because they aren’t the right type of disability. And here I am wanting my kid to take tests with no extended time (because I think he can, and I want him to learn to focus under pressure) but realizing that this puts him at too much of a disadvantage since all the kids with “ADHD”
get double time. But what really rankles is the parents who claim their kids are so disabled for certain purposes (ie when there is an advantage) but then either a) make arguments for excluding my kid or b) their kid becomes suddenly neurotypical when the label would be a detriment.

I think most of the disabilities are fabricated adhd diagnosis bought by umc white parents gaming the system from high school to college.

Absolutely true.

You are wrong, they usually start in the middle school.

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It’s almost like, when people with disabilities don’t die young AND/OR have equal access to education, more of them attend college.

Is this…really shocking?

There have been medical advances & laws put into place within Gen Xers lifetimes so THIS EXACT OUTCOME CAN HAPPEN

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What's shocking is that these types of accommodations aren't offered in jobs after college.

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Anonymous wrote:surprised it is only 30%.

asthma, seasonal allergies, food allergies combined would be about 30%. Many of these may not report but they could and schools encourage it.

Add in anxiety, depression, adhd, dyslexia and related, physical and visual impairments..

-psyD who writes and reads college disability forms: all of the above diagnoses are used to determine a number of things from air conditioning/location/single-room housing to academic accommodations.

Yeah, no. You don’t typically register with the university disability office for allergies or asthma. You can; 95% don’t.

That’s why you will see a range of 10%-35% at schools. The higher range includes a majority without asthma or allergies.

For example, Stanford: 38% https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=Stanford&s=all&id=243744#general
MIT: 7.5% https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=MIT&s=all&id=166683#general

Not that many more allergic kids at Stanford, if you get my drift.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. The “disabilities” accommodation system is being fully gamed by UMC parents to squeeze out whatever additional advantage they can get for their kid. Meanwhile those of us with kids with actual disabilities see that they are still stigmatized because they aren’t the right type of disability. And here I am wanting my kid to take tests with no extended time (because I think he can, and I want him to learn to focus under pressure) but realizing that this puts him at too much of a disadvantage since all the kids with “ADHD”
get double time. But what really rankles is the parents who claim their kids are so disabled for certain purposes (ie when there is an advantage) but then either a) make arguments for excluding my kid or b) their kid becomes suddenly neurotypical when the label would be a detriment.

I think most of the disabilities are fabricated adhd diagnosis bought by umc white parents gaming the system from high school to college.

Absolutely true.

Maybe not most, but the higher the level school, the more likely rich parents made darned sure their borderline ADHD kid took an untimed SAT and continues to take untimed tests.

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Got to trust W&L SAT averages more than almost any other selective school: 3% only https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=Washington+and+Lee&s=all&id=234207#general

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. The “disabilities” accommodation system is being fully gamed by UMC parents to squeeze out whatever additional advantage they can get for their kid. Meanwhile those of us with kids with actual disabilities see that they are still stigmatized because they aren’t the right type of disability. And here I am wanting my kid to take tests with no extended time (because I think he can, and I want him to learn to focus under pressure) but realizing that this puts him at too much of a disadvantage since all the kids with “ADHD”
get double time. But what really rankles is the parents who claim their kids are so disabled for certain purposes (ie when there is an advantage) but then either a) make arguments for excluding my kid or b) their kid becomes suddenly neurotypical when the label would be a detriment.

I think most of the disabilities are fabricated adhd diagnosis bought by umc white parents gaming the system from high school to college.

Absolutely true.

Maybe not most, but the higher the level school, the more likely rich parents made darned sure their borderline ADHD kid took an untimed SAT and continues to take untimed tests.

It's too bad that DCUMers fit perfectly into that mold of UMC white college educated liberal parents who never want to discuss this uncomfortable issue.

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Smith and Stanford seem to be the clear “winners” at 38%.
CIT only 12%.

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My DC was a Head TA at top 10 university and he was in charge of grading exams, papers etc.

He said about 25-30% get caught cheating and that about the same % asks for special "accommodations" based on ADH/ADHD etc. every single time there is a test, paper etc.

He thinks most of those seeking untimed test, extra time etc. were fake.

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Anonymous wrote:What's shocking is that these types of accommodations aren't offered in jobs after college.

Employers have no legal requirement to excuse employees from basic requirements of the job.

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I heard that even in law schools students are getting exemptions from timed finals.

It kind of blows my mind that in 2 decades we have basically thrown out measuring processing speed as a type of academic skill relevant to assessment. I guess I am biased since speed and tests are my strong point, but I do think that the capacity to absorb and understand information quickly is highly relevant to a lot of metrics of ability.

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Anonymous wrote:Smith and Stanford seem to be the clear “winners” at 38%.
CIT only 12%.

It may be based in part on other factors related to the school. For instance if the school has mandatory meal plan, that will encourage kids with food allergies and/or eating restrictions to register for an accommodation to get an exception. Schools with good dorm facilities may have fewer registrations, as there is less need to register an accommodation to get a single (necesssry for kids with things like Tourette’s), bathroom access (IBS) or decent hvac (asthma, chagrin’s). My kid is considering submitting an accommodation request to get out of the mandatory meal plan — currently we pay like 4K a year for food that they cannot eat due to a chronic GI issue that requires specific foods not easily available in the very bad dining halls. At another school, that probably wouldn’t be necessary. Another example is stuff like priority parking — not necessary at many schools but essential at others.