Do athletic recruits get decisions before ED?

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Anonymous wrote:What about high academic D3's? Do coaches know in advance?

Basically, everyone knows in advance - but it can be unwise to go fully public (like posting on a high school college commitment site) because things can happen. Only at the Likely Letter stage has an admissions officer said "yes." Even then, technically something could happen. But, at that point, the "yes" is based on an actual application. So, athletes are advised to wait until decisions are released, for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Our son committed to his D1 school in February of his junior year. We asked the coach if he was guaranteed admission. The one word answer was “yes.” Our son went through the motions and filled out the application. He was admitted.

Did he say yes, before he saw his transcript?

He sent them his grades. They weren’t worried. They had his PSAT as well. They had 10+ conversations on Zoom. There were no mysteries.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What about high academic D3's? Do coaches know in advance?

Basically, everyone knows in advance - but it can be unwise to go fully public (like posting on a high school college commitment site) because things can happen. Only at the Likely Letter stage has an admissions officer said "yes." Even then, technically something could happen. But, at that point, the "yes" is based on an actual application. So, athletes are advised to wait until decisions are released, for everyone.

Even at elite academic schools like Williams, Chicago or MIT?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What about high academic D3's? Do coaches know in advance?

Basically, everyone knows in advance - but it can be unwise to go fully public (like posting on a high school college commitment site) because things can happen. Only at the Likely Letter stage has an admissions officer said "yes." Even then, technically something could happen. But, at that point, the "yes" is based on an actual application. So, athletes are advised to wait until decisions are released, for everyone.

Can you get a Likely Letter before you fill out the common app/school application? i.e. just based on pre-read data shared and meeting with admission/coach team?

[Anonymous]

D1 P4 Olympic sport recruit - My kid (junior) got an offer and made her verbal commitment only after she submitted her transcript and SAT scores to the admissions office and the coach got academic approval to recruit her. The minimum SAT score for recruiting was 1400.

She still has to apply ED in the fall of her senior year and get accepted through normal channels; there is a preference for recruited athletes, but not as much as you might think. This process apparently varies from school to school. We understand that Northwestern, for example, has a separate, earlier application process for recruited athletes.

I think kids are posting their verbal commitments on social media, which strikes me as a little precarious. In my daughter's sport, no one does this, and everyone is very cagey about where they have committed until acceptances are in hand senior year.

[Anonymous]

You just never know until ED decisions come out for D3. Look at what Wesleyan did a couple of years ago to some of the athletes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:D1 P4 Olympic sport recruit - My kid (junior) got an offer and made her verbal commitment only after she submitted her transcript and SAT scores to the admissions office and the coach got academic approval to recruit her. The minimum SAT score for recruiting was 1400.

She still has to apply ED in the fall of her senior year and get accepted through normal channels; there is a preference for recruited athletes, but not as much as you might think. This process apparently varies from school to school. We understand that Northwestern, for example, has a separate, earlier application process for recruited athletes.

I think kids are posting their verbal commitments on social media, which strikes me as a little precarious. In my daughter's sport, no one does this, and everyone is very cagey about where they have committed until acceptances are in hand senior year.

Everyone needs to understand that football and basketball have their own set of rules as by far the top revenue sports, so one can't compare the process for a Duke basketball player or Vanderbilt football player vs. all the other sports.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our son committed to his D1 school in February of his junior year. We asked the coach if he was guaranteed admission. The one word answer was “yes.” Our son went through the motions and filled out the application. He was admitted.

Did he say yes, before he saw his transcript?

He sent them his grades. They weren’t worried. They had his PSAT as well. They had 10+ conversations on Zoom. There were no mysteries.

Yea coaches can scan grades and know if it will go through admissions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our son committed to his D1 school in February of his junior year. We asked the coach if he was guaranteed admission. The one word answer was “yes.” Our son went through the motions and filled out the application. He was admitted.

Did he say yes, before he saw his transcript?

He sent them his grades. They weren’t worried. They had his PSAT as well. They had 10+ conversations on Zoom. There were no mysteries.

Yea coaches can scan grades and know if it will go through admissions.

I'd like to point out to people who think "athletes have it easier"... this student (as an example) had 10+ interviews with the coaches over Zoom (and most student do this with multiple coaches), in addition to performing in front of them, creating highlight tapes (usually), sending emails, getting rejections, traveling distances to be at tournaments the coaches attend, etc.

So it's nice to know early but it's not "easier".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I saw a cople of college announcements coming in already at my kids HS. So far they are only athletic recruits. Does that mean they got their positive decision before writing any essays or filling out a common app? I thought recruited athletes still had to fill out an app and apply ED even with a verbal that the coach was going to support their app.

A girl on my DS's HS swim team knew where she was headed by about Feb of junior year, but she was not allowed to reveal the school until much later. She went to an Ivy. Other girls in our HS (current seniors this year) have already announced their commitment to D1 basketball and soccer programs, it was on our school's Instagram page.

Otherwise we learn on our school's "fall signing day" which is in November. Technically that's when they sign a letter of intent, but I've never seen a kid NOT go to the school they indicate on that day. It's after ED deadline in most cases, but before any student would have gotten an ED response. So they know.

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Anonymous wrote:Our son committed to his D1 school in February of his junior year. We asked the coach if he was guaranteed admission. The one word answer was “yes.” Our son went through the motions and filled out the application. He was admitted.

Did he say yes, before he saw his transcript?

He sent them his grades. They weren’t worried. They had his PSAT as well. They had 10+ conversations on Zoom. There were no mysteries.

Yea coaches can scan grades and know if it will go through admissions.

I'd like to point out to people who think "athletes have it easier"... this student (as an example) had 10+ interviews with the coaches over Zoom (and most student do this with multiple coaches), in addition to performing in front of them, creating highlight tapes (usually), sending emails, getting rejections, traveling distances to be at tournaments the coaches attend, etc.

So it's nice to know early but it's not "easier".

I mean...it's a different kind of harder and easier. Getting the coach to want to commit to you was harder, but the actual application and admittance was far easier than a typical applicant.

It's also a different story again for strong athletes in football, basketball, baseball and softball. If you go look at an AAU team like Team Durant, every single kid on the 17U team has 10+ D1 offers. It's one of the top AAU teams in the country, so it's no surprise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You just never know until ED decisions come out for D3. Look at what Wesleyan did a couple of years ago to some of the athletes.

Wait what did Wes do a few yrs back?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You just never know until ED decisions come out for D3. Look at what Wesleyan did a couple of years ago to some of the athletes.

I'm not familiar. What happened with Wesleyan?

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Anonymous wrote:Our son committed to his D1 school in February of his junior year. We asked the coach if he was guaranteed admission. The one word answer was “yes.” Our son went through the motions and filled out the application. He was admitted.

Did he say yes, before he saw his transcript?

He sent them his grades. They weren’t worried. They had his PSAT as well. They had 10+ conversations on Zoom. There were no mysteries.

Yea coaches can scan grades and know if it will go through admissions.

I'd like to point out to people who think "athletes have it easier"... this student (as an example) had 10+ interviews with the coaches over Zoom (and most student do this with multiple coaches), in addition to performing in front of them, creating highlight tapes (usually), sending emails, getting rejections, traveling distances to be at tournaments the coaches attend, etc.

So it's nice to know early but it's not "easier".

I mean...it's a different kind of harder and easier. Getting the coach to want to commit to you was harder, but the actual application and admittance was far easier than a typical applicant.

It's also a different story again for strong athletes in football, basketball, baseball and softball. If you go look at an AAU team like Team Durant, every single kid on the 17U team has 10+ D1 offers. It's one of the top AAU teams in the country, so it's no surprise.

The application process is different and harder than filling out the application and writing essays.

Okay about Team Durant, but what about Team "nobody"... those kids are writing emails, calling coaches, traveling to tournaments, walking up to coaches they don't know and trying to get their ear, writing more emails, taking phone calls from coaches who tell them they are great then getting ghosted.

If the admissions department called your student and said we saw your application and we love you only to have that admissions officer realize a few more good apps showed up and they no longer like you and ghost you and refuse your phone calls and you are 15 years old, your head would explode.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You just never know until ED decisions come out for D3. Look at what Wesleyan did a couple of years ago to some of the athletes.

Wait what did Wes do a few yrs back?

I don't know what that specific post is talking about but often kids get committed to a school, the coach is fired and all the offers are rescinded.