are Dartmouth and Brown easier than WASP schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reality are all the Ivy's ae much easier once you get there than even flagship state schools.

Less classes, less expectation, no real grading, lots of fluff classes.

Ivy students take 10 less classes than students are flagship universities add in some APs and they are taking 15 less classes.

You can graduate a state school in three years with AP credit, but not an Ivy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reality are all the Ivy's ae much easier once you get there than even flagship state schools.

Less classes, less expectation, no real grading, lots of fluff classes.

Ivy students take 10 less classes than students are flagship universities add in some APs and they are taking 15 less classes.

Ha. Omg. Not. UVA is so much easier—having kids at both. Not even remotely comparable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reality are all the Ivy's ae much easier once you get there than even flagship state schools.

Less classes, less expectation, no real grading, lots of fluff classes.

Ivy students take 10 less classes than students are flagship universities add in some APs and they are taking 15 less classes.

I thought Ivies don't accept many AP credits towards graduation compared to state schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality are all the Ivy's ae much easier once you get there than even flagship state schools.

Less classes, less expectation, no real grading, lots of fluff classes.

Ivy students take 10 less classes than students are flagship universities add in some APs and they are taking 15 less classes.

You can graduate a state school in three years with AP credit, but not an Ivy

Yes. They don’t take any high school credits.

You need 4 years of college courses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality are all the Ivy's ae much easier once you get there than even flagship state schools.

Less classes, less expectation, no real grading, lots of fluff classes.

Ivy students take 10 less classes than students are flagship universities add in some APs and they are taking 15 less classes.

You can graduate a state school in three years with AP credit, but not an Ivy

Yes. They don’t take any high school credits.

You need 4 years of college courses.

Also- credits are misleading at Ivies. I questioned the 4 courses my kid was signed up for- but 3 had additional 1 hour or 2 hour required seminars as part of the course (class time)—so there’s way more built into a course credit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality are all the Ivy's ae much easier once you get there than even flagship state schools.

Less classes, less expectation, no real grading, lots of fluff classes.

Ivy students take 10 less classes than students are flagship universities add in some APs and they are taking 15 less classes.

You can graduate a state school in three years with AP credit, but not an Ivy

Yes. They don’t take any high school credits.

You need 4 years of college courses.

Also- credits are misleading at Ivies. I questioned the 4 courses my kid was signed up for- but 3 had additional 1 hour or 2 hour required seminars as part of the course (class time)—so there’s way more built into a course credit.

+100 apples and oranges

You can’t compare them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality are all the Ivy's ae much easier once you get there than even flagship state schools.

Less classes, less expectation, no real grading, lots of fluff classes.

Ivy students take 10 less classes than students are flagship universities add in some APs and they are taking 15 less classes.

You can graduate a state school in three years with AP credit, but not an Ivy

Yes. They don’t take any high school credits.

You need 4 years of college courses.

Also- credits are misleading at Ivies. I questioned the 4 courses my kid was signed up for- but 3 had additional 1 hour or 2 hour required seminars as part of the course (class time)—so there’s way more built into a course credit.

+1 my kid’s private HS had a ridiculous amount of reading. Our attic is filled to the brim with the books both my kids had to read in high school…

At the Ivy- he says the required reading for one week is insane even compared to that very rigorous environment he came from.

I see it ver much like good public vs good private HS—even in the best school districts it’s just not comparable. No re-takes, no standard based learning, accountability, required AP exams, essays written in class, a huge amount of reading…it’s different. You would not see it unless you have had kids in both.

[Anonymous]

Dartmouth, Brown, WASP have similar caliber students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality are all the Ivy's ae much easier once you get there than even flagship state schools.

Less classes, less expectation, no real grading, lots of fluff classes.

Ivy students take 10 less classes than students are flagship universities add in some APs and they are taking 15 less classes.

You can graduate a state school in three years with AP credit, but not an Ivy

Yes. They don’t take any high school credits.

You need 4 years of college courses.

Also- credits are misleading at Ivies. I questioned the 4 courses my kid was signed up for- but 3 had additional 1 hour or 2 hour required seminars as part of the course (class time)—so there’s way more built into a course credit.

+1 my kid’s private HS had a ridiculous amount of reading. Our attic is filled to the brim with the books both my kids had to read in high school…

At the Ivy- he says the required reading for one week is insane even compared to that very rigorous environment he came from.

I see it ver much like good public vs good private HS—even in the best school districts it’s just not comparable. No re-takes, no standard based learning, accountability, required AP exams, essays written in class, a huge amount of reading…it’s different. You would not see it unless you have had kids in both.

I love that parents like you respond with first hand knowledge rather than the ones who spout off random opinions, but it would be even more useful if you actually named the college as well as the major, or at least whether your kid is in humanities or sciences/engineering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe statistically because of class size but not substantively - Dartmouth and Brown's admitted students generally have stronger profiles.

Generally they don’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a nonsensical thread of no value.

Moderator - please delete.

troll

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality are all the Ivy's ae much easier once you get there than even flagship state schools.

Less classes, less expectation, no real grading, lots of fluff classes.

Ivy students take 10 less classes than students are flagship universities add in some APs and they are taking 15 less classes.

Ha. Omg. Not. UVA is so much easier—having kids at both. Not even remotely comparable.

I disagree completely. I have an Ivy kid and a kid at UVA and UVA is much harder because many of the courses (STEM) are curved. The Ivy kid is getting grades they earn which are almost always As, the UVA kid is battling it out in classes where only 10% of the class gets an A via a curve.

The mileage may vary by major but this is our experience with STEM and math majors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Son at one, best friend at the other.

Very rigorous. My son went to a really rigorous private and was very well-prepared, but he described it as 'high school was 6 hours of school and 2 hours of homework a day; college is 2-3 hours of school and 6 hours of work a day'.

That said, he is really enjoying it.

I'm going to guess WASP schools are very similar. He almost chose one over the Ivy, but liked the mid-size school vs tiny better.

All of them, B and D and WASP, prioritize undergrad learning so you can't go wrong with any of them. Focus on best fit.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a nonsensical thread of no value.

Moderator - please delete.

"Moderator" has a name. Feel free to look it up and to use it. Since you're on his site.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Williams and Swarthmore are known to be the biggest grinds, followed by Amherst and Dartmouth. Brown and Pomona are fabulous schools, but are not known for grind culture in the same way.

I will say the distinctions are getting finer now that it's so g-darn tough to get into any of these schools. The vibes may differ a bit, but all of these schools are chock full of grinders now.

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Yes, this.