are Dartmouth and Brown easier than WASP schools?

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Anonymous wrote:I have a sophomore at Dartmouth. It's tricky because their quarters are 10 weeks, basically 8.5 to 9 weeks once the exam week, etc. are factored in.
In one of these time blocks they will cover the same material that a semester school covers in 16 weeks so it's particularly rigorous for things like chemistry, physics etc. where a standardized amount of material needs to be taught.

If you have a yearlong course, say intro economics, organic chemistry, first year physics,
wouldn’t it just be broken up into 3 quarters, not 2 semesters? So the amount of time spent overall is the same, you just get 3 grades on your transcript, not 2. I can see how quarter system could
be more rushed for classes that are normally 1 semester though.

with physics, you can include third semester intro topics (waves, light, optics, thermodynamics, relativity, modern physics) that would normally have to get chopped up to try and fit them into the two main Mechanics and EM semesters in a two semester cours.

I think the second poster is not accurately capturing this. Kids at Dartmouth on quarter system generally take 3, sometimes 4, classes per quarter for a total of 9 classes (sometimes 10) per year, just like kids at many (most?) semester-based schools, who take 4-5 classes per semester or 9-10 classes per year. Each class theoretically covers the same thing. So kid at Dartmouth who takes 3 quarters of a particular subject is covering the same as a kid who takes 2 semesters. Each class is more intense, but there are fewer of them per quarter -- but again, same number per year.

[Anonymous]

OP here, the friend is my kid they did visits at the 2 WASP nescac schools and the 2 ivies - kids on the nescac teams ALL work waaay harder than the 2 ivies

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a sophomore at Dartmouth. It's tricky because their quarters are 10 weeks, basically 8.5 to 9 weeks once the exam week, etc. are factored in.
In one of these time blocks they will cover the same material that a semester school covers in 16 weeks so it's particularly rigorous for things like chemistry, physics etc. where a standardized amount of material needs to be taught.

If you have a yearlong course, say intro economics, organic chemistry, first year physics,
wouldn’t it just be broken up into 3 quarters, not 2 semesters? So the amount of time spent overall is the same, you just get 3 grades on your transcript, not 2. I can see how quarter system could
be more rushed for classes that are normally 1 semester though.

with physics, you can include third semester intro topics (waves, light, optics, thermodynamics, relativity, modern physics) that would normally have to get chopped up to try and fit them into the two main Mechanics and EM semesters in a two semester cours.

I think the second poster is not accurately capturing this. Kids at Dartmouth on quarter system generally take 3, sometimes 4, classes per quarter for a total of 9 classes (sometimes 10) per year, just like kids at many (most?) semester-based schools, who take 4-5 classes per semester or 9-10 classes per year. Each class theoretically covers the same thing. So kid at Dartmouth who takes 3 quarters of a particular subject is covering the same as a kid who takes 2 semesters. Each class is more intense, but there are fewer of them per quarter -- but again, same number per year.

Sorry-- meant to say Kid at Dartmouth who takes 3 quarters is covering same as kid who takes 3 semesters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a sophomore at Dartmouth. It's tricky because their quarters are 10 weeks, basically 8.5 to 9 weeks once the exam week, etc. are factored in.
In one of these time blocks they will cover the same material that a semester school covers in 16 weeks so it's particularly rigorous for things like chemistry, physics etc. where a standardized amount of material needs to be taught.

If you have a yearlong course, say intro economics, organic chemistry, first year physics,
wouldn’t it just be broken up into 3 quarters, not 2 semesters? So the amount of time spent overall is the same, you just get 3 grades on your transcript, not 2. I can see how quarter system could
be more rushed for classes that are normally 1 semester though.

with physics, you can include third semester intro topics (waves, light, optics, thermodynamics, relativity, modern physics) that would normally have to get chopped up to try and fit them into the two main Mechanics and EM semesters in a two semester cours.

I think the second poster is not accurately capturing this. Kids at Dartmouth on quarter system generally take 3, sometimes 4, classes per quarter for a total of 9 classes (sometimes 10) per year, just like kids at many (most?) semester-based schools, who take 4-5 classes per semester or 9-10 classes per year. Each class theoretically covers the same thing. So kid at Dartmouth who takes 3 quarters of a particular subject is covering the same as a kid who takes 2 semesters. Each class is more intense, but there are fewer of them per quarter -- but again, same number per year.

Sorry-- meant to say Kid at Dartmouth who takes 3 quarters is covering same as kid who takes 3 semesters.

Wouldn't it be 2 semesters? 3 quarters -> 1 year, 2 semesters -> 1 year.

[Anonymous]

Yes if applying ED if the applicant is not a recruited athlete.

WASP ED favors recruited athletes and FGLI/Questbridge given how few ED spots they have to offer.

Don't just go by percent jump at SLACs. It's misleading. SLACs only have a few hundred ED acceptance spots to offer, and they're generally taken by athlete/FGLI/Questbridge/donor kids.

SLACs = selective LACs. It's totally fine to ED at Macalester or Oberlin or Bryn Mawr. There you will get a bump! But not really at WASP+.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a sophomore at Dartmouth. It's tricky because their quarters are 10 weeks, basically 8.5 to 9 weeks once the exam week, etc. are factored in.
In one of these time blocks they will cover the same material that a semester school covers in 16 weeks so it's particularly rigorous for things like chemistry, physics etc. where a standardized amount of material needs to be taught.

If you have a yearlong course, say intro economics, organic chemistry, first year physics,
wouldn’t it just be broken up into 3 quarters, not 2 semesters? So the amount of time spent overall is the same, you just get 3 grades on your transcript, not 2. I can see how quarter system could
be more rushed for classes that are normally 1 semester though.

with physics, you can include third semester intro topics (waves, light, optics, thermodynamics, relativity, modern physics) that would normally have to get chopped up to try and fit them into the two main Mechanics and EM semesters in a two semester cours.

I think the second poster is not accurately capturing this. Kids at Dartmouth on quarter system generally take 3, sometimes 4, classes per quarter for a total of 9 classes (sometimes 10) per year, just like kids at many (most?) semester-based schools, who take 4-5 classes per semester or 9-10 classes per year. Each class theoretically covers the same thing. So kid at Dartmouth who takes 3 quarters of a particular subject is covering the same as a kid who takes 2 semesters. Each class is more intense, but there are fewer of them per quarter -- but again, same number per year.

Sorry-- meant to say Kid at Dartmouth who takes 3 quarters is covering same as kid who takes 3 semesters.

Wouldn't it be 2 semesters? 3 quarters -> 1 year, 2 semesters -> 1 year.

No -- that's the point. The classes are the same -- a class in the quarter system covers the same as a class in the semester system. So each class covers the material more intensely/quickly. The trade off is that you take fewer classes at a time, but in the end the same number of classes over the course of a year. Otherwise the quarter kids would be learning less overall because they can usually only take three classes at a time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a sophomore at Dartmouth. It's tricky because their quarters are 10 weeks, basically 8.5 to 9 weeks once the exam week, etc. are factored in.
In one of these time blocks they will cover the same material that a semester school covers in 16 weeks so it's particularly rigorous for things like chemistry, physics etc. where a standardized amount of material needs to be taught.

If you have a yearlong course, say intro economics, organic chemistry, first year physics,
wouldn’t it just be broken up into 3 quarters, not 2 semesters? So the amount of time spent overall is the same, you just get 3 grades on your transcript, not 2. I can see how quarter system could
be more rushed for classes that are normally 1 semester though.

with physics, you can include third semester intro topics (waves, light, optics, thermodynamics, relativity, modern physics) that would normally have to get chopped up to try and fit them into the two main Mechanics and EM semesters in a two semester cours.

I think the second poster is not accurately capturing this. Kids at Dartmouth on quarter system generally take 3, sometimes 4, classes per quarter for a total of 9 classes (sometimes 10) per year, just like kids at many (most?) semester-based schools, who take 4-5 classes per semester or 9-10 classes per year. Each class theoretically covers the same thing. So kid at Dartmouth who takes 3 quarters of a particular subject is covering the same as a kid who takes 2 semesters. Each class is more intense, but there are fewer of them per quarter -- but again, same number per year.

Sorry-- meant to say Kid at Dartmouth who takes 3 quarters is covering same as kid who takes 3 semesters.

Wouldn't it be 2 semesters? 3 quarters -> 1 year, 2 semesters -> 1 year.

No -- that's the point. The classes are the same -- a class in the quarter system covers the same as a class in the semester system. So each class covers the material more intensely/quickly. The trade off is that you take fewer classes at a time, but in the end the same number of classes over the course of a year. Otherwise the quarter kids would be learning less overall because they can usually only take three classes at a time.

Oh- I don’t agree at all lol. Nothing my dd learns on a quarter system is faster paced- it’s the same schedule.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes if applying ED if the applicant is not a recruited athlete.

WASP ED favors recruited athletes and FGLI/Questbridge given how few ED spots they have to offer.

Don't just go by percent jump at SLACs. It's misleading. SLACs only have a few hundred ED acceptance spots to offer, and they're generally taken by athlete/FGLI/Questbridge/donor kids.

SLACs = selective LACs. It's totally fine to ED at Macalester or Oberlin or Bryn Mawr. There you will get a bump! But not really at WASP+.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes if applying ED if the applicant is not a recruited athlete.

WASP ED favors recruited athletes and FGLI/Questbridge given how few ED spots they have to offer.

Don't just go by percent jump at SLACs. It's misleading. SLACs only have a few hundred ED acceptance spots to offer, and they're generally taken by athlete/FGLI/Questbridge/donor kids.

SLACs = selective LACs. It's totally fine to ED at Macalester or Oberlin or Bryn Mawr. There you will get a bump! But not really at WASP+.

A reminder that Questbridge is a different process than ED and is not included in the ED acceptance figures.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes if applying ED if the applicant is not a recruited athlete.

WASP ED favors recruited athletes and FGLI/Questbridge given how few ED spots they have to offer.

Don't just go by percent jump at SLACs. It's misleading. SLACs only have a few hundred ED acceptance spots to offer, and they're generally taken by athlete/FGLI/Questbridge/donor kids.

SLACs = selective LACs. It's totally fine to ED at Macalester or Oberlin or Bryn Mawr. There you will get a bump! But not really at WASP+.

A reminder that Questbridge is a different process than ED and is not included in the ED acceptance figures.

Yes, it is for most schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:omg wtf no.

people on this board are crazy about teeny tiny LACs when hardly anyone outside the state they're in has heard of any of them. they get much fewer applicants because not that many people want to go.

Omg wtf are you really this stupid? They are among the wealthiest and hardest to gain admission to schools in the country.

A close friend does recruiting for a Wall Street firm, and they love to interview at all the top SLACs. I went to a SLAC outside of the Top 10 and upon graduation had multiple job offers from management consulting and investment banking companies. The top companies in competitive industries are well aware of these colleges, trust me.