DC traffic cameras issued 3.3 MILLION tickets last year

[Anonymous]

100% a money grab. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise. They will say it's about safety, but if they didn't get any money for it, they wouldn't do it.

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Anonymous wrote:The number almost doubled from the year before. DC now issues 8 times as many tickets each year as it did a decade ago. We issue twice as many tickets as Chicago, which is SO MUCH BIGGER! Pretty insane.

Hard to see what difference it's made to safety. Here's how many people the police say were killed each year in DC by speeding drivers:

2023: 22
2022: 9
2021: 12
2020: 15
2019: 10
2018: 9
2017: 12
2016: 8
2015: 11
2014: 12
2013: 11

Not really seeing a pattern.

Tickets are really expensive here too. In NYC, it's $50. In DC, it starts at $100 and goes up from there.

[Anonymous]

Here’s a dc account of the program in the WaPo story above. The warnings didn’t work, but I think that was really about getting the predictive model off the ground in a way that was non-threatening.

https://thelabprojects.dc.gov/blog-high-risk-driver-interview

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Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....

There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.

The stop sign cameras are the worst. Interesting there's only two of them in Ward 3.

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Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....

There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.

That's because it's more crowded and more people speed there.

I can tell you that there is a speed camera on the section of Eastern Avenue I live near that has made a huge difference in my family's safety when we turn out of our neighborhood onto Eastern Avenue. Additionally, it's possible to cross the street out of our residential neighborhood and walk to our closest grocery store far more safely than before the speed camera. I'm grateful for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....

There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.

That's because it's more crowded and more people speed there.

I can tell you that there is a speed camera on the section of Eastern Avenue I live near that has made a huge difference in my family's safety when we turn out of our neighborhood onto Eastern Avenue. Additionally, it's possible to cross the street out of our residential neighborhood and walk to our closest grocery store far more safely than before the speed camera. I'm grateful for it.

Seems like some major equity issues when all the cameras are in poor black neighborhoods and hardly any in the rich white neighborhoods, especially when the city is carpet bombing them with very expensive tickets. Also, obviously, each ward has approximately the same population.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's about the money. Watch the number of tickets go up to replace the $1 billion Trump withdrew from the city.

We’ll get our $1B back next week if Leader Schumer allows it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....

There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.

That's because it's more crowded and more people speed there.

I can tell you that there is a speed camera on the section of Eastern Avenue I live near that has made a huge difference in my family's safety when we turn out of our neighborhood onto Eastern Avenue. Additionally, it's possible to cross the street out of our residential neighborhood and walk to our closest grocery store far more safely than before the speed camera. I'm grateful for it.

Seems like some major equity issues when all the cameras are in poor black neighborhoods and hardly any in the rich white neighborhoods, especially when the city is carpet bombing them with very expensive tickets. Also, obviously, each ward has approximately the same population.

Should we also do an overlay of tax payments and government expenditures by Ward? You know, for equity’s sake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's about the money. Watch the number of tickets go up to replace the $1 billion Trump withdrew from the city.

They're using traffic tickets to replace the revenue lost from the collapse of property taxes paid by businesses downtown.

[Anonymous]

How much money was actually collected?

Why hasn’t the mayor made a big deal out of the distribution/location of these cameras?

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Anonymous wrote:
I think the evolution of the cameras should be from revenue stream to identifying and restricting dangerous drivers. But I know that will cause a lot of privacy/due process problems. To me though, we already heavily regulate who can drive and under what terms and it feels like we should be taking more of those drivers off the road rather than just fining them.

This is a great point and I hope to see this evolution. We know who the bad drivers are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The number almost doubled from the year before. DC now issues 8 times as many tickets each year as it did a decade ago. We issue twice as many tickets as Chicago, which is SO MUCH BIGGER! Pretty insane.

Hard to see what difference it's made to safety. Here's how many people the police say were killed each year in DC by speeding drivers:

2023: 22
2022: 9
2021: 12
2020: 15
2019: 10
2018: 9
2017: 12
2016: 8
2015: 11
2014: 12
2013: 11

Not really seeing a pattern.

It's hard to see what difference any of the "traffic calming" measures DC has adopted have made.

[Anonymous]

The share of tickets that are actually paid has been dropping for years. Barely half are now paid. People are not taking the tickets seriously. Probably because there are so many of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....

There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.

That's because it's more crowded and more people speed there.

I can tell you that there is a speed camera on the section of Eastern Avenue I live near that has made a huge difference in my family's safety when we turn out of our neighborhood onto Eastern Avenue. Additionally, it's possible to cross the street out of our residential neighborhood and walk to our closest grocery store far more safely than before the speed camera. I'm grateful for it.

Seems like some major equity issues when all the cameras are in poor black neighborhoods and hardly any in the rich white neighborhoods, especially when the city is carpet bombing them with very expensive tickets. Also, obviously, each ward has approximately the same population.

Equity is dead. Racial profiling is the law by EO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The share of tickets that are actually paid has been dropping for years. Barely half are now paid. People are not taking the tickets seriously. Probably because there are so many of them.

The National Guard, FBI and DHS are running traffic stops in white neighborhoods but have failed to arrest people with outstanding tickets. Though they did arrest anyone with a gun.