Make American Test Optional Again

[Anonymous]

Sir, this is the DCUM college message board for neurotic helicopter parents. The people you are looking for are over at the Wendy’s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What whole first page?

Can you understand that we all look at different news?

National tests are the only way to accurately compare the academic achievement of kids from different school systems.

You are extraordinarily ignorant on multiple levels. Do better.

New poster.
PP is talking about the First page of this colleges forum. Some threads were started years before but the topic doesn't change and people still have same or similar questions.
The interest in test prep and ideas on how to improve scores after August SAT results were released this past week. Since schools that went test optional during pandemic are test required again or test flexible, students are back to game the system. test prep services and tutors making $. And college board makes their $.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Woke up this morning to find the whole first page full of SAT. Wall to wall. It's nauseating.
Don't kids have better things to do?

TikTok dances, garage bands, or peaceful coups against cafeteria pizza?
We don't need more bubbles filled in with No. 2 pencils.
We need freedom ... freedom from test scores, freedom from AP courses, freedom from grades.

Yes, acceptances should be based on the number of body piercings you have.

Should really be on the number of non AP classes one takes. What is the point of college if trying to take college courses while still in high school? Each college wants to think their college is "special" and offers a special curriculum. Shouldn't colleges want their incoming students to experience that instead of trying to admit students who are trying to skip over the intro courses?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Woke up this morning to find the whole first page full of SAT. Wall to wall. It's nauseating.
Don't kids have better things to do?

TikTok dances, garage bands, or peaceful coups against cafeteria pizza?
We don't need more bubbles filled in with No. 2 pencils.
We need freedom ... freedom from test scores, freedom from AP courses, freedom from grades.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Woke up this morning to find the whole first page full of SAT. Wall to wall. It's nauseating.
Don't kids have better things to do?

TikTok dances, garage bands, or peaceful coups against cafeteria pizza?
We don't need more bubbles filled in with No. 2 pencils.
We need freedom ... freedom from test scores, freedom from AP courses, freedom from grades.

Yeah, noticed the same. Soooo many SAT threads bubbled up! I had to refresh the page to make sure it wasn't a "SAT" search tab. 🙂

The 8/23 SAT results must have been brutal.

[Anonymous]

Test scores are highly influenced by social determinants. They are standardized if all background factors are the same - so if everyone taking it is in a high income bracket, has educated parents, access to educational supports throughout their education, access to rigorous high school curriculum, access to test prep and study resources, access to similar technology - then they are useful.

[Anonymous]

There is about a 400 point difference in scores if you look solely at household income. Those in the top quartile score about 400 points higher than those in the bottom quartile.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What whole first page?

Can you understand that we all look at different news?

National tests are the only way to accurately compare the academic achievement of kids from different school systems.

You are extraordinarily ignorant on multiple levels. Do better.

New poster.
PP is talking about the First page of this colleges forum. Some threads were started years before but the topic doesn't change and people still have same or similar questions.
The interest in test prep and ideas on how to improve scores after August SAT results were released this past week. Since schools that went test optional during pandemic are test required again or test flexible, students are back to game the system. test prep services and tutors making $. And college board makes their $.

So?

I paid for test prep. It’s still the least inequitable way to evaluate kids, because you can’t test prep your way to a good score if you’re stupid. Test prep only makes you reach your natural potential, whatever it is. For some, it’s quite limited.

But with money, you can do any number of extra-curricular activities that will make a difference in college apps, because US colleges are entirely wrong-headed about selecting candidates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What whole first page?

Can you understand that we all look at different news?

National tests are the only way to accurately compare the academic achievement of kids from different school systems.

You are extraordinarily ignorant on multiple levels. Do better.

New poster.
PP is talking about the First page of this colleges forum. Some threads were started years before but the topic doesn't change and people still have same or similar questions.
The interest in test prep and ideas on how to improve scores after August SAT results were released this past week. Since schools that went test optional during pandemic are test required again or test flexible, students are back to game the system. test prep services and tutors making $. And college board makes their $.

So?

I paid for test prep. It’s still the least inequitable way to evaluate kids, because you can’t test prep your way to a good score if you’re stupid. Test prep only makes you reach your natural potential, whatever it is. For some, it’s quite limited.

But with money, you can do any number of extra-curricular activities that will make a difference in college apps, because US colleges are entirely wrong-headed about selecting candidates.

Justify, Justify....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Better to use test scores than to hand out admission spots to jackasses who had their mommy start a fake charity (that is abandoned once the kid is admitted).

Don't forget about fake testing accommodations.

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately for the TO crowd more and more universities are going back to test required, and that's for a reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want the US to align itself with the rest of the world and only consider academics. Test scores should be a lot more central to the applications than they are now.

Nobody’s stopping you from moving to South Korea or India for their superior high stakes test based education system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want the US to align itself with the rest of the world and only consider academics. Test scores should be a lot more central to the applications than they are now.

Nobody’s stopping you from moving to South Korea or India for their superior high stakes test based education system.

Unless the PP is a citizen of those countries, there is actually something stopping them from moving to those countries.

But, even so, more and more universities here are moving to test required, for a reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Better to use test scores than to hand out admission spots to jackasses who had their mommy start a fake charity (that is abandoned once the kid is admitted).

Don't forget about fake testing accommodations.

But taking the test six times and cherry picking the best results from different tests is still cool, right?

[Anonymous]

Of the top 75 colleges, including SLACs, how many are test required?