Easier for girls to get into top engineering schools?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Our daughter did not get into Duke, Vandy, Penn, Michigan OOS for engineering/CS. High stats (1500+) and highest rigor for her school. Good ECs but not great for STEM. I thought being a girl would help but these schools are just incredibly tough for these majors.
She got merit from Pitt, Lehigh, Case for engineering.


Public high school? What EC’s? Where did she end up?
Anonymous
What I am seeing and hearing is all high stat students are applying to the same schools..

Michigan
Chicago
Cornell
Vandy
Duke
CMU
Penn
MIT
UVA

Boys girls, public private high schools , engineering, pre law, pre med, everyone I know is literally applying to these schools..all high stats.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What I am seeing and hearing is all high stat students are applying to the same schools..

Michigan
Chicago
Cornell
Vandy
Duke
CMU
Penn
MIT
UVA

Boys girls, public private high schools , engineering, pre law, pre med, everyone I know is literally applying to these schools..all high stats.

Lmao you think all high stat students are applying to Vanderbiltđź’€
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What I am seeing and hearing is all high stat students are applying to the same schools..

Michigan
Chicago
Cornell
Vandy
Duke
CMU
Penn
MIT
UVA

Boys girls, public private high schools , engineering, pre law, pre med, everyone I know is literally applying to these schools..all high stats.

Lmao you think all high stat students are applying to Vanderbiltđź’€


The ones I know, yes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here- so UVA doesn’t give any merit aid? What about Michigan? CMU? Duke?


Michigan concentrates on offering income-based in-state financial aid. Then income-based out-of-state financial aid for really desirable candidates. I hear that's limited and there can be hiccups with it.

High-stats kids in Michigan tend to be privileged and full-pay. The same is generally true of out-of-staters per word of mouth on DCUM and what I read about Michigan in the media and what my son sees as an enrolled in-state student.

It's not very likely to get good merit as OOS at Michigan based on what I read here. We are in-state, so my info is just anecdotal. But it makes sense. There are simply too many excellent applicants and obviously the yield rate would be low on the highest stat kids because they have choices. So it would be a lottery to get noticed and then I don't get the sense at any of the universities I researched that scholarships continually turn over when people decline. There are a few rounds of awarding and that's it.

There are a handful of full-rides to the whole university and some endowed scholarships for STEM majors within LSA. I did not research COE scholarships.

If you read r/uofm, Michigan students often tell inquiring kids not to go broke paying for U of M. That's a reality-based perspective on weighing hundreds of thousands of dollars in added costs vs. the many good things about a Michigan education. I would counsel UMD or UVA for in-staters. Or Pitt, my undergrad university, if it's more affordable. (Michigan is my grad university - I'm a fan of both.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Our daughter did not get into Duke, Vandy, Penn, Michigan OOS for engineering/CS. High stats (1500+) and highest rigor for her school. Good ECs but not great for STEM. I thought being a girl would help but these schools are just incredibly tough for these majors.
She got merit from Pitt, Lehigh, Case for engineering.


Applying from a private or public HS? Girls with top STEM rigor and stats from top privates get into engineering at those schools
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Our daughter did not get into Duke, Vandy, Penn, Michigan OOS for engineering/CS. High stats (1500+) and highest rigor for her school. Good ECs but not great for STEM. I thought being a girl would help but these schools are just incredibly tough for these majors.
She got merit from Pitt, Lehigh, Case for engineering.


Somewhere on the web, maybe on DCUM, there was recent (2020+) gender-specific data for CWRU Engineering. Many of the specialties are balanced now or skewed female. A few remain male skewed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What I am seeing and hearing is all high stat students are applying to the same schools..

Michigan
Chicago
Cornell
Vandy
Duke
CMU
Penn
MIT
UVA

Boys girls, public private high schools , engineering, pre law, pre med, everyone I know is literally applying to these schools..all high stats.


If it's true they are "all high stats", they must be coming from public high schools. Top privates that send kids to these schools only give out 1-5 3.9s a year and would go for 5-7 years without a single 4.0. A full pay, 3.8 from these high schools who ED get into all these schools pretty regularly except MIT and maybe Penn. Chicago and Cornell are likelies for this profile.
Anonymous
So basically its not easier for girls unless you are a URM? Same as boys? What is the general consensus
Anonymous
Denied for in-state UVA, VT. Coming from FCPS. Female 720 SAT Math, AP Physics C, AP Chem, AP Calc BC, unweighted 3.8, President Science Honor Society, elected Homecoming Court, 2 Varsity Sports, Employed.

I think it's BS our country wants more female STEM professionals.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:For a certain demographics, it might be slightly easier for the girls of said certain demographics than the boys of said certain demographics. But still high stats high rigor is required. A large portion of the female engineering admits are of said certain demographics.
It's probably true of girls of all demographics.

There are more asian women than men at MIT.
Most women at MIT are asian.

If you are a non-asian woman, make that obvious in your application.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So basically its not easier for girls unless you are a URM? Same as boys? What is the general consensus


Varies by school and engineering specialty if that affects admission.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Depends on what kind of engineering. BME is oversubscribed by women; civil, mechanical, electrical undersubscribed.


This. Computer Engineering also undersubscribed by women. CS is starting to be oversubscribed by women.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Denied for in-state UVA, VT. Coming from FCPS. Female 720 SAT Math, AP Physics C, AP Chem, AP Calc BC, unweighted 3.8, President Science Honor Society, elected Homecoming Court, 2 Varsity Sports, Employed.

I think it's BS our country wants more female STEM professionals.


What about SAT Verbal? And 4 years of a modern language? AP English?

UVa Engineering prefers candidates who have the whole package include all items I asked about. It is not unusual for median SAT Verbal in UVa Engineering to be higher than same stat in A&S.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here- so UVA doesn’t give any merit aid? What about Michigan? CMU? Duke?


UVa has zero "merit aid" for OOS. It has need-based aid focusing on in-state.

Do not know about the others mentioned.
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