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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP here- so UVA doesn’t give any merit aid? What about Michigan? CMU? Duke?[/quote]

Michigan concentrates on offering income-based in-state financial aid.  Then income-based out-of-state financial aid for really desirable candidates.  I hear that's limited and there can be hiccups with it.

High-stats kids in Michigan tend to be privileged and full-pay.  The same is generally true of out-of-staters per word of mouth on DCUM and what I read about Michigan in the media and what my son sees as an enrolled in-state student.

It's not very likely to get good merit as OOS at Michigan based on what I read here.  We are in-state, so my info is just anecdotal.  But it makes sense.  There are simply too many excellent applicants and obviously the yield rate would be low on the highest stat kids because they have choices.  So it would be a lottery to get noticed and then I don't get the sense at any of the universities I researched that scholarships continually turn over when people decline.  There are a few rounds of awarding and that's it.

There are a handful of full-rides to the whole university and some endowed scholarships for STEM majors within LSA.  I did not research COE scholarships.

If you read r/uofm, Michigan students often tell inquiring kids not to go broke paying for U of M.  That's a reality-based perspective on weighing hundreds of thousands of dollars in added costs vs. the many good things about a Michigan education. I would counsel UMD or UVA for in-staters.  Or Pitt, my undergrad university, if it's more affordable. (Michigan is my grad university - I'm a fan of both.)[/quote]

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