Organic foods

Anonymous
People get wound up about organic and still consume significant amounts of alcohol and lots of processed sugar based products. I find that funny.

We buy produce based on experience with certain vendors/stores over time. Sometimes the organic stuff looks and tastes like dog shit. So sometimes it’s organic, sometimes it’s not.

If you are eating mostly unprocessed produce and lean meats you are ahead of 99% of the world’s population anyways. Add in a decent amount of exercise and you are very privileged to be able to do that and you are approaching 99.95%
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Absent any actual evidence that the residual pesticides and herbicides left on conventional produce is at or beyond a toxicity level for humans, there’s no reason to eat “organic”, especially without blinded comparison studies. It is all a marketing scam.

The best they have is that x substance is toxic in far larger doses than humans are exposed to in produce. The second best are p-hacked correlative studies that only the science illiterate believe are causal.

Root vegetables do concentrate an awful lot of chemicals, particularly heavy metals. But this is due to the pollution of our air and water, which gets into the soil. Some conventional substances add to the concentrations, but then again so do some organic.

The most compelling reason for so-called organic practices is for the overall environmental health. The idea that organic produce makes a difference in personal health is pretty silly.

As for people now being the first generation to be less healthy than the last… we’ve seen a recent decline in life expectancy. Car accidents, gun violence, suicide, opioids/drugs, have also gone way up.

Cancer survivability has actually improved. More cancer is being diagnosed than in the past which is multi factorial. There’s even some who are investigating whether we diagnose and treat too much cancer (ie the cancer people have they won’t die from).

As for autism… I mean, I don’t even know where to start with that. The autism diagnosis has broadened so much, it’s thrown around to explain everything, and it’s not caused by conventional produce (which was MORE common in previous decades).

MAHA has brainwashed people.


Monsanto and Dow Chemical has entered the chat.


You’re so smug and so convinced you’re right. Yet you’re being completely fleeced
Anonymous
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MAHA has brainwashed people.



I've been eating this way for over 25 years, long before I ever heard of RFK Jr. It used to be a hippie liberal thing and now all the liberals are eating absolute trash and a lot of conservatives are eating the way the hippies used to eat. It's done a complete 180. I don't understand it.
Anonymous
I only purchase and eat organic produce, milk, cheese, butter, oils, eggs, grains, rice and meats for my family and myself. We are very healthy. We also grow a lot of our own food for 1/2 of the year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:People get wound up about organic and still consume significant amounts of alcohol and lots of processed sugar based products. I find that funny.

We buy produce based on experience with certain vendors/stores over time. Sometimes the organic stuff looks and tastes like dog shit. So sometimes it’s organic, sometimes it’s not.

If you are eating mostly unprocessed produce and lean meats you are ahead of 99% of the world’s population anyways. Add in a decent amount of exercise and you are very privileged to be able to do that and you are approaching 99.95%


Alcohol can be organic. I drink an organic grain based vodka and organic corn-based beer. And I do Barre/Pilates 6x a week. I still am the same size I was in college, post 3 children too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People get wound up about organic and still consume significant amounts of alcohol and lots of processed sugar based products. I find that funny.

We buy produce based on experience with certain vendors/stores over time. Sometimes the organic stuff looks and tastes like dog shit. So sometimes it’s organic, sometimes it’s not.

If you are eating mostly unprocessed produce and lean meats you are ahead of 99% of the world’s population anyways. Add in a decent amount of exercise and you are very privileged to be able to do that and you are approaching 99.95%


Alcohol can be organic. I drink an organic grain based vodka and organic corn-based beer. And I do Barre/Pilates 6x a week. I still am the same size I was in college, post 3 children too.


Organic alcohol isn’t any healthier for you than alcohol that isn’t “organic”.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People get wound up about organic and still consume significant amounts of alcohol and lots of processed sugar based products. I find that funny.

We buy produce based on experience with certain vendors/stores over time. Sometimes the organic stuff looks and tastes like dog shit. So sometimes it’s organic, sometimes it’s not.

If you are eating mostly unprocessed produce and lean meats you are ahead of 99% of the world’s population anyways. Add in a decent amount of exercise and you are very privileged to be able to do that and you are approaching 99.95%


Alcohol can be organic. I drink an organic grain based vodka and organic corn-based beer. And I do Barre/Pilates 6x a week. I still am the same size I was in college, post 3 children too.


I am hoping this is not serious. Amy Winehouse was thin too.

I am not telling you not to drink alcohol in reasonable amounts. I am telling you that fixating on "organic" while simultaneously ingesting poison intentionally is not very bright. Just eat real food and keep up the exercise and don't fixate on organic - it won't make any difference in the long term. I am confident studies will show that 30 years from now. I guess we will have to wait.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People get wound up about organic and still consume significant amounts of alcohol and lots of processed sugar based products. I find that funny.

We buy produce based on experience with certain vendors/stores over time. Sometimes the organic stuff looks and tastes like dog shit. So sometimes it’s organic, sometimes it’s not.

If you are eating mostly unprocessed produce and lean meats you are ahead of 99% of the world’s population anyways. Add in a decent amount of exercise and you are very privileged to be able to do that and you are approaching 99.95%


Alcohol can be organic. I drink an organic grain based vodka and organic corn-based beer. And I do Barre/Pilates 6x a week. I still am the same size I was in college, post 3 children too.


I am hoping this is not serious. Amy Winehouse was thin too.

I am not telling you not to drink alcohol in reasonable amounts. I am telling you that fixating on "organic" while simultaneously ingesting poison intentionally is not very bright. Just eat real food and keep up the exercise and don't fixate on organic - it won't make any difference in the long term. I am confident studies will show that 30 years from now. I guess we will have to wait.


Will eating organic help us so we are around to see those results?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Absent any actual evidence that the residual pesticides and herbicides left on conventional produce is at or beyond a toxicity level for humans, there’s no reason to eat “organic”, especially without blinded comparison studies. It is all a marketing scam.

The best they have is that x substance is toxic in far larger doses than humans are exposed to in produce. The second best are p-hacked correlative studies that only the science illiterate believe are causal.

Root vegetables do concentrate an awful lot of chemicals, particularly heavy metals. But this is due to the pollution of our air and water, which gets into the soil. Some conventional substances add to the concentrations, but then again so do some organic.

The most compelling reason for so-called organic practices is for the overall environmental health. The idea that organic produce makes a difference in personal health is pretty silly.

As for people now being the first generation to be less healthy than the last… we’ve seen a recent decline in life expectancy. Car accidents, gun violence, suicide, opioids/drugs, have also gone way up.

Cancer survivability has actually improved. More cancer is being diagnosed than in the past which is multi factorial. There’s even some who are investigating whether we diagnose and treat too much cancer (ie the cancer people have they won’t die from).

As for autism… I mean, I don’t even know where to start with that. The autism diagnosis has broadened so much, it’s thrown around to explain everything, and it’s not caused by conventional produce (which was MORE common in previous decades).

MAHA has brainwashed people.


This is a good example of just taking a contrary position rather than thinking critically. Since MAHA is going after food, now there will be knee jerk in the other direction. Unfortunately that will set us all back. Many of us were buying organic long before MAHA and there are many things that can be done to improve food quality in America.

If anyone has listened to the podcast Sold a Story about how liberals rebelled against phonics because they didn’t want to support George Bush …. It feels very similar to me, when I read posts like the above.
Anonymous
Autism increased at almost an identical rate as organic food sales. What are they not telling us?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Autism increased at almost an identical rate as organic food sales. What are they not telling us?


Well, I might say, correlation isn't causation. However, the posters on DCUM are too smart for me. I are enjiner.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Autism increased at almost an identical rate as organic food sales. What are they not telling us?


Link?
A study?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People get wound up about organic and still consume significant amounts of alcohol and lots of processed sugar based products. I find that funny.

We buy produce based on experience with certain vendors/stores over time. Sometimes the organic stuff looks and tastes like dog shit. So sometimes it’s organic, sometimes it’s not.

If you are eating mostly unprocessed produce and lean meats you are ahead of 99% of the world’s population anyways. Add in a decent amount of exercise and you are very privileged to be able to do that and you are approaching 99.95%


Alcohol can be organic. I drink an organic grain based vodka and organic corn-based beer. And I do Barre/Pilates 6x a week. I still am the same size I was in college, post 3 children too.
Alcohol causes breast cancer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Autism increased at almost an identical rate as organic food sales. What are they not telling us?


Link?
A study?


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