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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Absent any actual evidence that the residual pesticides and herbicides left on conventional produce is at or beyond a toxicity level for humans, there’s no reason to eat “organic”, especially  without blinded comparison studies.  It is all a marketing scam.

The best they have is that x substance is toxic in far larger doses than humans are exposed to in produce.  The second best are p-hacked correlative studies that only the science illiterate believe are causal.

Root vegetables do concentrate an awful lot of chemicals, particularly heavy metals.  But this is due to the pollution of our air and water, which gets into the soil.  Some conventional substances add to the concentrations, but then again so do some organic.

The most compelling reason for so-called organic practices is for the overall environmental health.  The idea that organic produce makes a difference in personal health is pretty silly.

As for people now being the first generation to be less healthy than the last… we’ve seen a recent decline in life expectancy.  Car accidents, gun violence, suicide, opioids/drugs, have also gone way up.

Cancer survivability has actually improved.  More cancer is being diagnosed than in the past which is multi factorial.  There’s even some who are investigating whether we diagnose and treat too much cancer (ie the cancer people have they won’t die from).

As for autism… I mean, I don’t even know where to start with that.  The autism diagnosis has broadened so much, it’s thrown around to explain everything, and it’s not caused by conventional produce (which was MORE common in previous decades).

MAHA has brainwashed people.  [/quote]

This is a good example of just taking a contrary position rather than thinking critically. Since MAHA is going after food, now there will be knee jerk in the other direction. Unfortunately that will set us all back. Many of us were buying organic long before MAHA and there are many things that can be done to improve food quality in America.

If anyone has listened to the podcast Sold a Story about how liberals rebelled against phonics because they didn’t want to support George Bush …. It feels very similar to me, when I read posts like the above.[/quote]

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