Why do you think Northwestern is not in the “ivy plus“ bracket?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:stanford
duke
northwestern
chicago
hopkins
MIT
caltech

are the equivalent non-ivies. I wonder who the 8th is.

There isn’t one. Ivies plus these 7 are the T15 everyone agrees on.

None in the next tier are there (Rice CMU washU Vanderbilt ND etc)

[Anonymous]

I’m sure Northwestern now so glad they turned down the Ivy League for the Big 10-way more prestige and money as an athletic conference!!

[Anonymous]

There is such a DMV bias here. If Hopkins is top 15, it is 15. It is a great school. I am not hating on it. But it is not on par with the others. And Northwestern is a slight notch down as well (on par with Hopkins).

Again, not insulting either. Being 14 and 15 is truly incredible.

And Ivies will always be Ivies. It is a cottage industry here to insult the non-HYP ivies. Guess what - they will always be incredibly desirable. They will always lose plenty of kids to other schools. But they will always be at or near the top.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is such a DMV bias here. If Hopkins is top 15, it is 15. It is a great school. I am not hating on it. But it is not on par with the others. And Northwestern is a slight notch down as well (on par with Hopkins).

Again, not insulting either. Being 14 and 15 is truly incredible.

And Ivies will always be Ivies. It is a cottage industry here to insult the non-HYP ivies. Guess what - they will always be incredibly desirable. They will always lose plenty of kids to other schools. But they will always be at or near the top.

I don’t think brown, Columbia, or Cornell are near the top. They are excellent schools but could easily trend down.

[Anonymous]

Northwestern has the whole package- go Wildcats! How many Ivies can boast a beautiful lakefront location near a major city, big time (well…) sports and a good number of top academic programs and grad schools (law, medicine, engineering, journalism, business, etc.)

[Anonymous]

Ivys are coasting on their reputations-the cat is now out of the bag with all of the recent bad press and reputations with employers. Many kids would pick NU over all Ivys except HYP. They deserve their high rankings on USNWR.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ivys are coasting on their reputations-the cat is now out of the bag with all of the recent bad press and reputations with employers. Many kids would pick NU over all Ivys except HYP. They deserve their high rankings on USNWR.

This is just not true. My kid isn’t even considering applying to NW. it isn’t as desirable for a backup reach.

[Anonymous]

Look, the Ivies are for cultural capital:prestige. Prestige in this country has historically come from New England. California has the edge on money and innovation hence Stanford, Caltech. But the Midwest has none of these things. Northwestern might provide a better education and job prospects and be higher in US News rankings but that’s not how people calculate these things for themselves. They care about bragging rights in their communities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look, the Ivies are for cultural capital:prestige. Prestige in this country has historically come from New England. California has the edge on money and innovation hence Stanford, Caltech. But the Midwest has none of these things. Northwestern might provide a better education and job prospects and be higher in US News rankings but that’s not how people calculate these things for themselves. They care about bragging rights in their communities.

Wrong. This isn’t how the world works, and I have multiple degrees from top ivies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ivys are coasting on their reputations-the cat is now out of the bag with all of the recent bad press and reputations with employers. Many kids would pick NU over all Ivys except HYP. They deserve their high rankings on USNWR.

This is just not true. My kid isn’t even considering applying to NW. it isn’t as desirable for a backup reach.

Your kid probably wouldn’t get in. Also, lots of kids do stupid things. Don’t tell us about your kid unless they were already accepted and are making a decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:stanford
duke
northwestern
chicago
hopkins
MIT
caltech

are the equivalent non-ivies. I wonder who the 8th is.

Rice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ivys are coasting on their reputations-the cat is now out of the bag with all of the recent bad press and reputations with employers. Many kids would pick NU over all Ivys except HYP. They deserve their high rankings on USNWR.

This is just not true. My kid isn’t even considering applying to NW. it isn’t as desirable for a backup reach.

Poster stated "many" not "all".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:stanford
duke
northwestern
chicago
hopkins
MIT
caltech

are the equivalent non-ivies. I wonder who the 8th is.

8th - Who cares. Just like 1-7.

[Anonymous]

Ivies have higher ranks and lower acceptance rates because of marketing and popularity. Internet has changed that but they'll still cash on reputation for a while. However, its not a hidden knowledge that ranking isn't accurate and you should rather look at tiers. Tier one has ivies, Stanford, MIT, Caltech,Hopkins, Chicago, Rice, Duke, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Amherst, Williams, CMU.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What schools are “ivy-plus”

UMD calls themselves a “public ivy”

This thread is garbage like all the subjective, strivery, clout-chasing prestige fights on this board, but I’m going to stick up for the Terps here. They didn’t decide to call themselves a public Ivy. The school was included on a list of the strongest flagships in the country. That moniker is no more or less valid than Ivy+. You certainly seem like someone who cares about NW’s perceived lack of prestige wrt the Ivies so why don’t you concentrate on that.