Everyone likes to complain about health insurance costs but none of that matters if we don’t have providers!

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Anonymous wrote:Well, we all are going to die anyway. Why even bother with healthcare?

Exactly.

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I think this issue is due to where you live. A friend of mine lives in Baltimore and has a few specialists and doesn’t have this issue. I would look for physicians beyond your typical radius.

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I agree medical school should require some sort of mandatory number of hours worked like the military. Maybe the minimum per year is some part time number but there should be some cumulative number that adds up to five years practice.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, we all are going to die anyway. Why even bother with healthcare?

We don’t have healthcare, we have sickcare. Our current system is doing tremendous harm.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree medical school should require some sort of mandatory number of hours worked like the military. Maybe the minimum per year is some part time number but there should be some cumulative number that adds up to five years practice.

Say what? Whose are you agreeing with?

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Anonymous wrote:I have to say I’m mystified by all this.
I have a very smart incredibly hard working teen who wants to be a doctor. She did well in HS and got into an excellent college. But now they seem like they want to push half the kids out of pre med with really hard “weed out” classes and a lousy grading curve. And on top of all that coursework she’s supposed to do research (even though no labs have spots thanks to the administration), shadowing (which you basically have to know someone to achieve), clinical hours (really don’t even know how you do this) and volunteering, plus of course studying for the mcat. And that’s all before med school itself and the grind of residency! It really seems like they don’t want people to be doctors! So we end up importing doctors from countries that make it much easier to be doctors. This all seems to make zero sense to me. We are taking our top American students and doing everything we can to duscourage them from becoming doctors.

Add in being middle class but on the edge of poor but not enough to qualify for help and its pretty insurmountable.
The issues listed here were the same issues I experienced when graduating in 2013.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what kind of doctors the prior two pps know? The ones I know work a ton.

NP here, but the docs in my family medicine practice are like this. 2 days in 1 office, 1 day in a second. That seems to be it.

It's not like they are also surgeons, so they can't be doing surgery on a 4th day.

I can't see the practice "giving" everyone a full day for charts. But maybe? That still only comes to 4 days.

I called for a physical last week and they gave me a date more than 6 months later.

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Becoming and working as a doctor does not sound appealing at all to me and therefore the fact there is a shortage is not remotely surprising. Stressful, long and expensive training. I'm sure helping patients is rewarding but some are going to be rude and abusive. Dealing with insurance companies is a total nightmare. I was talking to a doctor friend about my experience submitting claims as a patient with out of network providers, and she said she has to deal with so many BS delays tactics and gaslighting. I recently watched The Pitt, which apparently a lot of HCW endorse as accurately representing their experiences - hospital staff are overworked because hospital administrators are constantly cutting costs. I have nothing but respect for people that choose to become doctors and practice in this environment - especially primary care and emergency medicine.

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Oh and just the emotional toll of treating people with serious conditions whose life is your hands.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what kind of doctors the prior two pps know? The ones I know work a ton.

NP here, but the docs in my family medicine practice are like this. 2 days in 1 office, 1 day in a second. That seems to be it.

It's not like they are also surgeons, so they can't be doing surgery on a 4th day.

I can't see the practice "giving" everyone a full day for charts. But maybe? That still only comes to 4 days.

I called for a physical last week and they gave me a date more than 6 months later.

How do you know the schedule of every doctor in your practice? It seem like maybe you are looking for things to gripe about.
It's your insurance company that is ruining healthcare FWIW.

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Physicians are no longer trained to help get their patients healthy.

The Hippocratic Oath is not part of medical school AT ALL anymore.

WHY?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what kind of doctors the prior two pps know? The ones I know work a ton.

NP here, but the docs in my family medicine practice are like this. 2 days in 1 office, 1 day in a second. That seems to be it.

It's not like they are also surgeons, so they can't be doing surgery on a 4th day.

I can't see the practice "giving" everyone a full day for charts. But maybe? That still only comes to 4 days.

I called for a physical last week and they gave me a date more than 6 months later.

How do you know the schedule of every doctor in your practice? It seem like maybe you are looking for things to gripe about.
It's your insurance company that is ruining healthcare FWIW.

Because when I call to say I'd like Dr. Jones, the response is "Dr. Jones is in This Office on Mon & Wed, and in Other Office on Tuesday." Then I asked about Dr. Smith and it was a similar response.

Even Dr. Marshall said to me, "I work the most here at 4 days a week."

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Anonymous wrote:I agree medical school should require some sort of mandatory number of hours worked like the military. Maybe the minimum per year is some part time number but there should be some cumulative number that adds up to five years practice.

Disturbing to see at least 2 people in this thread suggesting private citizens have mandatory workload obligations. Do you hear yourselves?

If we do not have enough people wanting to be doctors, then we need to incentivize becoming a doctor.
If we have enough people who want to be doctors but they are being weeded out (as a PP suggested) or not finding residencies (as the OP article suggests) then we can fix that.
If you think medical services should be provided or subsidized by the government, plenty of people agree with you.

But the answer is never for the government to require an individual to work more than they want to or need to just because there are more patients to see.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree medical school should require some sort of mandatory number of hours worked like the military. Maybe the minimum per year is some part time number but there should be some cumulative number that adds up to five years practice.

Disturbing to see at least 2 people in this thread suggesting private citizens have mandatory workload obligations. Do you hear yourselves?

If we do not have enough people wanting to be doctors, then we need to incentivize becoming a doctor.
If we have enough people who want to be doctors but they are being weeded out (as a PP suggested) or not finding residencies (as the OP article suggests) then we can fix that.
If you think medical services should be provided or subsidized by the government, plenty of people agree with you.

But the answer is never for the government to require an individual to work more than they want to or need to just because there are more patients to see.

+1 this

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious what kind of doctors the prior two pps know? The ones I know work a ton.

My Dad just retired from pediatrics and they are absolutely drowning. The clinic wants them to spend less than 10 minutes per patient. My Dad wanted to go part time but with insurance costs he would have been losing money.