Peter Beinart: Being Jewish after the destruction of Gaza
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Anonymous
Totally useless post. No substance, can’t you do any better ? The premise of your post is you want Hamas to talk to Americans , well talk ? And I am not a Jew, and don’t even know many. |
Anonymous
Lemme guess - you’re the Lutheran hand bells guy. #yawn The premise of my post is that I agree with Jon Stewart and Peter Beinart’s view that the root cause of Middle East conflict has NEVER been what Israel and the U.S. have propagandized it to be … |
Anonymous
Ok, I get it, it’s an endless game of tit-for-tat that will just go on forever, unless one side completely annihilates the other. The US involvement is time limited based on the importance of ME oil. Once the oil fades ( or no longer needed), US will pull back. The whole area will be treated similar to Africa. So might want to figure this out by then. |
Anonymous
Another useless post. I get it, you worship Jon Stewart, I never watch the clown. |
Anonymous
How would you have time to watch him, even if he wasn’t a clown, what with your busy schedule playing hand bells, crushing bowls brimming over with lutefisk, and denying a genocide that the rest of the world seems to see pretty clearly at this point?! You’re a busy little bee, after all! |
Anonymous
I don't know about Jews in the US but the overall majority of Israeli's are perfectly fine with the ongoing atrocities, this problematic nature of Zionism is deeply ingrained into Israeli society. |
Anonymous
I have no clue what your talking about. You wanted to tell a Hamas story to a regular American and you have said nothing but nonsense over 3 posts. I am not Jewish and generally don’t have a dog in this fight. But, keep doing what you are doing, very convincing. |
Anonymous
With the avalanche of negative public opinion crushing down on Zionism, it’s funny that you think anyone is waiting on your vote. 😂 |
Anonymous
You are now classifying “good Jews” and “bad Jews”? Do you classify “good Muslims” versus “bad Muslims”? All the lies you’ve been told about Palestinians? From who? This thread like so many others on this forum …. The Jew hate cloaked as woke. |
Anonymous
Zionism is the belief that Jews should be able to live in peace in their homeland - the one Jewish homeland in the world. If anything, as a Jew, I feel more supportive of Israel and Zionism in the wake of 10/7 and the unbridled hatred it unleashed for Jews all over the world. The only thing “problematic” about Zionism is Jew haters don’t want Jews to live anywhere in peace, especially not the Arab Muslims who invaded the Levant and thought they’d suppressed / gotten rid the Jews who lived there for millennia only to find Jews returning after WWII. I don’t like Netanyahu or his government, but I’m ever more committed to Israel. |
Anonymous
Gross. |
Anonymous
As a non Jewish person with zero ties to the ME, I can share how my thoughts on the Jewish homeland have evolved. If you had asked me before or around Oct 7 whether “Jews deserve a homeland”, the answer would have been unambiguously “of course”. I figured that there are Christian, Muslim, Hindu majority countries so why not a Jewish majority country. Also I understood the trauma of holocaust necessitated a space for people to feel safe and rebuild their lives and culture. I hadn’t ever really considered how that homeland came to be, and what would need to happen to the displaced people in order to make this work. And the more I think about it, the less I am convinced that any group of people have an unshakable right to a place at the expense of others around them. Does the Republican Party have “rights” to Oklahoma? Sure seems like it. But the reason that Oklahoma is so Republican is that people who live there choose that condition for themselves (which is fine). If a bunch of people started to become democrats and people who have democratic feelings that live there were organized and decided to all vote, Oklahoma could become a democratic state and that would be fine too. You can’t dictate forever the identity of a piece of land and that has many different types of people on it. The rights of the people of Oklahoma trump the rights of the Republican Party. And so in the same way, the rights of the population living in Israel trump the rights of the Jewish state. I no longer believe that there is some sort of right to a Jewish state. |
Anonymous
But this is the crux of the issue. The Jewish homeland was land that people were already living on for hundreds of years. While in the Zionist / birthright mindset, kicking them off the land was a-ok bc they Zionist positioned them as “invaders” that is pure fiction. The genetic evidence and archeology record tells the more likely story that they were were descended from the same ancestors as the Jewish people, continued to live in the land (intermarrying with others from the ME as travel became easier), and eventually converted to Christianity and then Islam. But since the zionists believe so whole heartedly the Palestinians were invaders they treated them as the enemy, kicking them out of the homes and sequestering them to smaller and smaller pieces of land (not recognized as a country) subject to air / land / sea blockades. Understandablythe Palestinians did not like this treatment and fought back. And so it is - the back and forth cycle of violence that did not just begin on 10/7. How do you argue against such extreme brainwashing? |
Anonymous
Do you not care that your "homeland" was built on other people's homes? Necessitated the forced removal of others? It's not like Israel was built on some vacant land. |
Anonymous
You're a genocidal maniac |