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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I really hope most Jews will agree with Peter Beinart.

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I don't know about Jews in the US but  the overall majority of Israeli's are perfectly fine with the ongoing atrocities, this problematic nature of Zionism is deeply ingrained into Israeli society.[/quote]

Zionism is the belief that Jews should be able to live in peace in their homeland - the one Jewish homeland in the world. If anything, as a Jew, I feel more supportive of Israel and Zionism in the wake of 10/7 and the unbridled hatred it unleashed for Jews all over the world. The only thing “problematic” about Zionism is Jew haters don’t want Jews to live anywhere in peace, especially not the Arab Muslims who invaded the Levant and thought they’d suppressed / gotten rid the Jews who lived there for millennia only to find Jews returning after WWII. I don’t like Netanyahu or his government, but I’m ever more committed to Israel. [/quote]

As a non Jewish person with zero ties to the ME, I can share how my thoughts on the Jewish homeland have evolved.

If you had asked me before or around Oct 7 whether “Jews deserve a homeland”, the answer would have been unambiguously “of course”. I figured that there are Christian, Muslim, Hindu majority countries so why not a Jewish majority country. Also I understood the trauma of holocaust necessitated a space for people to feel safe and rebuild their lives and culture.

I hadn’t ever really considered how that homeland came to be, and what would need to happen to the displaced people in order to make this work. And the more I think about it, the less I am convinced that any group of people have an unshakable right to a place at the expense of others around them. Does the Republican Party have “rights” to Oklahoma? Sure seems like it. But the reason that Oklahoma is so Republican is that people who live there choose that condition for themselves (which is fine). If a bunch of people started to become democrats and people who have democratic feelings that live there were organized and decided to all vote, Oklahoma could become a democratic state and that would be fine too. You can’t dictate forever the identity of a piece of land and that has many different types of people on it. The rights of the people of Oklahoma trump the rights of the Republican Party. And so in the same way, the rights of the population living in Israel trump the rights of the Jewish state. I no longer believe that there is some sort of right to a Jewish state. [/quote]

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