Leaving the US because it’s just not affordable anymore

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The poorest US state (Mississippi) will soon surpass the richest EU country (Germany) in GDP per capita. All other US states are ahead:

https://www.euronews.com/business/2025/01/03/the-poorest-us-state-rivals-germany-gdp-per-capita-in-the-us-and-europe

I've lived in Europe before. There's an old saying: The US is a great place to be rich, and an awful place to be poor. Europe is a great place to be poor, and an awful place to be rich.

What good is being a few thousand dollars wealthier when your kids get shot in schools, you have virtually virtually zero vacation time, and any higher gdp per capita difference you have to spend on gas for your car and Healthcare in the US because public infrastructure and healthcare BLOW?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The poorest US state (Mississippi) will soon surpass the richest EU country (Germany) in GDP per capita. All other US states are ahead:

https://www.euronews.com/business/2025/01/03/the-poorest-us-state-rivals-germany-gdp-per-capita-in-the-us-and-europe

I've lived in Europe before. There's an old saying: The US is a great place to be rich, and an awful place to be poor. Europe is a great place to be poor, and an awful place to be rich.

But that statistic doesn’t address inequality. What is the median wealth/income in both places? America has some extremely wealthy people that mask the huge number of people in poverty doing averages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The poorest US state (Mississippi) will soon surpass the richest EU country (Germany) in GDP per capita. All other US states are ahead:

https://www.euronews.com/business/2025/01/03/the-poorest-us-state-rivals-germany-gdp-per-capita-in-the-us-and-europe

I've lived in Europe before. There's an old saying: The US is a great place to be rich, and an awful place to be poor. Europe is a great place to be poor, and an awful place to be rich.

What if you are middle class?

[Anonymous]

Hoping to move to the Baltics at 62, but part time as my kids stay here. It's getting more expensive, but countryside is still affordable.
The best part is the long summer nights, fresh local food, and no people.
Healthcare is fine. Ambulance has come out 5 times for our family alone and put us back together.

[Anonymous]

I have a sibling in Germany and thIngs are expensive as well, though the public transportation, safety, and walkability aspects are better.

However just up and moving to Europe isn't that easy. It took the trailing spouse years to get his work visa approved, with my sis in law in a very high demand job.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you live in the DC area. There are plenty of parts of the US that have a much lower cost of living. Albuquerque for example. Or Indianapolis.

Yay. Albuquerque. A city where they have massive problems with hordes of junkies smashing windows to get into cars. The US is a disaster everywhere. Just rapid decline, misery, and fraying of the social contract everywhere. Ughh. The decline is so noticeable in my lifetime. Everywhere in the US has gotten dirtier, more crude, more crass, more violent, and more rundown. The US is rapidly turning into an entire nation with tailer park culture and mentality. Plus, the worst heslthcare in the world is inescapable even if you move to a lcol area.

But much, much more diverse! That’s gotta balance out everything. We invited the entire third world here; this is the natural consequence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am hearing of people moving to Portugal. I can't manage to learn any other languages but English, and I'm jewish (and poor), but otherwise I'd leave the US too.

You need $500k invested for five yeras and competency in Portuguese.

If you're Jewish Israel will probably take you and give you a pension.

+1. Move to Israel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you live in the DC area. There are plenty of parts of the US that have a much lower cost of living. Albuquerque for example. Or Indianapolis.

Yay. Albuquerque. A city where they have massive problems with hordes of junkies smashing windows to get into cars. The US is a disaster everywhere. Just rapid decline, misery, and fraying of the social contract everywhere. Ughh. The decline is so noticeable in my lifetime. Everywhere in the US has gotten dirtier, more crude, more crass, more violent, and more rundown. The US is rapidly turning into an entire nation with tailer park culture and mentality. Plus, the worst heslthcare in the world is inescapable even if you move to a lcol area.

But much, much more diverse! That’s gotta balance out everything. We invited the entire third world here; this is the natural consequence.

The third world is only third because white people looted it. Get some reparations and then we’ll see how “developed” the first world really is.

[Anonymous]

Ok, see ya.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Move to Mexico... a lot of it is really nice and cheap.

Yes! Low crime, good schools, cheap drugs. Wonderful lifestyle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move to Mexico... a lot of it is really nice and cheap.

Yes! Low crime, good schools, cheap drugs. Wonderful lifestyle.

There are riots going on in Mexico city about Americans moving in and causing rents to skyrocket along with refusing to learn Spanish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The poorest US state (Mississippi) will soon surpass the richest EU country (Germany) in GDP per capita. All other US states are ahead:

https://www.euronews.com/business/2025/01/03/the-poorest-us-state-rivals-germany-gdp-per-capita-in-the-us-and-europe

I've lived in Europe before. There's an old saying: The US is a great place to be rich, and an awful place to be poor. Europe is a great place to be poor, and an awful place to be rich.

Yup, this is exactly what I was thinking. Why does OP assume the grass is greener?

[Anonymous]

OP, just move to a cheaper city in the US. Check before you move to see if the schools are safe and if there’s a good public hospital.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We live in central europe. Its way more afforable because: i dont need a car, my home is smaller so have less costs, more normal ro live in apartments than houses (see previous note), health care is affordable and excellent, travel in europe is so much cheaper than in the usa, cost of food in capital city infinitely cheaper than comparable city in usa. It just makes sense. I will never move back.

Yea, this post takes the cake. You're living in Central Europe and it's all rainbows, but you can't tear yourself away from DCUM. Ok.

[Anonymous]

Lots of great affordable cities in the US: buffalo, cleveland, Pittsburgh are a few I know personally people thriving.

Every country has its problems. S Korea has terrible misogyny and ancestral classism. Japan is extremely racist and unaccepting to foreigners and also has bad misogyny. Australia struggles with Asian immigration and race tensions.

US has lots to work on but so do other countries. You feel poor but my guess is you are actually lacking purpose/connection. There is no escaping the work we all need to do to make any society more fair and healthy. Get involved and help make things better, even if it’s just for your neighborhood. It doesn’t have to be political. Look for groups that are actually helping people everyday. Join a church or non profit that is helping pay people’s medical and utility bills, does youth mentoring, food banks.