Do you think slavery or indentured servitude will come back to the us?

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe.

I spent a few years in a developing country in South Asia for work. One thing that shocked me to the core was how utterly medieval the system of maids/servants/domestic help was: they were essentially slaves. There is a HUGE swathe of the culture who are so impoverished that they have no choice but to scrabble for the very, VERY low "wages" they can get so that they can continue to live on in their rubbish-strewn slums, with no peace or hope or even basic sanitation. And the minority of people who depend on these staff of slaves/servants happily keep this system going: they know that the wages they pay are only enough to keep their help at barely sustenance levels. The abuse and exploitation is hideous and I do not understand why this isn't widely known and discussed out of that country (it isn't just one country in that region, either).

Sure, I can see that happening in the US. Standards of living are going down, it is harder and harder for the middle class to maintain what their previous generations had, and young people are weighted with crushing debt and rising housing prices, combined with uncertain employment prospects, like never before.

It won't happen in a generation or two, but eventually? Sure.

I was shocked by what I experienced of this system in S Asia as well; when I brought it up in the context of a particular person who was waiting on us hand and foot, I was told "He loves it, he's grateful for the work. He's very happy to do this." The people benefitting from the system seem to have zero qualms about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe.

I spent a few years in a developing country in South Asia for work. One thing that shocked me to the core was how utterly medieval the system of maids/servants/domestic help was: they were essentially slaves. There is a HUGE swathe of the culture who are so impoverished that they have no choice but to scrabble for the very, VERY low "wages" they can get so that they can continue to live on in their rubbish-strewn slums, with no peace or hope or even basic sanitation. And the minority of people who depend on these staff of slaves/servants happily keep this system going: they know that the wages they pay are only enough to keep their help at barely sustenance levels. The abuse and exploitation is hideous and I do not understand why this isn't widely known and discussed out of that country (it isn't just one country in that region, either).

Sure, I can see that happening in the US. Standards of living are going down, it is harder and harder for the middle class to maintain what their previous generations had, and young people are weighted with crushing debt and rising housing prices, combined with uncertain employment prospects, like never before.

It won't happen in a generation or two, but eventually? Sure.

+1

The beginning of the process: Walmart and McDonald's employees depending on Medicaid and food stamps.

https://www.worldhunger.org/report-walmart-workers-cost-taxpayers-6-2-billion-public-assistance/

https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-21-45

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No for the simple reason we have this thing called Human Rights.

Do you read the news?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With the rise of AI and no clear path for most people to make a living in the face of inflation do you with slavery or indentured servitude will eventually come back? That people will actually need to be slaves so they can be housed and feed themselves?

What do you call "careers" "jobs" etc. and fiat currency/taxes/debt if not "indentured servitude" or "slavery"?

Hint, it never went away, it just changed names and facades.

[Anonymous]

Is the reality for many women. A minimum of 18+ years of childcare and housework on top of working full time

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With the rise of AI and no clear path for most people to make a living in the face of inflation do you with slavery or indentured servitude will eventually come back? That people will actually need to be slaves so they can be housed and feed themselves?

It already has come back. Now it is called Nannies

[Anonymous]

I think there will be a coup before that happens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is the reality for many women. A minimum of 18+ years of childcare and housework on top of working full time

Still no Equality Act for women to amend the civil rights act

[Anonymous]

Most here are so clueless and cannot see the bigger picture, but focus on trivial details.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With the rise of AI and no clear path for most people to make a living in the face of inflation do you with slavery or indentured servitude will eventually come back? That people will actually need to be slaves so they can be housed and feed themselves?

It already has come back. Now it is called Nannies

Yes, getting 75k per year with limited education and skills is equal to slavery. The urban liberal is getting dumber as we watch the woke mind virus causes their brains to atrophy.

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Anonymous wrote:No for the simple reason we have this thing called Human Rights.

Do we, though?

These days, I can't tell.

Whose human rights are protected, specifically? I know some are, but this doesn't apply to every group in the US for sure.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:None of you remembers the story about the lady who was held here by her "employers?" They stole her passport, used her as a maid and nanny and didn't pay her. I'm sure that happens way more than you think.

I was going to post that. Also, anytime I travel to places like AZ + NV, I see signs warning of human trafficking... many of those trafficked end up as some sort of slaves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe.

I spent a few years in a developing country in South Asia for work. One thing that shocked me to the core was how utterly medieval the system of maids/servants/domestic help was: they were essentially slaves. There is a HUGE swathe of the culture who are so impoverished that they have no choice but to scrabble for the very, VERY low "wages" they can get so that they can continue to live on in their rubbish-strewn slums, with no peace or hope or even basic sanitation. And the minority of people who depend on these staff of slaves/servants happily keep this system going: they know that the wages they pay are only enough to keep their help at barely sustenance levels. The abuse and exploitation is hideous and I do not understand why this isn't widely known and discussed out of that country (it isn't just one country in that region, either).

Sure, I can see that happening in the US. Standards of living are going down, it is harder and harder for the middle class to maintain what their previous generations had, and young people are weighted with crushing debt and rising housing prices, combined with uncertain employment prospects, like never before.

It won't happen in a generation or two, but eventually? Sure.

I was shocked by what I experienced of this system in S Asia as well; when I brought it up in the context of a particular person who was waiting on us hand and foot, I was told "He loves it, he's grateful for the work. He's very happy to do this." The people benefitting from the system seem to have zero qualms about it.

What country or countries is this in?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe.

I spent a few years in a developing country in South Asia for work. One thing that shocked me to the core was how utterly medieval the system of maids/servants/domestic help was: they were essentially slaves. There is a HUGE swathe of the culture who are so impoverished that they have no choice but to scrabble for the very, VERY low "wages" they can get so that they can continue to live on in their rubbish-strewn slums, with no peace or hope or even basic sanitation. And the minority of people who depend on these staff of slaves/servants happily keep this system going: they know that the wages they pay are only enough to keep their help at barely sustenance levels. The abuse and exploitation is hideous and I do not understand why this isn't widely known and discussed out of that country (it isn't just one country in that region, either).

Sure, I can see that happening in the US. Standards of living are going down, it is harder and harder for the middle class to maintain what their previous generations had, and young people are weighted with crushing debt and rising housing prices, combined with uncertain employment prospects, like never before.

It won't happen in a generation or two, but eventually? Sure.

I was shocked by what I experienced of this system in S Asia as well; when I brought it up in the context of a particular person who was waiting on us hand and foot, I was told "He loves it, he's grateful for the work. He's very happy to do this." The people benefitting from the system seem to have zero qualms about it.

What country or countries is this in?

I’m not PP but India is like this. Even my American Indian friends who have moved back to India or otherwise spent time there ignore how horrific this is, and accept the cheap labor as normal

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe.

I spent a few years in a developing country in South Asia for work. One thing that shocked me to the core was how utterly medieval the system of maids/servants/domestic help was: they were essentially slaves. There is a HUGE swathe of the culture who are so impoverished that they have no choice but to scrabble for the very, VERY low "wages" they can get so that they can continue to live on in their rubbish-strewn slums, with no peace or hope or even basic sanitation. And the minority of people who depend on these staff of slaves/servants happily keep this system going: they know that the wages they pay are only enough to keep their help at barely sustenance levels. The abuse and exploitation is hideous and I do not understand why this isn't widely known and discussed out of that country (it isn't just one country in that region, either).

Sure, I can see that happening in the US. Standards of living are going down, it is harder and harder for the middle class to maintain what their previous generations had, and young people are weighted with crushing debt and rising housing prices, combined with uncertain employment prospects, like never before.

It won't happen in a generation or two, but eventually? Sure.

Almost every week while I lived there, the local news would have stories about

I was shocked by what I experienced of this system in S Asia as well; when I brought it up in the context of a particular person who was waiting on us hand and foot, I was told "He loves it, he's grateful for the work. He's very happy to do this." The people benefitting from the system seem to have zero qualms about it.

What country or countries is this in?

I’m not PP but India is like this. Even my American Indian friends who have moved back to India or otherwise spent time there ignore how horrific this is, and accept the cheap labor as normal

I'm the person who posted about it, and it is Pakistan and India. They have slavery there (it is called "maids" and "servants").

I have NO IDEA why this doesn't receive international coverage. When I lived there, there were regular local news reports about a servant/maid who had been abused horrifically. It wasn't considered a big deal; only the really bad abuse was reported, and people still didn't really care.

It was super common for normal middle class people I saw to speak with contempt to the cleaners/maids in their homes. More than once, I would see kids speaking with disrespect to the maid or nanny or cleaner, and the parents said nothing. I saw a woman slap her maid once, and more than one other person casually told me about slapping their maids, sometimes laughing while they described it. They see the poor who work in their homes as beneath them.

The worst part is that there are many CHILD servants/maids in those houses who are not in formal education and are just locked in to the cycle for life.