Is this the best method for scouting USYNT players or is there another way?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is the current method for scouting usynt players:

PLAYER SELECTION

Players are discovered through two main pathways. Talent Identification Managers lead all selections.
Process of scouting by U.S. Soccer at games and/or events.
Coach or Club Director Recommendation.

Is this the best method, or is there another way…such as open tryouts? This is just one suggestion, but looking for other ideas. Right now, the po
Icy seems only to look for most athletic kid, kid with biggest kick, fastest kid.

Go!

I don’t think this is a completely fair assessment. Assurming similar technical skills, the faster, stronger player will be selected even though there is a likelihood that they are early grower and closer to their physical peak.

For a smaller, skilled player to be selected, they need to have quickness that is on par or faster than the bigger, faster kids.

Quickness/ reaction time combined with agility is what scouts look for.
Unfortunately that is pretty hard to find in open tryouts.

So I think open tryouts should be an option, I’m all for club recommendations. That’s why I say go to a club where the coach and club thinks ur kid has potential.

What would open tryouts look like?

A payday for US Soccer. But who cares its about giving all players an opportunity to be seen.

So you’re proposing open tryouts like ODP?

Whatever works.

At the very least cut out the corruption.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is the current method for scouting usynt players:

PLAYER SELECTION

Players are discovered through two main pathways. Talent Identification Managers lead all selections.
Process of scouting by U.S. Soccer at games and/or events.
Coach or Club Director Recommendation.

Is this the best method, or is there another way…such as open tryouts? This is just one suggestion, but looking for other ideas. Right now, the po
Icy seems only to look for most athletic kid, kid with biggest kick, fastest kid.

Go!

I don’t think this is a completely fair assessment. Assurming similar technical skills, the faster, stronger player will be selected even though there is a likelihood that they are early grower and closer to their physical peak.

For a smaller, skilled player to be selected, they need to have quickness that is on par or faster than the bigger, faster kids.

Quickness/ reaction time combined with agility is what scouts look for.
Unfortunately that is pretty hard to find in open tryouts.

So I think open tryouts should be an option, I’m all for club recommendations. That’s why I say go to a club where the coach and club thinks ur kid has potential.

What would open tryouts look like?

A payday for US Soccer. But who cares its about giving all players an opportunity to be seen.

So you’re proposing open tryouts like ODP?

Whatever works.

At the very least cut out the corruption.

I don’t think any of you really understand how good you have to be to make a youth national team camp.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the current method for scouting usynt players:

PLAYER SELECTION

Players are discovered through two main pathways. Talent Identification Managers lead all selections.
Process of scouting by U.S. Soccer at games and/or events.
Coach or Club Director Recommendation.

Is this the best method, or is there another way…such as open tryouts? This is just one suggestion, but looking for other ideas. Right now, the po
Icy seems only to look for most athletic kid, kid with biggest kick, fastest kid.

Go!

I don’t think this is a completely fair assessment. Assurming similar technical skills, the faster, stronger player will be selected even though there is a likelihood that they are early grower and closer to their physical peak.

For a smaller, skilled player to be selected, they need to have quickness that is on par or faster than the bigger, faster kids.

Quickness/ reaction time combined with agility is what scouts look for.
Unfortunately that is pretty hard to find in open tryouts.

So I think open tryouts should be an option, I’m all for club recommendations. That’s why I say go to a club where the coach and club thinks ur kid has potential.

What would open tryouts look like?

A payday for US Soccer. But who cares its about giving all players an opportunity to be seen.

So you’re proposing open tryouts like ODP?

Whatever works.

At the very least cut out the corruption.

I don’t think any of you really understand how good you have to be to make a youth national team camp.

Is that the reason why so many are passed over for Talent IDs?

Being good is fine but theres no reason others should be shut out of the opportunity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the current method for scouting usynt players:

PLAYER SELECTION

Players are discovered through two main pathways. Talent Identification Managers lead all selections.
Process of scouting by U.S. Soccer at games and/or events.
Coach or Club Director Recommendation.

Is this the best method, or is there another way…such as open tryouts? This is just one suggestion, but looking for other ideas. Right now, the po
Icy seems only to look for most athletic kid, kid with biggest kick, fastest kid.

Go!

I don’t think this is a completely fair assessment. Assurming similar technical skills, the faster, stronger player will be selected even though there is a likelihood that they are early grower and closer to their physical peak.

For a smaller, skilled player to be selected, they need to have quickness that is on par or faster than the bigger, faster kids.

Quickness/ reaction time combined with agility is what scouts look for.
Unfortunately that is pretty hard to find in open tryouts.

So I think open tryouts should be an option, I’m all for club recommendations. That’s why I say go to a club where the coach and club thinks ur kid has potential.

What would open tryouts look like?

A payday for US Soccer. But who cares its about giving all players an opportunity to be seen.

So you’re proposing open tryouts like ODP?

Whatever works.

At the very least cut out the corruption.

I don’t think any of you really understand how good you have to be to make a youth national team camp.

Is that the reason why so many are passed over for Talent IDs?

Being good is fine but theres no reason others should be shut out of the opportunity.

So you’re talking about players that are not good enough to make a youth national team camp but are good enough to make a national team local training center? If you’re not good enough to make a national team camp then who cares?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the current method for scouting usynt players:

PLAYER SELECTION

Players are discovered through two main pathways. Talent Identification Managers lead all selections.
Process of scouting by U.S. Soccer at games and/or events.
Coach or Club Director Recommendation.

Is this the best method, or is there another way…such as open tryouts? This is just one suggestion, but looking for other ideas. Right now, the po
Icy seems only to look for most athletic kid, kid with biggest kick, fastest kid.

Go!

I don’t think this is a completely fair assessment. Assurming similar technical skills, the faster, stronger player will be selected even though there is a likelihood that they are early grower and closer to their physical peak.

For a smaller, skilled player to be selected, they need to have quickness that is on par or faster than the bigger, faster kids.

Quickness/ reaction time combined with agility is what scouts look for.
Unfortunately that is pretty hard to find in open tryouts.

So I think open tryouts should be an option, I’m all for club recommendations. That’s why I say go to a club where the coach and club thinks ur kid has potential.

What would open tryouts look like?

Probably some individual work (maybe 30 minutes). And then divide up the players into small groups to play 5 v 5 or 6 x 6. Switch teams to play with each other. And then move to 11 v 11 (if necessary). I think that allows enough opportunities for strengths to be seen .

[Anonymous]

Making camps can mean your good or you parents paid the right coaches.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the current method for scouting usynt players:

PLAYER SELECTION

Players are discovered through two main pathways. Talent Identification Managers lead all selections.
Process of scouting by U.S. Soccer at games and/or events.
Coach or Club Director Recommendation.

Is this the best method, or is there another way…such as open tryouts? This is just one suggestion, but looking for other ideas. Right now, the po
Icy seems only to look for most athletic kid, kid with biggest kick, fastest kid.

Go!

I don’t think this is a completely fair assessment. Assurming similar technical skills, the faster, stronger player will be selected even though there is a likelihood that they are early grower and closer to their physical peak.

For a smaller, skilled player to be selected, they need to have quickness that is on par or faster than the bigger, faster kids.

Quickness/ reaction time combined with agility is what scouts look for.
Unfortunately that is pretty hard to find in open tryouts.

So I think open tryouts should be an option, I’m all for club recommendations. That’s why I say go to a club where the coach and club thinks ur kid has potential.

What would open tryouts look like?

Probably some individual work (maybe 30 minutes). And then divide up the players into small groups to play 5 v 5 or 6 x 6. Switch teams to play with each other. And then move to 11 v 11 (if necessary). I think that allows enough opportunities for strengths to be seen .

What are the players trying out for?

[Anonymous]

As a current scout for a different country I must say what I see and read from US is embarrassing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a current scout for a different country I must say what I see and read from US is embarrassing

If you're on the girls/women's side do something about it and beat the USWNT.

If you can't beat them then stop talking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the current method for scouting usynt players:

PLAYER SELECTION

Players are discovered through two main pathways. Talent Identification Managers lead all selections.
Process of scouting by U.S. Soccer at games and/or events.
Coach or Club Director Recommendation.

Is this the best method, or is there another way…such as open tryouts? This is just one suggestion, but looking for other ideas. Right now, the po
Icy seems only to look for most athletic kid, kid with biggest kick, fastest kid.

Go!

I don’t think this is a completely fair assessment. Assurming similar technical skills, the faster, stronger player will be selected even though there is a likelihood that they are early grower and closer to their physical peak.

For a smaller, skilled player to be selected, they need to have quickness that is on par or faster than the bigger, faster kids.

Quickness/ reaction time combined with agility is what scouts look for.
Unfortunately that is pretty hard to find in open tryouts.

So I think open tryouts should be an option, I’m all for club recommendations. That’s why I say go to a club where the coach and club thinks ur kid has potential.

What would open tryouts look like?

A payday for US Soccer. But who cares its about giving all players an opportunity to be seen.

So you’re proposing open tryouts like ODP?

Whatever works.

At the very least cut out the corruption.

I agree. I saw 3-4 players make our top teams at tryouts, who balled out. But then, they didn't get top team offers. Because, Top team offers went to 3 kids who didn't even come to tryouts, they just showed up to practice beforehand and the coach agreed to take them on. Thus, making tryouts a sham.

I think cronyism exists, we see it at the local level all the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is the current method for scouting usynt players:

PLAYER SELECTION

Players are discovered through two main pathways. Talent Identification Managers lead all selections.
Process of scouting by U.S. Soccer at games and/or events.
Coach or Club Director Recommendation.

Is this the best method, or is there another way…such as open tryouts? This is just one suggestion, but looking for other ideas. Right now, the po
Icy seems only to look for most athletic kid, kid with biggest kick, fastest kid.

Go!

Yes this really is the best method. No other way even possible.

[Anonymous]

Here's another one that makes no sense.

Leagues generally have one person per geography that's the manages that areas Talent ID. Usually every club in a league gets 1-3 Talent ID invites per age group.

In my kids league there 10is teams and 3 clubs tend to always win it all. If you were US Soccer wouldn't it make more sense to just take all the players on the teams that win and ignore the rest? Obviously they know how to win and likely have Talent. Why even waste your time with players from clubs that consistently lose?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's another one that makes no sense.

Leagues generally have one person per geography that's the manages that areas Talent ID. Usually every club in a league gets 1-3 Talent ID invites per age group.

In my kids league there 10is teams and 3 clubs tend to always win it all. If you were US Soccer wouldn't it make more sense to just take all the players on the teams that win and ignore the rest? Obviously they know how to win and likely have Talent. Why even waste your time with players from clubs that consistently lose?

Just invite all players on the teams ranked 1-50 in the nation to USYNT Talent IDs + pick the best players and create a pool.

That's all you need to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's another one that makes no sense.

Leagues generally have one person per geography that's the manages that areas Talent ID. Usually every club in a league gets 1-3 Talent ID invites per age group.

In my kids league there 10is teams and 3 clubs tend to always win it all. If you were US Soccer wouldn't it make more sense to just take all the players on the teams that win and ignore the rest? Obviously they know how to win and likely have Talent. Why even waste your time with players from clubs that consistently lose?

No it's doesn't. Do really think the 5th best player on multiple winning teams is going to be one of the top players in the nation? No of course not. It's either top players on winning teams or it's top players hidden on losing teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's another one that makes no sense.

Leagues generally have one person per geography that's the manages that areas Talent ID. Usually every club in a league gets 1-3 Talent ID invites per age group.

In my kids league there 10is teams and 3 clubs tend to always win it all. If you were US Soccer wouldn't it make more sense to just take all the players on the teams that win and ignore the rest? Obviously they know how to win and likely have Talent. Why even waste your time with players from clubs that consistently lose?

I don’t think I’ve ever read anything as mind boggling dumb as this. Please tell me it’s a joke and no parent actually thinks like this?