Traveling to/from the US with dual citizenship under Trump

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Anonymous wrote:There was a similar thread last week, OP. People said their return was smooth.

Now people like me, who are waiting for green cards, or have visas, have doubts based on the recent lived experience of others. I am not crossing a border any time soon!

Whatever. I am on a visa and am crossing the border all the time, as are millions of other people, without incident. I wouldn’t come to the US on vacation at the moment, and I would be terrified if I were eg active in support of Palestine, but I don’t think most people need to worry overly.

In my social circle, it's only the internationals who travel for work that are actively crossing borders right now. No one I know on a visa is vacationing outside the US. They might (and we might) if one of our parents had a life or death emergency, something like that. But no crossing borders for fun stuff. It's just not worth the risk.

Yes a very reasonable approach.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/11/australian-with-us-working-visa-detained-insulted-deported

Horrific.

Horrible. I am not sure that this is typical though, I haven’t heard many stories like this yet. And 10s of thousands of people cross the border every day…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was a similar thread last week, OP. People said their return was smooth.

Now people like me, who are waiting for green cards, or have visas, have doubts based on the recent lived experience of others. I am not crossing a border any time soon!

Whatever. I am on a visa and am crossing the border all the time, as are millions of other people, without incident. I wouldn’t come to the US on vacation at the moment, and I would be terrified if I were eg active in support of Palestine, but I don’t think most people need to worry overly.

In my social circle, it's only the internationals who travel for work that are actively crossing borders right now. No one I know on a visa is vacationing outside the US. They might (and we might) if one of our parents had a life or death emergency, something like that. But no crossing borders for fun stuff. It's just not worth the risk.

Yes a very reasonable approach.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/11/australian-with-us-working-visa-detained-insulted-deported

Horrific.

Horrible. I am not sure that this is typical though, I haven’t heard many stories like this yet. And 10s of thousands of people cross the border every day…

Yeah but that's the point- they don't have to do stuff like this very much. It can instill fear in people and they decide to just leave or not come back, this kind of thing is too risky if it happens to you. That's their goal.

I know someone on a visa like this- it's a work visa that has no renewal limit. So many people do indeed stay in the US for years, meet someone, rent an apartment, etc. All very natural things and completely legal. They do all this because they reasonably expect to be able to renew the work visa on the proscribed schedule. Day-to-day it's not a concern. But these visas say that they are not supposed to have "immigrant intent", meaning you can't, at the time of applying or renewing, intend to eventually settle in the US as your permanent home. You can be asked to show that you still have ties at home- bank accounts, voting records, family, etc. This guy made a "mistake" because he said "I live in the US", using understandable colloquial language. He has a partner he lives with, they have an apartment he sleeps in probably 350 nights a year, a full-time job in the US, etc.

But the CBP officer chose to interpret that as "I intend to make the US my permanent residence", probably because he decided he didn't like him for some reason. He just has to write that as the justification on the form, and it's done, legally.

Good luck out there everyone. It's a brave new world.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There was a similar thread last week, OP. People said their return was smooth.

Now people like me, who are waiting for green cards, or have visas, have doubts based on the recent lived experience of others. I am not crossing a border any time soon!

Whatever. I am on a visa and am crossing the border all the time, as are millions of other people, without incident. I wouldn’t come to the US on vacation at the moment, and I would be terrified if I were eg active in support of Palestine, but I don’t think most people need to worry overly.

A visa is not the same as citizenship and having a passport. Completely irrelevant to this thread.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was a similar thread last week, OP. People said their return was smooth.

Now people like me, who are waiting for green cards, or have visas, have doubts based on the recent lived experience of others. I am not crossing a border any time soon!

Whatever. I am on a visa and am crossing the border all the time, as are millions of other people, without incident. I wouldn’t come to the US on vacation at the moment, and I would be terrified if I were eg active in support of Palestine, but I don’t think most people need to worry overly.

In my social circle, it's only the internationals who travel for work that are actively crossing borders right now. No one I know on a visa is vacationing outside the US. They might (and we might) if one of our parents had a life or death emergency, something like that. But no crossing borders for fun stuff. It's just not worth the risk.

Yes a very reasonable approach.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/11/australian-with-us-working-visa-detained-insulted-deported

Horrific.

Horrible. I am not sure that this is typical though, I haven’t heard many stories like this yet. And 10s of thousands of people cross the border every day…

Yeah but that's the point- they don't have to do stuff like this very much. It can instill fear in people and they decide to just leave or not come back, this kind of thing is too risky if it happens to you. That's their goal.

I know someone on a visa like this- it's a work visa that has no renewal limit. So many people do indeed stay in the US for years, meet someone, rent an apartment, etc. All very natural things and completely legal. They do all this because they reasonably expect to be able to renew the work visa on the proscribed schedule. Day-to-day it's not a concern. But these visas say that they are not supposed to have "immigrant intent", meaning you can't, at the time of applying or renewing, intend to eventually settle in the US as your permanent home. You can be asked to show that you still have ties at home- bank accounts, voting records, family, etc. This guy made a "mistake" because he said "I live in the US", using understandable colloquial language. He has a partner he lives with, they have an apartment he sleeps in probably 350 nights a year, a full-time job in the US, etc.

But the CBP officer chose to interpret that as "I intend to make the US my permanent residence", probably because he decided he didn't like him for some reason. He just has to write that as the justification on the form, and it's done, legally.

Good luck out there everyone. It's a brave new world.

Your post belongs in politics.

[Anonymous]

I don't see how since you don't present the other passport when entering/leaving the US.

[Anonymous]

Dual is scammy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was a similar thread last week, OP. People said their return was smooth.

Now people like me, who are waiting for green cards, or have visas, have doubts based on the recent lived experience of others. I am not crossing a border any time soon!

Whatever. I am on a visa and am crossing the border all the time, as are millions of other people, without incident. I wouldn’t come to the US on vacation at the moment, and I would be terrified if I were eg active in support of Palestine, but I don’t think most people need to worry overly.

In my social circle, it's only the internationals who travel for work that are actively crossing borders right now. No one I know on a visa is vacationing outside the US. They might (and we might) if one of our parents had a life or death emergency, something like that. But no crossing borders for fun stuff. It's just not worth the risk.

Yes a very reasonable approach.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/11/australian-with-us-working-visa-detained-insulted-deported

Horrific.

Agree. They could accuse anyone of trying to remain in the US and cancel their visa. These CBP seem more interested in showing they’re powerful. This is frightening.

[Anonymous]

Oh wow, so much fear monger ins in this ridiculous thread! I crossed into Canada theee times in the past two weeks, each time using my EU passport to enter. The Canadians were happy to see it. And then I re-entered the US each time on my US passport, as we are required to do. I was readmitted within seconds. When I fly to Europe, I do so on my EU passport, as always. And when I return to the US, it’s on my US passport. Absolutely no changed. If you’re a protest happy green card or visa holder, YMMV, but no changes for law abiding dual citizens!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh wow, so much fear monger ins in this ridiculous thread! I crossed into Canada theee times in the past two weeks, each time using my EU passport to enter. The Canadians were happy to see it. And then I re-entered the US each time on my US passport, as we are required to do. I was readmitted within seconds. When I fly to Europe, I do so on my EU passport, as always. And when I return to the US, it’s on my US passport. Absolutely no changed. If you’re a protest happy green card or visa holder, YMMV, but no changes for law abiding dual citizens!

Don't be so sure about that.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/will-the-trump-administration-try-to-deport-u-s-citizens-trump-has-floated-the-idea/3890350/

This is the same language used originally for the deportations to El Salvador "violent criminals", etc. Now it turns out 90% of them had no criminal record.

This is turning into a Politics post, admittedly. But you are fooling yourself if you don't think they will come after you if they decide to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh wow, so much fear monger ins in this ridiculous thread! I crossed into Canada theee times in the past two weeks, each time using my EU passport to enter. The Canadians were happy to see it. And then I re-entered the US each time on my US passport, as we are required to do. I was readmitted within seconds. When I fly to Europe, I do so on my EU passport, as always. And when I return to the US, it’s on my US passport. Absolutely no changed. If you’re a protest happy green card or visa holder, YMMV, but no changes for law abiding dual citizens!

Don't be so sure about that.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/will-the-trump-administration-try-to-deport-u-s-citizens-trump-has-floated-the-idea/3890350/

This is the same language used originally for the deportations to El Salvador "violent criminals", etc. Now it turns out 90% of them had no criminal record.

This is turning into a Politics post, admittedly. But you are fooling yourself if you don't think they will come after you if they decide to.

PP here. What on earth are you talking about? Those deported to El Salvador are NOT US citizens, dual or otherwise. This has no bearing whatsoever on OP’s query.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't see how since you don't present the other passport when entering/leaving the US.

Not quite true. More countries are requiring US citizens to have electronic visas to enter e.g. Australia, UK, EU. If you are a citizen in one of those places as well, you don't need and can't get an ETA for them, so you have to prove to the airline why you don't need an ETA by showing them your other passport.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see how since you don't present the other passport when entering/leaving the US.

Not quite true. More countries are requiring US citizens to have electronic visas to enter e.g. Australia, UK, EU. If you are a citizen in one of those places as well, you don't need and can't get an ETA for them, so you have to prove to the airline why you don't need an ETA by showing them your other passport.

So you travel with both passports, which is exactly the same as we have been doing before 2025.

We just went to and from the EU LAST WEEK. WTH are you talking about? Used French passport at CDG and US passport at IAD. Just like I did last year, 10 years ago and 20 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't see how since you don't present the other passport when entering/leaving the US.

Not quite true. More countries are requiring US citizens to have electronic visas to enter e.g. Australia, UK, EU. If you are a citizen in one of those places as well, you don't need and can't get an ETA for them, so you have to prove to the airline why you don't need an ETA by showing them your other passport.

So you travel with both passports, which is exactly the same as we have been doing before 2025.

We just went to and from the EU LAST WEEK. WTH are you talking about? Used French passport at CDG and US passport at IAD. Just like I did last year, 10 years ago and 20 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't see how since you don't present the other passport when entering/leaving the US.

Not quite true. More countries are requiring US citizens to have electronic visas to enter e.g. Australia, UK, EU. If you are a citizen in one of those places as well, you don't need and can't get an ETA for them, so you have to prove to the airline why you don't need an ETA by showing them your other passport.

So you travel with both passports, which is exactly the same as we have been doing before 2025.

We just went to and from the EU LAST WEEK. WTH are you talking about? Used French passport at CDG and US passport at IAD. Just like I did last year, 10 years ago and 20 years ago.

Maybe Google ETIAS. The implementation has been delayed but once it starts, you are probably going to have to show your French passport to the airline at IAD to explain why you don't need to apply for an ETIAS, else they may not let you on the plane. The EU didn't have ETIAS last year, 10 years ago or twenty years ago, but they will soon.The UK ETA started this year and similar systems have been in place for Australia and NZ and Canada for a while.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't see how since you don't present the other passport when entering/leaving the US.

Not quite true. More countries are requiring US citizens to have electronic visas to enter e.g. Australia, UK, EU. If you are a citizen in one of those places as well, you don't need and can't get an ETA for them, so you have to prove to the airline why you don't need an ETA by showing them your other passport.

So you travel with both passports, which is exactly the same as we have been doing before 2025.

We just went to and from the EU LAST WEEK. WTH are you talking about? Used French passport at CDG and US passport at IAD. Just like I did last year, 10 years ago and 20 years ago.

Maybe Google ETIAS. The implementation has been delayed but once it starts, you are probably going to have to show your French passport to the airline at IAD to explain why you don't need to apply for an ETIAS, else they may not let you on the plane. The EU didn't have ETIAS last year, 10 years ago or twenty years ago, but they will soon.The UK ETA started this year and similar systems have been in place for Australia and NZ and Canada for a while.

I think you’re talking at cross purposes. Yes, she shows airline French passport and uses that to enter CDG. Coming back, she shows airline US passport and uses that at IAD?