But Congress has the tariff power, not the president!

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is what Grok said:

Trump is primarily using the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) of 1977 to impose tariffs in his second term, declaring national emergencies over issues like fentanyl, illegal immigration, and trade deficits to justify duties such as 25% on Canada and Mexico and 10% on China and all imports. He also leverages Section 232 and Section 301 of existing trade laws, which delegate tariff authority from Congress for national security or unfair trade practices. While IEEPA’s use for tariffs is novel and controversial, potentially overstepping its intent, these actions rest on broad statutory powers, though they face legal challenges for possibly violating Congress’s constitutional tariff authority.



Trump and his cabinet are way too dumb to figure this out. So, who are the evil people who brought this to Trump's attention, project 2025 designers?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is what Grok said:

Trump is primarily using the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) of 1977 to impose tariffs in his second term, declaring national emergencies over issues like fentanyl, illegal immigration, and trade deficits to justify duties such as 25% on Canada and Mexico and 10% on China and all imports. He also leverages Section 232 and Section 301 of existing trade laws, which delegate tariff authority from Congress for national security or unfair trade practices. While IEEPA’s use for tariffs is novel and controversial, potentially overstepping its intent, these actions rest on broad statutory powers, though they face legal challenges for possibly violating Congress’s constitutional tariff authority.



Trump and his cabinet are way too dumb to figure this out. So, who are the evil people who brought this to Trump's attention, project 2025 designers?

10 years in the making. Trump and his cabinet are hollow puppets. They all have some version of Trump’s psychiatric disorder. Malignant narcissism and omnipotent destructiveness. They were deliberate picks. Boots on the ground. We know who the puppet masters are.
Anonymous
They published a book explaining their plan. It's not a secret except to Trump's illiterate MAGA base.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Congress gave the power to levy tariffs to the president. They could take it back, but so far they haven't.


I thought they had enough republicans who would vote to take it back? This is when everyone needs to contact their democratic reps and demand that they stop watching from the sidelines and do something


The Senate has 4 and already voted: Murkowsli, Collins, McConnell and Paul.

The House has 1 who has publicly stated support: Don Bacon.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:trump used a national emergency designation as a basis


Haven't other presidents done this as well?

No other President has declared that trade deficits - counting only goods and not services - are a “national emergency” and boned the entire global economy as a result.
Anonymous
But Congress doesn’t do anything anymore. They just raise money and avoid constituents. I hope every sitting member of the House and Senate get voted out for dereliction of duty.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:trump used a national emergency designation as a basis


Haven't other presidents done this as well?

No other President has declared that trade deficits - counting only goods and not services - are a “national emergency” and boned the entire global economy as a result.


Interesting that you used the word "boned." I think his thuggish, bullying stance towards the rest of the world makes him look tough to his followers, more manly somehow (magically, they seem not to notice the bronzer and hairspray). MAGA love the imagery that he's "boning" the global economy. I guess it makes them feel more powerful or something.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:trump used a national emergency designation as a basis


Haven't other presidents done this as well?

No other President has declared that trade deficits - counting only goods and not services - are a “national emergency” and boned the entire global economy as a result.


Interesting that you used the word "boned." I think his thuggish, bullying stance towards the rest of the world makes him look tough to his followers, more manly somehow (magically, they seem not to notice the bronzer and hairspray). MAGA love the imagery that he's "boning" the global economy. I guess it makes them feel more powerful or something.


It’s like an extension of “sticking it to the libs.” Of course, anyone with a brain knows these tariffs are just a Trump Tax on consumers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Congress gave the power to levy tariffs to the president. They could take it back, but so far they haven't.


I thought they had enough republicans who would vote to take it back? This is when everyone needs to contact their democratic reps and demand that they stop watching from the sidelines and do something


The Senate has 4 and already voted: Murkowsli, Collins, McConnell and Paul.

The House has 1 who has publicly stated support: Don Bacon.

This measure is DOA even if they do pass it. Trump will veto it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Congress gave the power to levy tariffs to the president. They could take it back, but so far they haven't.


I thought they had enough republicans who would vote to take it back? This is when everyone needs to contact their democratic reps and demand that they stop watching from the sidelines and do something


The Senate has 4 and already voted: Murkowsli, Collins, McConnell and Paul.

The House has 1 who has publicly stated support: Don Bacon.

This measure is DOA even if they do pass it. Trump will veto it.


So force him to do it. At the very least he’d have to take a break from playing golf and show up to work for once.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Congress gave the power to levy tariffs to the president. They could take it back, but so far they haven't.


I thought they had enough republicans who would vote to take it back? This is when everyone needs to contact their democratic reps and demand that they stop watching from the sidelines and do something


The Senate has 4 and already voted: Murkowsli, Collins, McConnell and Paul.

The House has 1 who has publicly stated support: Don Bacon.

This measure is DOA even if they do pass it. Trump will veto it.


And at that point, our economy will be at a point where congress may override the veto.
Anonymous
It's almost like Republicans keep electing people who don't actually understand our government and how it works, nor have they ever paid attention to our laws or read the whole Constitution.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Congress gave the power to levy tariffs to the president. They could take it back, but so far they haven't.


I thought they had enough republicans who would vote to take it back? This is when everyone needs to contact their democratic reps and demand that they stop watching from the sidelines and do something


The Senate has 4 and already voted: Murkowsli, Collins, McConnell and Paul.

The House has 1 who has publicly stated support: Don Bacon.

This measure is DOA even if they do pass it. Trump will veto it.


That's a different bill. The one you're talking about won't stop anything for 60 days.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Congress gave the power to levy tariffs to the president. They could take it back, but so far they haven't.


I thought they had enough republicans who would vote to take it back? This is when everyone needs to contact their democratic reps and demand that they stop watching from the sidelines and do something


The Senate has 4 and already voted: Murkowsli, Collins, McConnell and Paul.

The House has 1 who has publicly stated support: Don Bacon.

This measure is DOA even if they do pass it. Trump will veto it.


And at that point, our economy will be at a point where congress may override the veto.

The feckless MAGA Rs will never go against their Dear Leader.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Congress gave the power to levy tariffs to the president. They could take it back, but so far they haven't.


I thought they had enough republicans who would vote to take it back? This is when everyone needs to contact their democratic reps and demand that they stop watching from the sidelines and do something


The Senate has 4 and already voted: Murkowsli, Collins, McConnell and Paul.

The House has 1 who has publicly stated support: Don Bacon.

This measure is DOA even if they do pass it. Trump will veto it.


That's a different bill. The one you're talking about won't stop anything for 60 days.

Are there two separate bills?
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