America planning for next Internment

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How do we define equality here?
Some people think everyone should have the same income. Do you agree?


Hmmm fun debate for middle school.

I recoommend that you go re-read the Constutition. Spend a little extra time on the Fourteenth Amendment and the Fifth Amendment.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Most people are not losing sleep over Venezuelan gang members being deported. The administration needs to get its act together and make sure they aren't deporting US ciitizens but overall this is policy popular with most Americans. Were these people in our country illegally or not? Do you want to win the next election or not?



Look, we are all 100% fine with putting a convicted gang members in prison.

Please read this article about people, deported to CECOT, as SUSPECTED TdA members due to their tattoos.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/20/deported-because-of-his-tattoos-has-the-us-targeted-venezuelans-for-their-body-art

I'll give you an important excerpt: “Experts in Venezuela who study the gang have all stated that there are no tattoos that associate gang members. It’s not like the Central American MS-13 gang where tattoos are relevant in their organization.”

If you want, focus on those people who were in the country legally and have no criminal record.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Most people are not losing sleep over Venezuelan gang members being deported. The administration needs to get its act together and make sure they aren't deporting US ciitizens but overall this is policy popular with most Americans. Were these people in our country illegally or not? Do you want to win the next election or not?


The majority of people being deported are not violent and have never had anything to do with gangs in their lives. The majority of people being deported are harmless agricultural workers, maintenance workers, kitchen workers, landscapers, and so on, who keep millions of American businesses afloat.

Only a small handful of actual gang members were deported, and there was nothing stopping ICE from doing that even prior to Trump other than their own dysfunction.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people are not losing sleep over Venezuelan gang members being deported. The administration needs to get its act together and make sure they aren't deporting US ciitizens but overall this is policy popular with most Americans. Were these people in our country illegally or not? Do you want to win the next election or not?



Look, we are all 100% fine with putting a convicted gang members in prison.

Please read this article about people, deported to CECOT, as SUSPECTED TdA members due to their tattoos.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/20/deported-because-of-his-tattoos-has-the-us-targeted-venezuelans-for-their-body-art

I'll give you an important excerpt: “Experts in Venezuela who study the gang have all stated that there are no tattoos that associate gang members. It’s not like the Central American MS-13 gang where tattoos are relevant in their organization.”

If you want, focus on those people who were in the country legally and have no criminal record.



I was just reading about a guy who got picked up just because he's a Real Madrid soccer fan. I'm fine with rounding up violent criminals but since when is it a violent offense to be a soccer fan? They are going too far. This is ridiculous and unacceptable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people are not losing sleep over Venezuelan gang members being deported. The administration needs to get its act together and make sure they aren't deporting US ciitizens but overall this is policy popular with most Americans. Were these people in our country illegally or not? Do you want to win the next election or not?



Look, we are all 100% fine with putting a convicted gang members in prison.

Please read this article about people, deported to CECOT, as SUSPECTED TdA members due to their tattoos.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/20/deported-because-of-his-tattoos-has-the-us-targeted-venezuelans-for-their-body-art

I'll give you an important excerpt: “Experts in Venezuela who study the gang have all stated that there are no tattoos that associate gang members. It’s not like the Central American MS-13 gang where tattoos are relevant in their organization.”

If you want, focus on those people who were in the country legally and have no criminal record.



I was just reading about a guy who got picked up just because he's a Real Madrid soccer fan. I'm fine with rounding up violent criminals but since when is it a violent offense to be a soccer fan? They are going too far. This is ridiculous and unacceptable.


Not only are they going too far they are proud of it. Holman did an interview where he admitted there would be and have been innocent people picked up who were no more than around near a “suspected” person that they were trying to deport. Like what. So now you’re rounding up innocents and sending them to prision without even due process.
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Anonymous wrote:Most people are not losing sleep over Venezuelan gang members being deported. The administration needs to get its act together and make sure they aren't deporting US ciitizens but overall this is policy popular with most Americans. Were these people in our country illegally or not? Do you want to win the next election or not?


You are correct that most Americans don’t care about Venezuela gang members being deported.

But the thing that should concern all of us is that most did not receive due process, and some appear to have been sent their mistakenly. Like the gay make up artist. Or the young man with the autism awareness tattoo. Or the women in the group that were sent to El Salvador and promptly returned by the El Salvadoran government because it does not accept female prisoners.


The lack of due process is a HUGE problem. It fundamentally shakes any trust and confidence in federal law enforcement.

That, and the abysmal lack of transparency and the fact that they are rounding up people who are here LEGALLY - that should be of concern to EVERY American. That is how bad things have happened throughout history - whether Nazi concentration camps, Stalin's purges, the Great Leap Forward in China, Pol Pot and so on.

Nowhere in history has anything good ever come of this type of behavior.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is Bukele's sense of humor, much appreciated by the trump administration.

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A judge then ordered the planes back, telling the government's lawyers verbally that they should do so "however that's accomplished — whether turning around the plane or not."

But the court order was never heeded, and the planes stayed the course.

"Oopsie…too late," El Salvador's president, Nayib Bukele, posted on X after the deportees landed in his country. He included an emoji crying with laughter. The post was reshared by the White House's director of communications, Steven Cheung.

(https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9wpek7p0kno)


Why didn't Judge Boasberg hold the government attorneys in contempt and issue a bench warrant and out them in DC jail for a few weeks.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people are not losing sleep over Venezuelan gang members being deported. The administration needs to get its act together and make sure they aren't deporting US ciitizens but overall this is policy popular with most Americans. Were these people in our country illegally or not? Do you want to win the next election or not?


You are correct that most Americans don’t care about Venezuela gang members being deported.

But the thing that should concern all of us is that most did not receive due process, and some appear to have been sent their mistakenly. Like the gay make up artist. Or the young man with the autism awareness tattoo. Or the women in the group that were sent to El Salvador and promptly returned by the El Salvadoran government because it does not accept female prisoners.


The lack of due process is a HUGE problem. It fundamentally shakes any trust and confidence in federal law enforcement.

That, and the abysmal lack of transparency and the fact that they are rounding up people who are here LEGALLY - that should be of concern to EVERY American. That is how bad things have happened throughout history - whether Nazi concentration camps, Stalin's purges, the Great Leap Forward in China, Pol Pot and so on.

Nowhere in history has anything good ever come of this type of behavior.


1000%
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people are not losing sleep over Venezuelan gang members being deported. The administration needs to get its act together and make sure they aren't deporting US ciitizens but overall this is policy popular with most Americans. Were these people in our country illegally or not? Do you want to win the next election or not?



Look, we are all 100% fine with putting a convicted gang members in prison.

Please read this article about people, deported to CECOT, as SUSPECTED TdA members due to their tattoos.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/20/deported-because-of-his-tattoos-has-the-us-targeted-venezuelans-for-their-body-art

I'll give you an important excerpt: “Experts in Venezuela who study the gang have all stated that there are no tattoos that associate gang members. It’s not like the Central American MS-13 gang where tattoos are relevant in their organization.”

If you want, focus on those people who were in the country legally and have no criminal record.



I was just reading about a guy who got picked up just because he's a Real Madrid soccer fan. I'm fine with rounding up violent criminals but since when is it a violent offense to be a soccer fan? They are going too far. This is ridiculous and unacceptable.



He is the one I was just talking about above. He has no criminal record anywhere. He is a professional goalie and youth soccer coach. He applied for asylum and did everything legally. He was detained (under Biden, it should be added), awaiting his hearing in April, due to a crowned soccer ball tattoo. Crowns are one of the tattoos DHS looks for.

Up to here, we might have our disagreements about aggressive and potentially misguided profiling methods but ok...

Until Trump decides to round up any Venezuelan who has ever been flagged for having a tattoo.

This is not ok! This guy should not be in a maximum security Salvadoran prison. What can we do about this???
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Look at these article photos, and pictures of the tents built at Gitmo, historical images of Auschwitz, Japenese internments camps, slave ships. Then tell me that this Administration is not planning for the same.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj4nrdnp018o

For the record, I completely get how/why El Salvador built Cecot. But when they did that were they expecting all this press and al these visits? Are they now trying to be the jail country? And if so what’s in it for them?


You don't get how advertising that crime doesn't pay could make a country appealing?

And what's in it for them sees to be a suddenly functional country. Despite all the complaints from the usual suspects the country is actually nice to live in for the first time in generations.


I'd like to know who you mean when you say "the usuals suspects" so dismissively. Are you talking about the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights at the UN? Because a lot of us respect the UN.

The United States was founded on principles of liberty, justice, and equality. It is un-American to gloss over human rights abuses.


Except that the United States never got around to fully extending Liberty, justice, and equality to all of us — deliberately, by design. It’s inhumane to gloss over human rights abuses — including legal racial segregation. Yeah, some of us, even in the DC area, experienced that. If you’re going to support the principles you should also acknowledge the crimes that those principles allowed to fester.
Anonymous
Cool. They can find me at the African American History and Culture Museum. I was just reminded of it . They can take me there

I read a lot recently so I can retell those stories

Also, I saw about 1OO Karen arrest videos on line during the pandemic — so I feel ready for that reaction and I would not take the bait!
Anonymous
Read for that interaction or engagement.
Awesome. My diet might take a bit but I am cool with that too. Just lost five pounds since Trump fired me!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people are not losing sleep over Venezuelan gang members being deported. The administration needs to get its act together and make sure they aren't deporting US ciitizens but overall this is policy popular with most Americans. Were these people in our country illegally or not? Do you want to win the next election or not?



Look, we are all 100% fine with putting a convicted gang members in prison.

Please read this article about people, deported to CECOT, as SUSPECTED TdA members due to their tattoos.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/20/deported-because-of-his-tattoos-has-the-us-targeted-venezuelans-for-their-body-art

I'll give you an important excerpt: “Experts in Venezuela who study the gang have all stated that there are no tattoos that associate gang members. It’s not like the Central American MS-13 gang where tattoos are relevant in their organization.”

If you want, focus on those people who were in the country legally and have no criminal record.



I was just reading about a guy who got picked up just because he's a Real Madrid soccer fan. I'm fine with rounding up violent criminals but since when is it a violent offense to be a soccer fan? They are going too far. This is ridiculous and unacceptable.



He is the one I was just talking about above. He has no criminal record anywhere. He is a professional goalie and youth soccer coach. He applied for asylum and did everything legally. He was detained (under Biden, it should be added), awaiting his hearing in April, due to a crowned soccer ball tattoo. Crowns are one of the tattoos DHS looks for.

Up to here, we might have our disagreements about aggressive and potentially misguided profiling methods but ok...

Until Trump decides to round up any Venezuelan who has ever been flagged for having a tattoo.

This is not ok! This guy should not be in a maximum security Salvadoran prison. What can we do about this???


And don’t forget the gay Venezuelan make up artist who was in the US legally when he was sent to the El Salvadorean prison with no due process. Pretty sure he’s not a gang member. I fear for his safety in that hellhole.

Anonymous
Weird. But I also basically painted myself as a church singer when I got divorced before a judge. I sing in the shower.

I mean … I’ll wait to see what they have on him. You never know
Anonymous
That could be fake
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