Kids who threaten schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because kids are still growing, their brains aren't fully developed, and some are trying to get out of a test or a paper due, or want to mess with a friend at another school. You really want expulsion for a 9-10 year old (3rd/4th grade)?

Kids of all ages need more mental health support, and we need more special ed teachers (pay them MORE for the increased workload with all the extra paperwork along with their regular teacher duties), and more discrete classrooms. LRE (least restrictive environment) has gone too far in the other direction, as many kids need smaller class size and extra attention.

Yes, expulsion from any kind of gen Ed school or a sped program within a gen Ed school. Those younger kids can go to therapeutic schools. Or their parents can homeschool them. I'm a teacher of very young children and I am over being hit, kicked, bit, pushed, threatened, etc. OVER IT As an employee, I have a right to be safe. My other students have a right to be safe. As things stand, we are NOT safe. I do not care if kids are 5 years old. Throwing scissors at a teacher is not the behavior of a child that belongs in any kind of a gen Ed or sped within a gen Ed school setting. Period.

That’s a whole different post.
Not what OP was talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because kids are still growing, their brains aren't fully developed, and some are trying to get out of a test or a paper due, or want to mess with a friend at another school. You really want expulsion for a 9-10 year old (3rd/4th grade)?

Kids of all ages need more mental health support, and we need more special ed teachers (pay them MORE for the increased workload with all the extra paperwork along with their regular teacher duties), and more discrete classrooms. LRE (least restrictive environment) has gone too far in the other direction, as many kids need smaller class size and extra attention.

Absolutely. Real consequences might lead to them thinking more carefully about their actions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because kids are still growing, their brains aren't fully developed, and some are trying to get out of a test or a paper due, or want to mess with a friend at another school. You really want expulsion for a 9-10 year old (3rd/4th grade)?

Kids of all ages need more mental health support, and we need more special ed teachers (pay them MORE for the increased workload with all the extra paperwork along with their regular teacher duties), and more discrete classrooms. LRE (least restrictive environment) has gone too far in the other direction, as many kids need smaller class size and extra attention.

Absolutely. Real consequences might lead to them thinking more carefully about their actions.

Really? A nine year old? Nine year olds don't think about their actions or consequences

[Anonymous]

Yes really. No more threats to commit mass violence and no more disrupting every dang day with physical aggression. No more. I do not care if they are 9. I don't care if they are 5. No more

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because kids are still growing, their brains aren't fully developed, and some are trying to get out of a test or a paper due, or want to mess with a friend at another school. You really want expulsion for a 9-10 year old (3rd/4th grade)?

Kids of all ages need more mental health support, and we need more special ed teachers (pay them MORE for the increased workload with all the extra paperwork along with their regular teacher duties), and more discrete classrooms. LRE (least restrictive environment) has gone too far in the other direction, as many kids need smaller class size and extra attention.

Absolutely. Real consequences might lead to them thinking more carefully about their actions.

Really? A nine year old? Nine year olds don't think about their actions or consequences

Yes they do.

[Anonymous]

I know of three cases at three different schools where kids were falsely accused of threats. It was devastating to them. You need due process, and punishment for kids who make false accusations too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I personally think that any kid who threatens mass violence at a school should never, ever be allowed in a school building again if they are in 3rd or 4th grade on up. And younger kids should immediately be transferred to a high security therapeutic school. I'm a teacher and I'm OVER being threatened and assaulted. There are some states that are now changing the behavior codes. I'm all for that

+1
Automatic expulsion from all Maryland schools.

Not +1, not what PP said.

We're you expelled from school? Is that why you can't read?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I personally think that any kid who threatens mass violence at a school should never, ever be allowed in a school building again if they are in 3rd or 4th grade on up. And younger kids should immediately be transferred to a high security therapeutic school. I'm a teacher and I'm OVER being threatened and assaulted. There are some states that are now changing the behavior codes. I'm all for that

"Never, ever" is extreme for a 9 year old. If you don't believe children can learn, why waste time and money having school at all?

[Anonymous]

When I was 9 I knew not to threaten anyone, much less make a bomb threat against a school. Expel them early I say. The amount of $ wasted on these kids who just wind up jobless or in jail anyways. They cost 10x more per year than kids who are raised right, because they’re all in special programs. Best to weed them out early it will save million$

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I personally think that any kid who threatens mass violence at a school should never, ever be allowed in a school building again if they are in 3rd or 4th grade on up. And younger kids should immediately be transferred to a high security therapeutic school. I'm a teacher and I'm OVER being threatened and assaulted. There are some states that are now changing the behavior codes. I'm all for that

"Never, ever" is extreme for a 9 year old. If you don't believe children can learn, why waste time and money having school at all?

Except children who are expelled for making threats will learn and so will their peers when there are actual consequences. And how can anyone learn in unsafe environments? Being threatened is extreme when you're 9 or 6 or whatever. How can everyone learn when their nervous systems are on high alert? How can teachers teach when they are focused on whether they'll be shot?

[Anonymous]

Expelling a child under 10 for a verbal threat is insane especially w the lack of special education support MCPS currently offers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I personally think that any kid who threatens mass violence at a school should never, ever be allowed in a school building again if they are in 3rd or 4th grade on up. And younger kids should immediately be transferred to a high security therapeutic school. I'm a teacher and I'm OVER being threatened and assaulted. There are some states that are now changing the behavior codes. I'm all for that

100%

[Anonymous]

Just out of curiosity, where are these special schools you all refer to? They sure aren't public, so MCPS will spend a fortune to educate them privately. More like, as proven before, because for now anyway we still have to provide free and public education for all kids, they'll just be transferred to another school, where they will be a problem for other students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Expelling a child under 10 for a verbal threat is insane especially w the lack of special education support MCPS currently offers.

Completely insane.

[Anonymous]

I'm mixed. I wan't safe schools but I still remember the incident where MCPS accused an ES kid of making an email threat and it turned out someone else at MCPS accessed the kids account and the information was deleted by the MCPS computer staff. The name of a former Sup (who was paid a lot of money to leave) was all over that paperwork.