What makes the "worst" hs's in FCPS so bad?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Actually, the bottom 4 schools were all below the national average of 1509, and the bottom 6 schools were all below the Virginia average score of 1521.

Which is not surprising considering the student populations (international, low-income, etc.) these schools are educating.

[Anonymous]

Let's add some more districts to the list!

Couldn't readily find info for Fredericksburg, Spotsylvania, Frederick, Winchester, Warren, Fauquier, or Clarke.

TJ 2200
Langley 1812
George Mason 1795
McLean 1778
YORKTOWN 1741
Woodson 1738
Madison 1734
Oakton 1729
Marshall 1690
WASHINGTON-LEE 1670
Robinson 1665
Chantilly 1663 (+1)
STONE BRIDGE - 1655
West Springfield 1644 (+3)
Herndon 1642 (+1)
POTOMAC FALLS - 1640
Lake Braddock 1639 (-1)
Fairfax 1635 (+1)
LOUDOUN VALLEY - 1635
Westfield 1625 (-5)
BROAD RUN - 1619
DOMINION - 1618
BRIAR WOODS - 1613
LOUDOUN COUNTY - 1612
Centreville 1596 (-1)
BRENTSVILLE 1596
OSBOURN PARK 1587
COLONIAL FORGE 1581
South Lakes 1578 (+1)
South County 1572 (-1)
HERITAGE - 1564
FREEDOM - 1563
West Potomac 1561
BATTLEFIELD 1559
FOREST PARK 1537
Stuart 1532 (+1)
VIRGINIA AVERAGE 1521
Annandale 1518 (+1)
Edison 1512 (-2)
STAFFORD 1509
NATIONAL AVERAGE 1509
Falls Church 1505 (+2)
Mountain View 1505
Lee 1504 (-1)
Brooke Point 1499
WOODBRIDGE - 1497
PARK VIEW - 1486
WAKEFIELD - 1484
NORTH STAFFORD 1473
STONEWALL JACKSON - 1467
Hayfield 1475 (-1)
HYLTON 1467
Mount Vernon 1458
TC WILLIAMS - 1442
GAR-FIELD 1440
POTOMAC 1408
FREEDOM (PWC) 1310

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let's add some more districts to the list!

Couldn't readily find info for Fredericksburg, Spotsylvania, Frederick, Winchester, Warren, Fauquier, or Clarke.

I'm confused now!? Can you indicate the county/city for each of these schools?

[Anonymous]

Now with districty goodness:

Fairfax in black
Independent cities in orange
Prince William in dark red
Loudoun in brown
Arlington in green
Stafford in blue

TJ 2200 (Magnet)
Langley 1812 (Fairfax)
George Mason 1795 (Falls Church City)
McLean 1778 (Fairfax)
Yorktown 1741 (Arlington)
Woodson 1738 (Fairfax)
Madison 1734 (Fairfax)
Oakton 1729 (Fairfax)
Marshall 1690 (Fairfax)
Washington-Lee 1670 (Arlington)
Robinson 1665 (Fairfax)
Chantilly 1663 (Fairfax)
Stone Bridge 1655 (Loudoun)
West Springfield 1644 (Fairfax)
Herndon 1642 (Fairfax)
Potomac Falls 1640 (Loudoun)
Lake Braddock 1639 (Fairfax)
Fairfax 1635 (Fairfax)
Loudoun Valley 1635 (Loudoun)
Westfield 1625 (Fairfax)
Broad Run 1619 (Loudoun)
Dominion 1618 (Loudoun)
Briar Woods 1613 (Loudoun)
Loudoun County 1612 (Loudoun)
Centreville 1596 (Fairfax)
Brentsville 1596 (Prince William)
Osbourn Park 1587 (Prince William)
Colonial Forge 1581 (Stafford)
South Lakes 1578 (Fairfax)
South County 1572 (Fairfax)
Heritage 1564 (Loudoun)
Freedom 1563 (Loudoun)
West Potomac 1561 (Fairfax)
Battlefield 1559 (Prince William)
Forest Park 1537 (Prince William)
Stuart 1532 (Fairfax)
VIRGINIA AVERAGE 1521
Annandale 1518 (Fairfax)
Edison 1512 (Fairfax)
Stafford 1509 (Stafford)
NATIONAL AVERAGE 1509
Falls Church 1505 (Fairfax)
Mountain View 1505 (Stafford)
Lee 1504 (Fairfax)
Brooke Point 1499 (Stafford)
Woodbridge 1497 (Prince William)
Park View 1486 (Loudoun)
Wakefield 1484 (Arlington)
North Stafford 1473 (Stafford)
Stonewall Jackson 1467 (Prince William)
Hayfield 1475 (Fairfax)
Hylton 1467 (Prince William)
Mount Vernon 1458 (Fairfax)
TC Williams 1442 (Alexandria)
Gar-Field 1440 (Prince William)
Potomac 1408 (Prince William)
Freedom 1310 (Prince William)

[Anonymous]

This is useful data. It would be even more helpful if the demographics (% of ESOL/FRL, sort by race) of the school's test takers were factored in. Is that data readily available as an overlay? Is that information considered inappropriate? These are not meant to be snarky questions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is useful data. It would be even more helpful if the demographics (% of ESOL/FRL, sort by race) of the school's test takers were factored in. Is that data readily available as an overlay? Is that information considered inappropriate? These are not meant to be snarky questions.

The demographics for each school, I think, are easily available. OTOH, not so sure about the test takers from each school.

That'd involve emails to school boards, etc., and in some cases (e.g. FRL for Langley), there'd be so few data points as to make it useless.

[Anonymous]

OK-anyone know how supportive the lower ranked HSs are for college bound kids? Do Edison and West Potomac get ehri fair share of kinds into UVa, or only the top 8 kids in the class?

[Anonymous]

Sorry should have been: fair share of kids

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is useful data. It would be even more helpful if the demographics (% of ESOL/FRL, sort by race) of the school's test takers were factored in. Is that data readily available as an overlay? Is that information considered inappropriate? These are not meant to be snarky questions.

At some point that info, with SAT test scores by demographic category, FRL status, etc., will be up on the FCPS website in the invidual school profiles. It's currently available for past years, but I don't have the time to compile it all. For example, for McLean High school follow this link: http://commweb.fcps.edu/schoolprofile/profile.cfm?profile_id=030 Then click on the "test results" tab and the SAT link and you can see SAT scores disaggregated by lots of categories. I wonder when they'll have that kind of detail posted for the most recent SAT ...

[Anonymous]

Thank you 09:35! Just what I was hoping to find.

[Anonymous]

We have kids going to Rose Hill Elementary (I think it's 60% hispanic and 49% receive free or reduced lunch). We're a very happy with it. It's a feeder school to Edison and our neighbors' kids go there. With one exception, every one is happy with it. That exception sends her kids to Catholic school because (gasp!) some of the kids from Edison drop out! There are kids who are in Section 8 housing and kids who are in houses that cost a $1M+. As much as I'd like it, I have no expectation that our kids will go to UVA because this area is saturated with high achieving, adversity defying kids and we're just average. There's a quota for kids from NOVA and I'm not willing to stress my kids out and have them busting their asses just to get into UVA. There's more to life than test scores and UVA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have kids going to Rose Hill Elementary (I think it's 60% hispanic and 49% receive free or reduced lunch). We're a very happy with it. It's a feeder school to Edison and our neighbors' kids go there. With one exception, every one is happy with it. That exception sends her kids to Catholic school because (gasp!) some of the kids from Edison drop out! There are kids who are in Section 8 housing and kids who are in houses that cost a $1M+. As much as I'd like it, I have no expectation that our kids will go to UVA because this area is saturated with high achieving, adversity defying kids and we're just average. There's a quota for kids from NOVA and I'm not willing to stress my kids out and have them busting their asses just to get into UVA. There's more to life than test scores and UVA.

Very few houses in the Edison district go for over $1 million these days. May have been more during the bubble era. Glad you're happy with your neighborhood school, though.

[Anonymous]

NP ... I think the Wilton Woods and Ashby Manor neighborhoods probably have million dollar houses still, or close enough to make PPs point on economic diversity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Agreeing with both PP's. I attended West Potomac and there isn't anything bad about that school as far as the education goes. I was in all AP courses and received an excellent education. So would your child, if they were so inclined.

What most people that you're talking about say bad they mean too many poor, low performing, chip eating kids. They don't want those kids influencing theirs. Which is interesting because there are plenty of well off families in these schools as well. It is Fairfax County after all.

That being said I have a lot of friends that graduated from Annandale, but I would avoid it at the moment because I believe it is over crowded this year.

I'll watch out for those chip eating kids. LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP ... I think the Wilton Woods and Ashby Manor neighborhoods probably have million dollar houses still, or close enough to make PPs point on economic diversity.

Sure, the area may be diverse. Most places in NoVa are. OTOH, there are very few houses in the Edison district that sell for over $1M these days, and they generally are in the Clermont ES, not Rose Hill ES, district. I realize this is about quality schools, not real estate, but why not be accurate?