Why is China able to built amazing infrastructure so fast?

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Anonymous wrote:Americans can't understand that they're often not #1 in doing things. They love to try to crap on countries Iike China by pointing out things like ghost cities they heard about or some road falling apart they googled, but look at American infrastructure from lead poisoning in Flint Michigan to the collapsed bridge in Minnesota that killed 13 people after standing for less than 40 years. Or the rail disaster in Ohio. Puhlease, Americans have zero room to criticize other countries about standards, OSHA, and quality, lol.

Go actually travel to Shenzhen and see it with your own eyes. It looks like a futuristic wonderworld that will warp your mind. It makes NYC look like it is behind by 100 years. Try actually riding Chinese bullet trains. They are very high quality and are now the fastest in the world. They blow away anything the US has.

It also isn't simply because the Chinese are communist. Go travel to South Korea or Japan. They have very high quality infrastructure and can build rail. The shinkansen has had zero deaths in over 60+ years of its entire existence and after billions of trips. Meanwhile, how many deaths and rail accidents have occurred in the US over those same number of years.

The reason the US can't do it is because we have too many lobbyists, we are too inefficient, we are awful at planning, too much corruptin, and much of our labor is massively overpaid, and we are simply a bunch of idiots running around trying to put square pegs into around holes. Americans are often terrible at doing things and aren often not #1. Americans need to wrap their brains around it. I mean look how long it took the US to do the big dig around Boston. Billions in overrun costs. And once it was completed it fell apart due to shoddy American construction.

Probably in the 1950th and before US was the best at building infrastructure.
Now we are in the virtual infrastructure while the real ones crumble.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Americans can't understand that they're often not #1 in doing things. They love to try to crap on countries Iike China by pointing out things like ghost cities they heard about or some road falling apart they googled, but look at American infrastructure from lead poisoning in Flint Michigan to the collapsed bridge in Minnesota that killed 13 people after standing for less than 40 years. Or the rail disaster in Ohio. Puhlease, Americans have zero room to criticize other countries about standards, OSHA, and quality, lol.

Go actually travel to Shenzhen and see it with your own eyes. It looks like a futuristic wonderworld that will warp your mind. It makes NYC look like it is behind by 100 years. Try actually riding Chinese bullet trains. They are very high quality and are now the fastest in the world. They blow away anything the US has.

It also isn't simply because the Chinese are communist. Go travel to South Korea or Japan. They have very high quality infrastructure and can build rail. The shinkansen has had zero deaths in over 60+ years of its entire existence and after billions of trips. Meanwhile, how many deaths and rail accidents have occurred in the US over those same number of years.

The reason the US can't do it is because we have too many lobbyists, we are too inefficient, we are awful at planning, too much corruptin, and much of our labor is massively overpaid, and we are simply a bunch of idiots running around trying to put square pegs into around holes. Americans are often terrible at doing things and aren often not #1. Americans need to wrap their brains around it. I mean look how long it took the US to do the big dig around Boston. Billions in overrun costs. And once it was completed it fell apart due to shoddy American construction.

It is easier to build new things than it is to renovate in place. That is true in China and here. The newer cities in the US (sometimes) have well built infrastructure. Big new projects here are impressive. Bridges or water systems that are 50-100 years old are less so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Americans can't understand that they're often not #1 in doing things. They love to try to crap on countries Iike China by pointing out things like ghost cities they heard about or some road falling apart they googled, but look at American infrastructure from lead poisoning in Flint Michigan to the collapsed bridge in Minnesota that killed 13 people after standing for less than 40 years. Or the rail disaster in Ohio. Puhlease, Americans have zero room to criticize other countries about standards, OSHA, and quality, lol.

Go actually travel to Shenzhen and see it with your own eyes. It looks like a futuristic wonderworld that will warp your mind. It makes NYC look like it is behind by 100 years. Try actually riding Chinese bullet trains. They are very high quality and are now the fastest in the world. They blow away anything the US has.

It also isn't simply because the Chinese are communist. Go travel to South Korea or Japan. They have very high quality infrastructure and can build rail. The shinkansen has had zero deaths in over 60+ years of its entire existence and after billions of trips. Meanwhile, how many deaths and rail accidents have occurred in the US over those same number of years.

The reason the US can't do it is because we have too many lobbyists, we are too inefficient, we are awful at planning, too much corruptin, and much of our labor is massively overpaid, and we are simply a bunch of idiots running around trying to put square pegs into around holes. Americans are often terrible at doing things and aren often not #1. Americans need to wrap their brains around it. I mean look how long it took the US to do the big dig around Boston. Billions in overrun costs. And once it was completed it fell apart due to shoddy American construction.

Hey, power down, space cowboy. You came in hot and were the only one crapping on another country here.

Is that common for your culture? Because it seems to happen a lot around here.

[Anonymous]

This is why Eisenhower was the best modern day President. The interstate highway system transformed America to a first world economy like no other innovation has.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Americans can't understand that they're often not #1 in doing things. They love to try to crap on countries Iike China by pointing out things like ghost cities they heard about or some road falling apart they googled, but look at American infrastructure from lead poisoning in Flint Michigan to the collapsed bridge in Minnesota that killed 13 people after standing for less than 40 years. Or the rail disaster in Ohio. Puhlease, Americans have zero room to criticize other countries about standards, OSHA, and quality, lol.

Go actually travel to Shenzhen and see it with your own eyes. It looks like a futuristic wonderworld that will warp your mind. It makes NYC look like it is behind by 100 years. Try actually riding Chinese bullet trains. They are very high quality and are now the fastest in the world. They blow away anything the US has.

It also isn't simply because the Chinese are communist. Go travel to South Korea or Japan. They have very high quality infrastructure and can build rail. The shinkansen has had zero deaths in over 60+ years of its entire existence and after billions of trips. Meanwhile, how many deaths and rail accidents have occurred in the US over those same number of years.

The reason the US can't do it is because we have too many lobbyists, we are too inefficient, we are awful at planning, too much corruptin, and much of our labor is massively overpaid, and we are simply a bunch of idiots running around trying to put square pegs into around holes. Americans are often terrible at doing things and aren often not #1. Americans need to wrap their brains around it. I mean look how long it took the US to do the big dig around Boston. Billions in overrun costs. And once it was completed it fell apart due to shoddy American construction.

It is easier to build new things than it is to renovate in place. That is true in China and here. The newer cities in the US (sometimes) have well built infrastructure. Big new projects here are impressive. Bridges or water systems that are 50-100 years old are less so.

Sounds like a bunch of copium. When other people in the world do things better, it is only because it must have been an easier project. Americans can't fathom that sorry, they don't always have the best engineers and are often very crappy at infrastructure development and planning. This is what impressive infrastructure really looks like:

That was all built to improve existing infrastructure. There's always a ton of excuses when we can't improve our infrastructure in the US. Maybe it's simply because we stink at it, we don't have the best engineering capabilities, and there's far too much red tape and corruption.

[Anonymous]

My aunt and uncle did a tour of China. They went to one city that was full of high rises with no elevators. But no one lived in them. China finances building as a public employment program, not because things are needed. They have SERIOUS quality issues in their project too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is why Eisenhower was the best modern day President. The interstate highway system transformed America to a first world economy like no other innovation has.

Apparently he was inspired by the autobahn system he saw in Germany during WWII.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Americans can't understand that they're often not #1 in doing things. They love to try to crap on countries Iike China by pointing out things like ghost cities they heard about or some road falling apart they googled, but look at American infrastructure from lead poisoning in Flint Michigan to the collapsed bridge in Minnesota that killed 13 people after standing for less than 40 years. Or the rail disaster in Ohio. Puhlease, Americans have zero room to criticize other countries about standards, OSHA, and quality, lol.

Go actually travel to Shenzhen and see it with your own eyes. It looks like a futuristic wonderworld that will warp your mind. It makes NYC look like it is behind by 100 years. Try actually riding Chinese bullet trains. They are very high quality and are now the fastest in the world. They blow away anything the US has.

It also isn't simply because the Chinese are communist. Go travel to South Korea or Japan. They have very high quality infrastructure and can build rail. The shinkansen has had zero deaths in over 60+ years of its entire existence and after billions of trips. Meanwhile, how many deaths and rail accidents have occurred in the US over those same number of years.

The reason the US can't do it is because we have too many lobbyists, we are too inefficient, we are awful at planning, too much corruptin, and much of our labor is massively overpaid, and we are simply a bunch of idiots running around trying to put square pegs into around holes. Americans are often terrible at doing things and aren often not #1. Americans need to wrap their brains around it. I mean look how long it took the US to do the big dig around Boston. Billions in overrun costs. And once it was completed it fell apart due to shoddy American construction.

It is easier to build new things than it is to renovate in place. That is true in China and here. The newer cities in the US (sometimes) have well built infrastructure. Big new projects here are impressive. Bridges or water systems that are 50-100 years old are less so.

Sounds like a bunch of copium. When other people in the world do things better, it is only because it must have been an easier project. Americans can't fathom that sorry, they don't always have the best engineers and are often very crappy at infrastructure development and planning. This is what impressive infrastructure really looks like:

That was all built to improve existing infrastructure. There's always a ton of excuses when we can't improve our infrastructure in the US. Maybe it's simply because we stink at it, we don't have the best engineering capabilities, and there's far too much red tape and corruption.

Tokyo is Japan, not China.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Americans can't understand that they're often not #1 in doing things. They love to try to crap on countries Iike China by pointing out things like ghost cities they heard about or some road falling apart they googled, but look at American infrastructure from lead poisoning in Flint Michigan to the collapsed bridge in Minnesota that killed 13 people after standing for less than 40 years. Or the rail disaster in Ohio. Puhlease, Americans have zero room to criticize other countries about standards, OSHA, and quality, lol.

Go actually travel to Shenzhen and see it with your own eyes. It looks like a futuristic wonderworld that will warp your mind. It makes NYC look like it is behind by 100 years. Try actually riding Chinese bullet trains. They are very high quality and are now the fastest in the world. They blow away anything the US has.

It also isn't simply because the Chinese are communist. Go travel to South Korea or Japan. They have very high quality infrastructure and can build rail. The shinkansen has had zero deaths in over 60+ years of its entire existence and after billions of trips. Meanwhile, how many deaths and rail accidents have occurred in the US over those same number of years.

The reason the US can't do it is because we have too many lobbyists, we are too inefficient, we are awful at planning, too much corruptin, and much of our labor is massively overpaid, and we are simply a bunch of idiots running around trying to put square pegs into around holes. Americans are often terrible at doing things and aren often not #1. Americans need to wrap their brains around it. I mean look how long it took the US to do the big dig around Boston. Billions in overrun costs. And once it was completed it fell apart due to shoddy American construction.

It is easier to build new things than it is to renovate in place. That is true in China and here. The newer cities in the US (sometimes) have well built infrastructure. Big new projects here are impressive. Bridges or water systems that are 50-100 years old are less so.

I think it’s the opposite.
I don’t think all those landmarks in the US can be built now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Americans can't understand that they're often not #1 in doing things. They love to try to crap on countries Iike China by pointing out things like ghost cities they heard about or some road falling apart they googled, but look at American infrastructure from lead poisoning in Flint Michigan to the collapsed bridge in Minnesota that killed 13 people after standing for less than 40 years. Or the rail disaster in Ohio. Puhlease, Americans have zero room to criticize other countries about standards, OSHA, and quality, lol.

Go actually travel to Shenzhen and see it with your own eyes. It looks like a futuristic wonderworld that will warp your mind. It makes NYC look like it is behind by 100 years. Try actually riding Chinese bullet trains. They are very high quality and are now the fastest in the world. They blow away anything the US has.

It also isn't simply because the Chinese are communist. Go travel to South Korea or Japan. They have very high quality infrastructure and can build rail. The shinkansen has had zero deaths in over 60+ years of its entire existence and after billions of trips. Meanwhile, how many deaths and rail accidents have occurred in the US over those same number of years.

The reason the US can't do it is because we have too many lobbyists, we are too inefficient, we are awful at planning, too much corruptin, and much of our labor is massively overpaid, and we are simply a bunch of idiots running around trying to put square pegs into around holes. Americans are often terrible at doing things and aren often not #1. Americans need to wrap their brains around it. I mean look how long it took the US to do the big dig around Boston. Billions in overrun costs. And once it was completed it fell apart due to shoddy American construction.

You need to get out more. No one is saying that there isn’t corruption or other problems in the U.S. The US just has less of it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Americans can't understand that they're often not #1 in doing things. They love to try to crap on countries Iike China by pointing out things like ghost cities they heard about or some road falling apart they googled, but look at American infrastructure from lead poisoning in Flint Michigan to the collapsed bridge in Minnesota that killed 13 people after standing for less than 40 years. Or the rail disaster in Ohio. Puhlease, Americans have zero room to criticize other countries about standards, OSHA, and quality, lol.

Go actually travel to Shenzhen and see it with your own eyes. It looks like a futuristic wonderworld that will warp your mind. It makes NYC look like it is behind by 100 years. Try actually riding Chinese bullet trains. They are very high quality and are now the fastest in the world. They blow away anything the US has.

It also isn't simply because the Chinese are communist. Go travel to South Korea or Japan. They have very high quality infrastructure and can build rail. The shinkansen has had zero deaths in over 60+ years of its entire existence and after billions of trips. Meanwhile, how many deaths and rail accidents have occurred in the US over those same number of years.

The reason the US can't do it is because we have too many lobbyists, we are too inefficient, we are awful at planning, too much corruptin, and much of our labor is massively overpaid, and we are simply a bunch of idiots running around trying to put square pegs into around holes. Americans are often terrible at doing things and aren often not #1. Americans need to wrap their brains around it. I mean look how long it took the US to do the big dig around Boston. Billions in overrun costs. And once it was completed it fell apart due to shoddy American construction.

It is easier to build new things than it is to renovate in place. That is true in China and here. The newer cities in the US (sometimes) have well built infrastructure. Big new projects here are impressive. Bridges or water systems that are 50-100 years old are less so.

Sounds like a bunch of copium. When other people in the world do things better, it is only because it must have been an easier project. Americans can't fathom that sorry, they don't always have the best engineers and are often very crappy at infrastructure development and planning. This is what impressive infrastructure really looks like:

That was all built to improve existing infrastructure. There's always a ton of excuses when we can't improve our infrastructure in the US. Maybe it's simply because we stink at it, we don't have the best engineering capabilities, and there's far too much red tape and corruption.

Tokyo is Japan, not China.

You seem dense. The point is that when China builds impressive infrastructure like the world's largest and fastest network of high speed rail, or a futuristic city like Shenzen, Americans will use the excuse that they're communist. That argument gets blown up when you also point out the fact that democratic counties like Japan and South Korea are capable of building mind blowing infrastructure that blows anything the US has out of the water.

Garbage infrastructure is a uniquely American thing. The richest country in the world is now 70 years behind our counterparts because we have too much corruption like we are a 2nd world country, we don't have the best engineers anymore, and we throw away trillions of dollars on F35 development to bomb goat herders in Afghanistan rather than improve our own country.

Sorry, but the excuses that "The Chinese are communists and do shoddy work!", or that, "It is easier to build new rather than improve!" don't fly when there are so many counterexamples of horrible American quality and other democracies on the planet improving their infrastructure in impressive ways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Americans can't understand that they're often not #1 in doing things. They love to try to crap on countries Iike China by pointing out things like ghost cities they heard about or some road falling apart they googled, but look at American infrastructure from lead poisoning in Flint Michigan to the collapsed bridge in Minnesota that killed 13 people after standing for less than 40 years. Or the rail disaster in Ohio. Puhlease, Americans have zero room to criticize other countries about standards, OSHA, and quality, lol.

Go actually travel to Shenzhen and see it with your own eyes. It looks like a futuristic wonderworld that will warp your mind. It makes NYC look like it is behind by 100 years. Try actually riding Chinese bullet trains. They are very high quality and are now the fastest in the world. They blow away anything the US has.

It also isn't simply because the Chinese are communist. Go travel to South Korea or Japan. They have very high quality infrastructure and can build rail. The shinkansen has had zero deaths in over 60+ years of its entire existence and after billions of trips. Meanwhile, how many deaths and rail accidents have occurred in the US over those same number of years.

The reason the US can't do it is because we have too many lobbyists, we are too inefficient, we are awful at planning, too much corruptin, and much of our labor is massively overpaid, and we are simply a bunch of idiots running around trying to put square pegs into around holes. Americans are often terrible at doing things and aren often not #1. Americans need to wrap their brains around it. I mean look how long it took the US to do the big dig around Boston. Billions in overrun costs. And once it was completed it fell apart due to shoddy American construction.

It is easier to build new things than it is to renovate in place. That is true in China and here. The newer cities in the US (sometimes) have well built infrastructure. Big new projects here are impressive. Bridges or water systems that are 50-100 years old are less so.

Sounds like a bunch of copium. When other people in the world do things better, it is only because it must have been an easier project. Americans can't fathom that sorry, they don't always have the best engineers and are often very crappy at infrastructure development and planning. This is what impressive infrastructure really looks like:

That was all built to improve existing infrastructure. There's always a ton of excuses when we can't improve our infrastructure in the US. Maybe it's simply because we stink at it, we don't have the best engineering capabilities, and there's far too much red tape and corruption.

Tokyo is Japan, not China.

You seem dense. The point is that when China builds impressive infrastructure like the world's largest and fastest network of high speed rail, or a futuristic city like Shenzen, Americans will use the excuse that they're communist. That argument gets blown up when you also point out the fact that democratic counties like Japan and South Korea are capable of building mind blowing infrastructure that blows anything the US has out of the water.

Garbage infrastructure is a uniquely American thing. The richest country in the world is now 70 years behind our counterparts because we have too much corruption like we are a 2nd world country, we don't have the best engineers anymore, and we throw away trillions of dollars on F35 development to bomb goat herders in Afghanistan rather than improve our own country.

Sorry, but the excuses that "The Chinese are communists and do shoddy work!", or that, "It is easier to build new rather than improve!" don't fly when there are so many counterexamples of horrible American quality and other democracies on the planet improving their infrastructure in impressive ways.

Please post the correct link.

[Anonymous]

They don’t let the environmentalist wackos have 100 times the voice of everyone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is why Eisenhower was the best modern day President. The interstate highway system transformed America to a first world economy like no other innovation has.

After that a lot of Presidents like Clinton, Obama, Trump and Biden talked about it but nothing significant happened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Americans can't understand that they're often not #1 in doing things. They love to try to crap on countries Iike China by pointing out things like ghost cities they heard about or some road falling apart they googled, but look at American infrastructure from lead poisoning in Flint Michigan to the collapsed bridge in Minnesota that killed 13 people after standing for less than 40 years. Or the rail disaster in Ohio. Puhlease, Americans have zero room to criticize other countries about standards, OSHA, and quality, lol.

Go actually travel to Shenzhen and see it with your own eyes. It looks like a futuristic wonderworld that will warp your mind. It makes NYC look like it is behind by 100 years. Try actually riding Chinese bullet trains. They are very high quality and are now the fastest in the world. They blow away anything the US has.

It also isn't simply because the Chinese are communist. Go travel to South Korea or Japan. They have very high quality infrastructure and can build rail. The shinkansen has had zero deaths in over 60+ years of its entire existence and after billions of trips. Meanwhile, how many deaths and rail accidents have occurred in the US over those same number of years.

The reason the US can't do it is because we have too many lobbyists, we are too inefficient, we are awful at planning, too much corruptin, and much of our labor is massively overpaid, and we are simply a bunch of idiots running around trying to put square pegs into around holes. Americans are often terrible at doing things and aren often not #1. Americans need to wrap their brains around it. I mean look how long it took the US to do the big dig around Boston. Billions in overrun costs. And once it was completed it fell apart due to shoddy American construction.

It is easier to build new things than it is to renovate in place. That is true in China and here. The newer cities in the US (sometimes) have well built infrastructure. Big new projects here are impressive. Bridges or water systems that are 50-100 years old are less so.

Sounds like a bunch of copium. When other people in the world do things better, it is only because it must have been an easier project. Americans can't fathom that sorry, they don't always have the best engineers and are often very crappy at infrastructure development and planning. This is what impressive infrastructure really looks like:

That was all built to improve existing infrastructure. There's always a ton of excuses when we can't improve our infrastructure in the US. Maybe it's simply because we stink at it, we don't have the best engineering capabilities, and there's far too much red tape and corruption.

Tokyo is Japan, not China.

Potato, potahto.