senior is messing up and will probably fail this year

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thanks, all. I will ask the counselor.

He has a 3.6 GPA but just stopped doing work this year. He doesn't have an IEP or 504. He doesn't need a tutor; now that he's actually doing the work, he's getting decent grades. I just think it's too late for this quarter.

We rent and our lease is up in June. I don't think we will stay in the county and I wasn't sure whether summer school would work. I didn't know about OPTG - I will ask about that.

Thank you.

If he just stopped doing work, then you should remove and erase all privileges. You’re the parent, crack down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks, all. I will ask the counselor.

He has a 3.6 GPA but just stopped doing work this year. He doesn't have an IEP or 504. He doesn't need a tutor; now that he's actually doing the work, he's getting decent grades. I just think it's too late for this quarter.

We rent and our lease is up in June. I don't think we will stay in the county and I wasn't sure whether summer school would work. I didn't know about OPTG - I will ask about that.

Thank you.

If he just stopped doing work, then you should remove and erase all privileges. You’re the parent, crack down.

+1

Also, please reconsider your parenting practices. The question should not be how do “I dig my kid out.” Your kid dug this hole. He will either dig himself out or learn a very hard (and valuable) lesson that people who don’t work for something don’t get rewarded. It’s almost impossible (unless it’s like a AP class or something) for kids to fail in MCPS if they are doing the bare minimum. I’m pretty sure I would get fired if I had “work avoidance.” Same thing for school. Stop trying to save your kid. They are almost an adult and need to face the music.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks, all. I will ask the counselor.

He has a 3.6 GPA but just stopped doing work this year. He doesn't have an IEP or 504. He doesn't need a tutor; now that he's actually doing the work, he's getting decent grades. I just think it's too late for this quarter.

We rent and our lease is up in June. I don't think we will stay in the county and I wasn't sure whether summer school would work. I didn't know about OPTG - I will ask about that.

Thank you.

If he just stopped doing work, then you should remove and erase all privileges. You’re the parent, crack down.

+1

Also, please reconsider your parenting practices. The question should not be how do “I dig my kid out.” Your kid dug this hole. He will either dig himself out or learn a very hard (and valuable) lesson that people who don’t work for something don’t get rewarded. It’s almost impossible (unless it’s like a AP class or something) for kids to fail in MCPS if they are doing the bare minimum. I’m pretty sure I would get fired if I had “work avoidance.” Same thing for school. Stop trying to save your kid. They are almost an adult and need to face the music.

Spoken by someone who has not been there and done that. The kids needs saving until they get into college, that's the hard truth these days. I saved my kid so many times in high school - he had a really rough 4 years of it. Once he got into college, it was much smoother sailing and I didn't have to lift a finger. He'd matured and he wasn't as stressed out and sleep deprived, since he could roll out of bed and go to 9 am classes (instead of waking up at 6 and taking a long bus to school); and most of the coursework was in his desired major, topics he actually wanted to learn about.

OP, do your best for your kid. High school is hard, and he deserves the help. His brain is not mature yet. He will be able to save himself in the future, and he will remember kindly all the support you gave him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks, all. I will ask the counselor.

He has a 3.6 GPA but just stopped doing work this year. He doesn't have an IEP or 504. He doesn't need a tutor; now that he's actually doing the work, he's getting decent grades. I just think it's too late for this quarter.

We rent and our lease is up in June. I don't think we will stay in the county and I wasn't sure whether summer school would work. I didn't know about OPTG - I will ask about that.

Thank you.

Oh, it's the technology class requirement. If that matters.

I think the technology class is offered virtually in the spring so see if he can sign up for the first session of it again. Then he can graduate on time. It’s one night per week for a couple of hours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks, all. I will ask the counselor.

He has a 3.6 GPA but just stopped doing work this year. He doesn't have an IEP or 504. He doesn't need a tutor; now that he's actually doing the work, he's getting decent grades. I just think it's too late for this quarter.

We rent and our lease is up in June. I don't think we will stay in the county and I wasn't sure whether summer school would work. I didn't know about OPTG - I will ask about that.

Thank you.

If he just stopped doing work, then you should remove and erase all privileges. You’re the parent, crack down.

+1

Also, please reconsider your parenting practices. The question should not be how do “I dig my kid out.” Your kid dug this hole. He will either dig himself out or learn a very hard (and valuable) lesson that people who don’t work for something don’t get rewarded. It’s almost impossible (unless it’s like a AP class or something) for kids to fail in MCPS if they are doing the bare minimum. I’m pretty sure I would get fired if I had “work avoidance.” Same thing for school. Stop trying to save your kid. They are almost an adult and need to face the music.

Spoken by someone who has not been there and done that. The kids needs saving until they get into college, that's the hard truth these days. I saved my kid so many times in high school - he had a really rough 4 years of it. Once he got into college, it was much smoother sailing and I didn't have to lift a finger. He'd matured and he wasn't as stressed out and sleep deprived, since he could roll out of bed and go to 9 am classes (instead of waking up at 6 and taking a long bus to school); and most of the coursework was in his desired major, topics he actually wanted to learn about.

OP, do your best for your kid. High school is hard, and he deserves the help. His brain is not mature yet. He will be able to save himself in the future, and he will remember kindly all the support you gave him.

I have in fact been there done that.

The hard truth these days is parents are allowing kids to have less and less responsibility and ownership of their own choices. I’m also not sure what solution involves the parent “saving” the kid anyways… unless you are insinuating that the mom goes to classes for him and completes assignments.

At the end of the day, the student is the only one who can do the work to earn the credit. Kids will meet the expectation set for them. I agree with the other poster. Take away all privilege until they get the act together.

[Anonymous]

If he fails, both OPTG and summer school will be an option. OPTG will allow him to graduate in June- but he has to be motivated to complete the class asynchronously (and also attend 2 evening classes a week). Summer school finishes in the summer and there is a separate graduation ceremony in August for those students.

All this said, he can easily pull his grade up to a D if you impose consequences now. A D is not challenging.

[Anonymous]

OP make sure you google MCPS OPTG and e-learning. There are many easy ways to get the tech credit dealt with so he can graduate intime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks, all. I will ask the counselor.

He has a 3.6 GPA but just stopped doing work this year. He doesn't have an IEP or 504. He doesn't need a tutor; now that he's actually doing the work, he's getting decent grades. I just think it's too late for this quarter.

We rent and our lease is up in June. I don't think we will stay in the county and I wasn't sure whether summer school would work. I didn't know about OPTG - I will ask about that.

Thank you.

If he just stopped doing work, then you should remove and erase all privileges. You’re the parent, crack down.

+1

Also, please reconsider your parenting practices. The question should not be how do “I dig my kid out.” Your kid dug this hole. He will either dig himself out or learn a very hard (and valuable) lesson that people who don’t work for something don’t get rewarded. It’s almost impossible (unless it’s like a AP class or something) for kids to fail in MCPS if they are doing the bare minimum. I’m pretty sure I would get fired if I had “work avoidance.” Same thing for school. Stop trying to save your kid. They are almost an adult and need to face the music.

Spoken by someone who has not been there and done that. The kids needs saving until they get into college, that's the hard truth these days. I saved my kid so many times in high school - he had a really rough 4 years of it. Once he got into college, it was much smoother sailing and I didn't have to lift a finger. He'd matured and he wasn't as stressed out and sleep deprived, since he could roll out of bed and go to 9 am classes (instead of waking up at 6 and taking a long bus to school); and most of the coursework was in his desired major, topics he actually wanted to learn about.

OP, do your best for your kid. High school is hard, and he deserves the help. His brain is not mature yet. He will be able to save himself in the future, and he will remember kindly all the support you gave him.

Infantilizing young adults is not helping them. He is old enough to know right from wrong. He’s doing what he thinks he can get away with. Parents have to make him feel the consequences of his choices. Not shield him from them.

Also, I have no idea what you’re talking about with the college scenario you sketched out.

Many students have to deal with 8 am classes and most college students have to do some form of general Ed courses their freshmen and sophomore years. They don’t get to take classes focused on their major until junior year.

[Anonymous]

Still a few weeks left, see if they can pull a D, and tell them that next semester has to be better. Sit down with the teacher and make a plan. I've had students on a modified schedule to make up work with their and their parent's signature with strict due dates for missing work. Trust me no teacher wants a student to not graduate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks, all. I will ask the counselor.

He has a 3.6 GPA but just stopped doing work this year. He doesn't have an IEP or 504. He doesn't need a tutor; now that he's actually doing the work, he's getting decent grades. I just think it's too late for this quarter.

We rent and our lease is up in June. I don't think we will stay in the county and I wasn't sure whether summer school would work. I didn't know about OPTG - I will ask about that.

Thank you.

If he just stopped doing work, then you should remove and erase all privileges. You’re the parent, crack down.

+1

Also, please reconsider your parenting practices. The question should not be how do “I dig my kid out.” Your kid dug this hole. He will either dig himself out or learn a very hard (and valuable) lesson that people who don’t work for something don’t get rewarded. It’s almost impossible (unless it’s like a AP class or something) for kids to fail in MCPS if they are doing the bare minimum. I’m pretty sure I would get fired if I had “work avoidance.” Same thing for school. Stop trying to save your kid. They are almost an adult and need to face the music.

Spoken by someone who has not been there and done that. The kids needs saving until they get into college, that's the hard truth these days. I saved my kid so many times in high school - he had a really rough 4 years of it. Once he got into college, it was much smoother sailing and I didn't have to lift a finger. He'd matured and he wasn't as stressed out and sleep deprived, since he could roll out of bed and go to 9 am classes (instead of waking up at 6 and taking a long bus to school); and most of the coursework was in his desired major, topics he actually wanted to learn about.

OP, do your best for your kid. High school is hard, and he deserves the help. His brain is not mature yet. He will be able to save himself in the future, and he will remember kindly all the support you gave him.

Infantilizing young adults is not helping them. He is old enough to know right from wrong. He’s doing what he thinks he can get away with. Parents have to make him feel the consequences of his choices. Not shield him from them.

Also, I have no idea what you’re talking about with the college scenario you sketched out.

Many students have to deal with 8 am classes and most college students have to do some form of general Ed courses their freshmen and sophomore years. They don’t get to take classes focused on their major until junior year.

“They don’t get to take classes focused on their major until junior year.“

Not true

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks, all. I will ask the counselor.

He has a 3.6 GPA but just stopped doing work this year. He doesn't have an IEP or 504. He doesn't need a tutor; now that he's actually doing the work, he's getting decent grades. I just think it's too late for this quarter.

We rent and our lease is up in June. I don't think we will stay in the county and I wasn't sure whether summer school would work. I didn't know about OPTG - I will ask about that.

Thank you.

If he just stopped doing work, then you should remove and erase all privileges. You’re the parent, crack down.

+1

Also, please reconsider your parenting practices. The question should not be how do “I dig my kid out.” Your kid dug this hole. He will either dig himself out or learn a very hard (and valuable) lesson that people who don’t work for something don’t get rewarded. It’s almost impossible (unless it’s like a AP class or something) for kids to fail in MCPS if they are doing the bare minimum. I’m pretty sure I would get fired if I had “work avoidance.” Same thing for school. Stop trying to save your kid. They are almost an adult and need to face the music.

Spoken by someone who has not been there and done that. The kids needs saving until they get into college, that's the hard truth these days. I saved my kid so many times in high school - he had a really rough 4 years of it. Once he got into college, it was much smoother sailing and I didn't have to lift a finger. He'd matured and he wasn't as stressed out and sleep deprived, since he could roll out of bed and go to 9 am classes (instead of waking up at 6 and taking a long bus to school); and most of the coursework was in his desired major, topics he actually wanted to learn about.

OP, do your best for your kid. High school is hard, and he deserves the help. His brain is not mature yet. He will be able to save himself in the future, and he will remember kindly all the support you gave him.

Infantilizing young adults is not helping them. He is old enough to know right from wrong. He’s doing what he thinks he can get away with. Parents have to make him feel the consequences of his choices. Not shield him from them.

Also, I have no idea what you’re talking about with the college scenario you sketched out.

Many students have to deal with 8 am classes and most college students have to do some form of general Ed courses their freshmen and sophomore years. They don’t get to take classes focused on their major until junior year.

“They don’t get to take classes focused on their major until junior year.“

Not true

Mostly true. Look up any course plan for a four year degree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Still a few weeks left, see if they can pull a D, and tell them that next semester has to be better. Sit down with the teacher and make a plan. I've had students on a modified schedule to make up work with their and their parent's signature with strict due dates for missing work. Trust me no teacher wants a student to not graduate.

+1
OP - ignore the ridiculous college chatter and focus on the issue at hand. The first goal is for your kid to earn a D this quarter so he passes. There’s roughly 3 weeks left to keep on top of current work and make up enough work to get there, but there needs to be a firm plan.

Email the teacher and cc both the counselor and his grade level administrator. Acknowledge the problem, acknowledge your students’ fault, and ask for specifics about remaining assignments and makeup work so he can pass. Also ask if there is lunch help or a homework club where he can get support to finish the work.

If he doesn’t pass (for whatever reason), there is an option called credit recovery for students that went DE. It’s an online version of 2nd qtr, usually monitored by a teacher in the school, with enough work to get the grade up to a D for the semester. Have his 2nd semester schedule adjusted so he passes the semester B of the technology class and also has a support class for the credit recovery class (resource/study skills).

The grade level admin has the goal of getting as many kids across the graduation stage as possible, so they end up tracking and triaging all the kids in danger of not meeting requirements ( credits, testing, SSL) and trying to resolve the issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just wondering if anyone else has faced this and was able to successfully dig their kid out.

My school-hating child has everything he needs to graduate, except for one required class. He got a D last quarter in it and will likely fail this quarter. So that means he's done for the year, doesn't it? Is there anything else we can do to try to save this? Any way to double up in the spring, maybe?

My concern is he has school avoidance issues already, and if he knows he's killed his ability to graduate in May, he will just quit.

The teacher, understandably, doesn't want to help. This is 100% on my kid. The counselor doesn't seem concerned.

If he passed last quarter with a C, he can earn a D if he fails this quarter.

If not, he takes the Semester A course simultaneously with Semester B. He’ll need to drop an elective. Tell the counselor and CC the counseling head.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How did he fail without you knowing? If he has documented school avoidance issues, shouldn't he be on an IEP or 504 Plan, which would mean you'd be very involved in all of his school actions?

Also, what's the plan for him post-graduation? I hope it's not college, cause he's clearly not interested or invested if he's failing high school.

I hope you don't work for mcps with that level of ignorance.
Otherwise intelligent enough children who avoid school usually have a social deficit, mental health disease or other issue . It's not about their academic "interest or investment level"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks, all. I will ask the counselor.

He has a 3.6 GPA but just stopped doing work this year. He doesn't have an IEP or 504. He doesn't need a tutor; now that he's actually doing the work, he's getting decent grades. I just think it's too late for this quarter.

We rent and our lease is up in June. I don't think we will stay in the county and I wasn't sure whether summer school would work. I didn't know about OPTG - I will ask about that.

Thank you.

If he just stopped doing work, then you should remove and erase all privileges. You’re the parent, crack down.

+1

Also, please reconsider your parenting practices. The question should not be how do “I dig my kid out.” Your kid dug this hole. He will either dig himself out or learn a very hard (and valuable) lesson that people who don’t work for something don’t get rewarded. It’s almost impossible (unless it’s like a AP class or something) for kids to fail in MCPS if they are doing the bare minimum. I’m pretty sure I would get fired if I had “work avoidance.” Same thing for school. Stop trying to save your kid. They are almost an adult and need to face the music.

Spoken by someone who has not been there and done that. The kids needs saving until they get into college, that's the hard truth these days. I saved my kid so many times in high school - he had a really rough 4 years of it. Once he got into college, it was much smoother sailing and I didn't have to lift a finger. He'd matured and he wasn't as stressed out and sleep deprived, since he could roll out of bed and go to 9 am classes (instead of waking up at 6 and taking a long bus to school); and most of the coursework was in his desired major, topics he actually wanted to learn about.

OP, do your best for your kid. High school is hard, and he deserves the help. His brain is not mature yet. He will be able to save himself in the future, and he will remember kindly all the support you gave him.

Infantilizing young adults is not helping them. He is old enough to know right from wrong. He’s doing what he thinks he can get away with. Parents have to make him feel the consequences of his choices. Not shield him from them.

Also, I have no idea what you’re talking about with the college scenario you sketched out.

Many students have to deal with 8 am classes and most college students have to do some form of general Ed courses their freshmen and sophomore years. They don’t get to take classes focused on their major until junior year.

The current generation of kids in high school lived through some of the worst decisions adults in their lives could have made, especially covid- but not limited to covid. I don't see how helping a kid make it through graduation is infantilizing them. Adults support their partners to make it through hard times. I can't imagine allowing a struggling child to fail is anything less than caveman-think.